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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
May 01 2013 18:28 GMT
#601
On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote:
I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor.

Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 18:28:50
May 01 2013 18:28 GMT
#602
On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu


It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win.


what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol

not with 13 other koreans playing in AM


How do you actually judge that?

Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one?

Well, the caliber of Koreans residing in EU is not the sickest, but I do think that the strongest foreigners are better than the best of NA, who are getting stomped. I think they are close, but NA seems hard. Koreans will also struggle with lag if they aren't in EU.

WCS KR all the way. kr
The Bomber boy
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
May 01 2013 18:28 GMT
#603
On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu


It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win.


what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol


HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close.


HerO has won against many top EU players over the years, but he also lost to quite a few of them in this long time period and got 2-0ed last weekend by Kas as well. Let´s just agree that it is harder to reach ro16 in EU than in NA, winning the championship is probably harder in NA.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
May 01 2013 18:28 GMT
#604
On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu


It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win.


what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol


HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close.

Did you miss Kas stomping HerO at Dreamhack ? Or grubby and huk beating Polt ?

HerO and Koreans are obviously ahead but it's not like they're untouchable...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 01 2013 18:28 GMT
#605
On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu


It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win.


what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol

not with 13 other koreans playing in AM


How do you actually judge that?

Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one?

I don't get what you're asking. Are you saying it's easiesr for the Koreans because they all advance because they get to play NA players?
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DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
May 01 2013 18:29 GMT
#606
i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 01 2013 18:29 GMT
#607
On May 02 2013 03:28 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu


It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win.


what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol


HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close.


You got to be kidding? we saw how well Polt and 2nd tier Koreans did in Dreamhack. You bring those guys. I bring
MVP, Stephano, MMA, Lucifron, Nerchio, Naniwa, Sase, Forgg

gl hf

IIRC, Polt was ill. I think your bias is showing through. It's not even close.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
May 01 2013 18:29 GMT
#608
On May 02 2013 03:17 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:15 Huragius wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:13 TheDwf wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:11 Huragius wrote:
Why didn't lift his Barracks/Factories/Starport ? That was so sloppy.

Yes, that would have made so much difference...

It wouldn't. But when you base race, you always want to get as much as advantage as you can as a Terran. And letting half of his production facilities to die for absolutely nothing is really sloppy for a player of this caliber.

Or he had already lost and knew it, so saving one extra fact and a few rax wouldn't have mattered at all.

So why not leave immediately after he knew that ? Some logical issues in your arguments.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
May 01 2013 18:29 GMT
#609
On May 02 2013 03:29 DOUDOU wrote:
i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out

Ditto.
The Bomber boy
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 18:30:28
May 01 2013 18:29 GMT
#610
On May 02 2013 03:29 DOUDOU wrote:
i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out

yes I could agree with that. a large number of the AM ro32 groups seem like formalities rather than a round of the tournament ^^ Ro16 is where the real games start
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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
May 01 2013 18:29 GMT
#611
On May 02 2013 03:29 DOUDOU wrote:
i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out

Yeap.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
May 01 2013 18:30 GMT
#612
On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote:
Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP..


Of course it's live !

No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG).


Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast!
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
May 01 2013 18:30 GMT
#613
Oh God Siw supply blocks TT
The Bomber boy
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 01 2013 18:31 GMT
#614
On May 02 2013 03:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu


It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win.


what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol

not with 13 other koreans playing in AM


How do you actually judge that?

Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one?

I don't get what you're asking. Are you saying it's easiesr for the Koreans because they all advance because they get to play NA players?


Yeah.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
May 01 2013 18:31 GMT
#615
Does anyone know why the Russian stream misses delay again?
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 01 2013 18:31 GMT
#616
On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote:
Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP..


Of course it's live !

No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG).


Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast!


Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ?
Terran & Potato Salad.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 18:32:55
May 01 2013 18:32 GMT
#617
On May 02 2013 03:31 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote:
can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go !
its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu


It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win.


what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol

not with 13 other koreans playing in AM


How do you actually judge that?

Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one?

I don't get what you're asking. Are you saying it's easiesr for the Koreans because they all advance because they get to play NA players?


Yeah.

I would say it's easier to advance earlier but harder to win
On May 02 2013 03:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote:
Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP..


Of course it's live !

No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG).


Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast!


Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ?

no it's live
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namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
May 01 2013 18:32 GMT
#618
On May 02 2013 03:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote:
Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP..


Of course it's live !

No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG).


Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast!


Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ?


MLG qualifiers were at least, I haven't seen any of the actual wcs ro32 stuff as it's 5 am for me.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 01 2013 18:32 GMT
#619
On May 02 2013 03:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:
On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote:
Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP..


Of course it's live !

No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG).


Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast!


Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ?

No, I believe all regions are playing all games live.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 01 2013 18:33 GMT
#620
On May 02 2013 03:31 grs wrote:
Does anyone know why the Russian stream misses delay again?


They are Russians. That's pretty much it.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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