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On May 02 2013 03:24 AgentW wrote: I just realized that Mvp's next series is probably going to be starting at about 4:30 AM local time now. It really stings for him that he dropped that one. Fatigue has to be a factor. Hopefully MVP gets a quick power nap in between.
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On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote: can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go ! its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol not with 13 other koreans playing in AM How do you actually judge that? Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one? Well, the caliber of Koreans residing in EU is not the sickest, but I do think that the strongest foreigners are better than the best of NA, who are getting stomped. I think they are close, but NA seems hard. Koreans will also struggle with lag if they aren't in EU.
WCS KR all the way.
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On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote: can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go ! its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close.
HerO has won against many top EU players over the years, but he also lost to quite a few of them in this long time period and got 2-0ed last weekend by Kas as well. Let´s just agree that it is harder to reach ro16 in EU than in NA, winning the championship is probably harder in NA.
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On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote: can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go ! its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close. Did you miss Kas stomping HerO at Dreamhack ? Or grubby and huk beating Polt ?
HerO and Koreans are obviously ahead but it's not like they're untouchable...
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On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote: can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go ! its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol not with 13 other koreans playing in AM How do you actually judge that? Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one? I don't get what you're asking. Are you saying it's easiesr for the Koreans because they all advance because they get to play NA players?
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i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out
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On May 02 2013 03:28 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:24 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote: can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go ! its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol HerO alone has stomped all the best EU players twice and then you have Polt, Violet, Oz, Alive, Ryung, NesTea..., it's not even close. You got to be kidding? we saw how well Polt and 2nd tier Koreans did in Dreamhack. You bring those guys. I bring MVP, Stephano, MMA, Lucifron, Nerchio, Naniwa, Sase, Forgg gl hf IIRC, Polt was ill. I think your bias is showing through. It's not even close.
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On May 02 2013 03:17 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:15 Huragius wrote:On May 02 2013 03:13 TheDwf wrote:On May 02 2013 03:11 Huragius wrote: Why didn't lift his Barracks/Factories/Starport ? That was so sloppy. Yes, that would have made so much difference... It wouldn't. But when you base race, you always want to get as much as advantage as you can as a Terran. And letting half of his production facilities to die for absolutely nothing is really sloppy for a player of this caliber. Or he had already lost and knew it, so saving one extra fact and a few rax wouldn't have mattered at all. So why not leave immediately after he knew that ? Some logical issues in your arguments.
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On May 02 2013 03:29 DOUDOU wrote: i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out Ditto.
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On May 02 2013 03:29 DOUDOU wrote: i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out yes I could agree with that. a large number of the AM ro32 groups seem like formalities rather than a round of the tournament ^^ Ro16 is where the real games start
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On May 02 2013 03:29 DOUDOU wrote: i'd say WCSEU RO32 > WCSAM RO32 (average), but WCSAM might comes ahead in ro16 due to non koreans being out Yeap.
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On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote: Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP.. Of course it's live ! No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG).
Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast!
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Oh God Siw supply blocks TT
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On May 02 2013 03:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote: can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go ! its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol not with 13 other koreans playing in AM How do you actually judge that? Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one? I don't get what you're asking. Are you saying it's easiesr for the Koreans because they all advance because they get to play NA players?
Yeah.
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Does anyone know why the Russian stream misses delay again?
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On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote: Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP.. Of course it's live ! No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG). Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast!
Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ?
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On May 02 2013 03:31 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:25 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On May 02 2013 03:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:On May 02 2013 03:21 jalstar wrote:On May 02 2013 03:19 CoR wrote: can people stop argue "meh lag" ?? they knew it they accepted it ... MC is going to germany for WCS EU as far as i heared so what hindered the rest of them ? why they choose EU ? easy money ? well here you go ! its just dima was great and won but NO people have to find WHY he won ... fuck that hes gosu It is by far the easiest of the 3 WCS tournaments but not so easy that you can play with that amount of lag and expect to win. what!? eu is harder than am for sure lol not with 13 other koreans playing in AM How do you actually judge that? Like, assuming all Koreans advance in AM, but all Koreans fail in EU (I know, fOrGG too stronk, but still), what metric do you use to judge the harder one? I don't get what you're asking. Are you saying it's easiesr for the Koreans because they all advance because they get to play NA players? Yeah. I would say it's easier to advance earlier but harder to win
On May 02 2013 03:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote: Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP.. Of course it's live ! No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG). Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast! Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ? no it's live
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On May 02 2013 03:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote: Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP.. Of course it's live ! No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG). Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast! Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ?
MLG qualifiers were at least, I haven't seen any of the actual wcs ro32 stuff as it's 5 am for me.
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On May 02 2013 03:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 03:30 namste wrote:On May 02 2013 03:27 Bermuda wrote:On May 02 2013 03:24 geokilla wrote: Wait these games are live? Oh man it's brutal for MVP.. Of course it's live ! No more cast from replay please (I am looking at you MLG). Well I'd rather have New York skyline in the background than live cast! Joke aside, is it really casted from replays ? No, I believe all regions are playing all games live.
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On May 02 2013 03:31 grs wrote: Does anyone know why the Russian stream misses delay again?
They are Russians. That's pretty much it.
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