Also funny how Mvp with broken wrists was able to roll parting with ease, and the best bw player in the world just went 0-2.
This inconsistency is a trend I've noticed in SC2, is likely because of SC2's lower skill ceiling in my opinion.
I think this is why players can beat people like Flash and Jaedong, because macro is so easy in SC2 that it's not a factor and then it comes down to coin-flips, scouting, and mind games.
This simply isn't true. People were saying it back in 2010 and it was somewhat true then but it's just complete bullshit at this point. We consistently see the superior players tear other high tier contenders apart by straight up outplaying them. Even in BW players would have bad days and upsets would happen, don't even try and rewrite history by pretending that wasn't the case.
Then cite some consistency. Even the our legendary SC2 players aren't exactly consistent. Hell, Nestea has lost to a lot of foreigners and he's a 3 time GSL winner.
On May 02 2013 21:28 BakedButters wrote: All you Flash fanboys saying Innovation only beat Flash with that cheese. Lol. Flash needs to stop being a robot and be so predictable
Well... he did win with cheese.
In one game. He lost with cheese in another game. He fucked him up in a macro game right after.
Also funny how Mvp with broken wrists was able to roll parting with ease, and the best bw player in the world just went 0-2.
This inconsistency is a trend I've noticed in SC2, is likely because of SC2's lower skill ceiling in my opinion.
I think this is why players can beat people like Flash and Jaedong, because macro is so easy in SC2 that it's not a factor and then it comes down to coin-flips, scouting, and mind games.
Orrrrrrr maybe Flash got outplayed?
Flash did not get outplayed in any of these games IMO. Protoss is much better in the late game than Terran, which is why Parting won game 1. In game 2, he did an all-in.
Flash lost game 1 due to his horrible ghostcontrol, nothing about imbalance.
Flash was ahead the whole game, killed 3rd of toss, took 4th behind it traded armies extremely efficient, had bigger army in the end, loses because storms & feedbacks kill and emp only damage, so parting only had to a-move and storm: the ground army of flash melts away, air army gets hurt and finished by tempests, stalkers etc. Maybe he chose wrong unit composition, but losing several ghosts to feedback while also killing los of HTs with Snipes wasn't alone the game changer. I didn't say "imba" but I am sick of seeing terrans to struggle to kill a protoss with storms ready and then the toss can still tech up to just have a superiour a-move (+ Storms) army.
On May 02 2013 21:24 BLinD-RawR wrote: I knew it was a long shot to expect Flash to win an individual league again after the last 2 OSLs.
Hes still a godly player but I feel he's regressing a little bit very slowly. Like...Roger Federer declining. He's still top 5 and lots of #2-#4 finishes but not quite that #1 with the best of the best fielded
you know, after Jin Air OSL I knew that TBLS were done for and the inevitable bogus zero soulkey shy(sos) was going to happen.
SC2 just delayed that a bit.
Bogus? Seriously? I remember a few people on the bandwagon for him but I would have never figured he'd come this far. Still waiting on Mini, and Skyhigh on their break throughs In all honesty, I still think Flash has enough in the tank for at least one WCS/GSL/OSL title, and at most, a 2nd.
Also funny how Mvp with broken wrists was able to roll parting with ease, and the best bw player in the world just went 0-2.
This inconsistency is a trend I've noticed in SC2, is likely because of SC2's lower skill ceiling in my opinion.
I think this is why players can beat people like Flash and Jaedong, because macro is so easy in SC2 that it's not a factor and then it comes down to coin-flips, scouting, and mind games.
Orrrrrrr maybe Flash got outplayed?
Flash did not get outplayed in any of these games IMO. Protoss is much better in the late game than Terran, which is why Parting won game 1. In game 2, he did an all-in.
It's also important to note that the late-game army for terran vs protoss hasn't been figured out. Is it Battlecruisers/vikings/ravens/ghosts, do you need nukes? When is the right time to do the transition? Do you just need to hold and drop behind it? The Protoss endball has been figured out, the terran one not rly. At least that's how I feel.
On May 02 2013 21:24 BLinD-RawR wrote: I knew it was a long shot to expect Flash to win an individual league again after the last 2 OSLs.
Hes still a godly player but I feel he's regressing a little bit very slowly. Like...Roger Federer declining. He's still top 5 and lots of #2-#4 finishes but not quite that #1 with the best of the best fielded
you know, after Jin Air OSL I knew that TBLS were done for and the inevitable bogus zero soulkey shy(sos) was going to happen.
SC2 just delayed that a bit.
Not Jangbi or Fantasy? D:
no the players I mentioned are the next generation.
Yes Ryung won the first series, but lost the second series in Ro32 so Mvp advanced. HerO beaet Mvp in the winners match in ro16, but got absolutely demolished by Squirtle
Also funny how Mvp with broken wrists was able to roll parting with ease, and the best bw player in the world just went 0-2.
This inconsistency is a trend I've noticed in SC2, is likely because of SC2's lower skill ceiling in my opinion.
I think this is why players can beat people like Flash and Jaedong, because macro is so easy in SC2 that it's not a factor and then it comes down to coin-flips, scouting, and mind games.
Orrrrrrr maybe Flash got outplayed?
Flash did not get outplayed in any of these games IMO. Protoss is much better in the late game than Terran, which is why Parting won game 1. In game 2, he did an all-in.
Flash lost game 1 due to his horrible ghostcontrol, nothing about imbalance.
Actually because feedback > snipe.
But that wasn't the deciding factor. Protoss having a deathball was.
Yes, it was the deciding factor. He could have pushed easily for the win midgame if he had not lost so many units unnecessary. And btw EMP > feedback
And his lategamecomp was shit, why no raven? Ravens are the best lategameunit in TvP and he did not build a single one...
EPT
I always let hope interfere with my judgements.
