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Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 26 2013 22:02 GMT
#5861
On April 27 2013 06:54 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:53 Absentia wrote:
I can't imagine that Polt isn't partially regretting his decision to move to America. I'm not aware of his reasons for doing so, but it doesn't seem to have done anything beneficial for his SC2 career. He can't even practice on the Korean server properly because of lag and must now ladder against players who, a couple of months ago, were significantly below his skill level.
Disappointing to see such a talented player go out of a tournament like this so early.


Give Polt a break it can happen for everyone. Starcraft 2 is not black and white alot of shit can happen.

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:51 arkedos wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:50 Instigata wrote:
Is this part of the Euro WCS or something? Where are all the good Koreans like Life, Rain, DRG, Innovation, Parting etc



no but it gives points towards WCS, but it is not a direct WCS tournament. And there are plenty of good koreans.


The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,


Yes we know you in pain Aeroplaneoverthesea when a foreigner beats a Korean. but no need to shit over there achievement or call the Koreans in this tournament bad. Btw worst day ever for you Aeroplaneoverthesea ?


None of my favourite players are playing in this tournament so I don't really give a shit who wins so no it's neither a good or bad day for me in Sc2 fan terms.
Killcani
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden448 Posts
April 26 2013 22:03 GMT
#5862
On April 27 2013 07:00 Whatson wrote:
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On April 27 2013 06:59 pmp10 wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:59 Yhamm wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:57 Bagi wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:57 falafelnr1 wrote:
SortOf 2 - Center 0 !!!

Wow, does that mean SortOf advances? KR training paying off!

yeah Puzzle and SortOf advance. Strelok and Center eliminated. Officially down to 2 Terrans

and so many people were saying that Terran was OP =/

Wait until WCS EU starts back again.

Yeah, I'd really pause before saying that X race is suddenly OP because of one tournament. I'm sure that even in the patchzerg age there were a few tournaments that weren't won by zerg

We are talking about the race distrubution in ro16 so no there wasnt a major tournament with 2 zergs in ro16 after patchzerg.
Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
April 26 2013 22:03 GMT
#5863
On April 27 2013 07:01 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 07:00 Tidus Mino wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:59 falafelnr1 wrote:
Has a single game of SortOf been streamed yet? Such a beastly run and no games showed. LOL


From what I can tell he's still in game 2, where are you getting this info :s

Binarybeast, for example


Well that's wrong I am afraid he is 1-0 up and still playing game 2
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 26 2013 22:03 GMT
#5864
On April 27 2013 07:01 LighT. wrote:
Am I the only one noticing that the terrans are being completely dominated in the tournament?
Kas and Gumiho are the only ones in Ro16. and gumiho being in ro16 is pretty much a given.

yes, you are pretty much the only one. well done, boy. i am proud of you
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 26 2013 22:03 GMT
#5865
On April 27 2013 06:53 Killcani wrote:
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On April 27 2013 06:51 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:48 Killcani wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:45 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:43 Snowbear wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:40 Integra wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:36 Coolhwip wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:32 Snowbear wrote:
2 terrans going trough, but I don't have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the massive whine on terran the past month (and especially from idra, ret and stephano). Why?

Probably cause they are doing good in every other tournament except this one :D

The problem is not the balance, it's the way the gameflow tends to go.
Terran is just doing hellbat drops 99% of the time, even in TvT, and it makes for boring games. It's kinda Protoss vs Zerg during WOL, either protoss won with a 1-2 base immortal allin or Zerg won the late game with broodlords/infestors. Even if the MU is balanced, as in each opponent had 50% chance to win, it's still god damn boring to watch.


Yeah, and meanwhile threads about the widow mine come up and whine about the medivacs is everywhere.


Come on when terrans started to do well at the very start of HotS, we told whiners to suck it for ages because a few games aren't proof of anything.

These are a few games too. We can't draw anymore conclusions from them as we could at start of HotS.

what tournaments did terran dominate at the start of hots?


We had terrans winning a lot of matches, especially before the hellbat medivac first patch, also we had terran progamers saying terran is too strong... I was in those LR threads, telling people it was too early to criticize terran since we only had a few games played, maybe don't try to rewrite history when I was a part of it?

I don't remember the terran dominance just alot of whine and im pretty sure terran where not winning abnormly much at all. Please prove me wrong.


I remember the last time when Terran pros said they are a bit to strong in WoL into the question what about Infestors. Infestors are no problem I just split and win. And then Zergs were able to get them and used them and then Zergs learned to keep them alive. Don't give alot on balance comments in Interviews since then.

Zerg minds work faster then in WoL, so they'll be back dominating in half a year. Buffs to them will only speed this up. Only unknown factor are maps. Could be wrong though HotS is more surprising then Wings ever was for me.
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
April 26 2013 22:04 GMT
#5866
On April 27 2013 07:02 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:54 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:53 Absentia wrote:
I can't imagine that Polt isn't partially regretting his decision to move to America. I'm not aware of his reasons for doing so, but it doesn't seem to have done anything beneficial for his SC2 career. He can't even practice on the Korean server properly because of lag and must now ladder against players who, a couple of months ago, were significantly below his skill level.
Disappointing to see such a talented player go out of a tournament like this so early.


Give Polt a break it can happen for everyone. Starcraft 2 is not black and white alot of shit can happen.

On April 27 2013 06:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:51 arkedos wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:50 Instigata wrote:
Is this part of the Euro WCS or something? Where are all the good Koreans like Life, Rain, DRG, Innovation, Parting etc



no but it gives points towards WCS, but it is not a direct WCS tournament. And there are plenty of good koreans.


The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,


Yes we know you in pain Aeroplaneoverthesea when a foreigner beats a Korean. but no need to shit over there achievement or call the Koreans in this tournament bad. Btw worst day ever for you Aeroplaneoverthesea ?


None of my favourite players are playing in this tournament so I don't really give a shit who wins so no it's neither a good or bad day for me in Sc2 fan terms.


So why are you spamming this thread then if you dont care?
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 22:06:43
April 26 2013 22:04 GMT
#5867
In HOTS, mobile units are just seem way to strong, in all match ups.

Tanks, Thors, Hydralisks ect, immobile units that are slow need buffs, or the maps need to be smaller.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 26 2013 22:04 GMT
#5868
On April 27 2013 07:02 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:59 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:55 freerolll wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:51 arkedos wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:50 Instigata wrote:
Is this part of the Euro WCS or something? Where are all the good Koreans like Life, Rain, DRG, Innovation, Parting etc



no but it gives points towards WCS, but it is not a direct WCS tournament. And there are plenty of good koreans.


The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,




Meaning a good bunch of european players are arround maybe Code A lvl in korea wich is in a way a progression and not the huge gap most peope talk about


Foreigners got absolutely raped at MLG, completely decimated.

They can't be both Code A level and completely outclassed.

The majority of the best foreigners do not attend MLGs. In fact, of the 9 foreigners advancing to Ro16, only 3 of them attended the last MLG.

replace the 3 foreigners that did attend the MLG with any of the ones that didnt
The results wont be any different.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 26 2013 22:04 GMT
#5869
Awesome game between Kas and Hapy.
Off-season = best season
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 22:04:48
April 26 2013 22:04 GMT
#5870
Waiting for "zerg op hurr" retards.

Btw, what's up with Zenio vs Hero?
Hello
AwesomeFossum
Profile Joined February 2013
United States312 Posts
April 26 2013 22:04 GMT
#5871
On April 27 2013 07:00 sitromit wrote:
So when are they going to announce the bracket? Tomorrow?


Not just yet. Still 2 games going in Group B.
"The greatest athletes of all time... Michael Jordan, Roger Federer, and SlayerSBoxer." - Artosis
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 26 2013 22:04 GMT
#5872
On April 27 2013 07:03 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 07:01 LighT. wrote:
Am I the only one noticing that the terrans are being completely dominated in the tournament?
Kas and Gumiho are the only ones in Ro16. and gumiho being in ro16 is pretty much a given.

yes, you are pretty much the only one. well done, boy. i am proud of you

:D! Can I have cookie?
xHQx
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation601 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 22:05:23
April 26 2013 22:05 GMT
#5873
dat tvt is so tvt awesome ending of the day
are you evolving?
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 22:05:57
April 26 2013 22:05 GMT
#5874
On April 27 2013 07:02 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:59 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:55 freerolll wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:51 arkedos wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:50 Instigata wrote:
Is this part of the Euro WCS or something? Where are all the good Koreans like Life, Rain, DRG, Innovation, Parting etc



no but it gives points towards WCS, but it is not a direct WCS tournament. And there are plenty of good koreans.


The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,




Meaning a good bunch of european players are arround maybe Code A lvl in korea wich is in a way a progression and not the huge gap most peope talk about


Foreigners got absolutely raped at MLG, completely decimated.

They can't be both Code A level and completely outclassed.

The majority of the best foreigners do not attend MLGs. In fact, of the 9 foreigners advancing to Ro16, only 3 of them attended the last MLG.


Stephano, Sase, Ret, Huk and Sen aren't top foreigners?

And are you suggesting that Naniwa, Lucifron or any other foreigners in Dreamhack atm wouldn't have been destroyed at that MLG because you'd be wrong if you were?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 26 2013 22:05 GMT
#5875
On April 27 2013 07:04 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 07:03 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:01 LighT. wrote:
Am I the only one noticing that the terrans are being completely dominated in the tournament?
Kas and Gumiho are the only ones in Ro16. and gumiho being in ro16 is pretty much a given.

yes, you are pretty much the only one. well done, boy. i am proud of you

:D! Can I have cookie?

sure, go ahead. grab one or two!
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 22:05:48
April 26 2013 22:05 GMT
#5876
MC should retire. :p
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
April 26 2013 22:05 GMT
#5877
There were less Terrans in this tournament compared to P and Z. No one mentioning this.
Red and yellow are all I see
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
April 26 2013 22:06 GMT
#5878
Are they still playing?
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
April 26 2013 22:06 GMT
#5879
Do they have to wait for Happy/Kas to end before playing HerO vs Zenio?
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
April 26 2013 22:06 GMT
#5880
On April 27 2013 06:59 xyzz wrote:
lol @ the europeans and americans trying to downplay the achievements of other euros and americans in this tournament. try to be proud of your own guys for once. the achievement isn't that naniwa and stephano & co went further than mc & polt & hero & forgg, it's that those koreans didn't even make the 2nd day of the tournament. they got outclassed.


Lol @ people who are so desperate for white people to win in tournaments. In what way are any of them 'my guys' because we share the same ethnicity? I'm supposed to root for people who live thousands of miles away from me that I've never seen in my life? And your two achievements are literally the same exact thing, except one focuses on the people who won and the other focuses on the people who lost. Sorry I don't go around high fiving people on a message board and act like it's some personal accomplishment for "my team" because Europeans beat some Koreans.
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