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Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
April 26 2013 21:53 GMT
#5801
I can't imagine that Polt isn't partially regretting his decision to move to America. I'm not aware of his reasons for doing so, but it doesn't seem to have done anything beneficial for his SC2 career. He can't even practice on the Korean server properly because of lag and must now ladder against players who, a couple of months ago, were significantly below his skill level.
Disappointing to see such a talented player go out of a tournament like this so early.
Killcani
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden448 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 21:54:11
April 26 2013 21:53 GMT
#5802
On April 27 2013 06:51 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:48 Killcani wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:45 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:43 Snowbear wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:40 Integra wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:36 Coolhwip wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:32 Snowbear wrote:
2 terrans going trough, but I don't have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the massive whine on terran the past month (and especially from idra, ret and stephano). Why?

Probably cause they are doing good in every other tournament except this one :D

The problem is not the balance, it's the way the gameflow tends to go.
Terran is just doing hellbat drops 99% of the time, even in TvT, and it makes for boring games. It's kinda Protoss vs Zerg during WOL, either protoss won with a 1-2 base immortal allin or Zerg won the late game with broodlords/infestors. Even if the MU is balanced, as in each opponent had 50% chance to win, it's still god damn boring to watch.


Yeah, and meanwhile threads about the widow mine come up and whine about the medivacs is everywhere.


Come on when terrans started to do well at the very start of HotS, we told whiners to suck it for ages because a few games aren't proof of anything.

These are a few games too. We can't draw anymore conclusions from them as we could at start of HotS.

what tournaments did terran dominate at the start of hots?


We had terrans winning a lot of matches, especially before the hellbat medivac first patch, also we had terran progamers saying terran is too strong... I was in those LR threads, telling people it was too early to criticize terran since we only had a few games played, maybe don't try to rewrite history when I was a part of it?

I don't remember the terran dominance just alot of whine and im pretty sure terran where not winning abnormly much at all. Please prove me wrong.
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
April 26 2013 21:53 GMT
#5803
On April 27 2013 06:50 ysjayc wrote:
......i dont under stand russian....but

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/EmpireBratOK KAS VS HAPPY here



Shamtoo is streaming the same game in english
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
April 26 2013 21:53 GMT
#5804
On April 27 2013 06:49 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:45 Heavenlee wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:40 figq wrote:
Is this like the best day for foreigners in a major tournament in like a really really really long time?


Why? This is the best of Europe and the only top Koreans here are Polt, MC, Gumi, Leenock, Hyun, I guess Hero, and a couple others are around there. MC getting knocked out early unfortunately hasn't been a big deal lately, and Polt is the only real upset along with Hero, who isn't too hot lately either.

yes its called upset cauz most ppl thought polt gonna win the tournament

+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Who will win DreamHack Stockholm?

Polt (150)
 
13%

Other (132)
 
12%

NaNiwa (127)
 
11%

Grubby (102)
 
9%

GuMiho (99)
 
9%

Stephano (97)
 
9%

Leenock (82)
 
7%

Jaedong (81)
 
7%

MC (71)
 
6%

HerO (63)
 
6%

ForGG (60)
 
5%

ThorZaIN (36)
 
3%

Nerchio (25)
 
2%

1125 total votes

Your vote: Who will win DreamHack Stockholm?

(Vote): MC
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): NaNiwa
(Vote): ThorZaIN
(Vote): ForGG
(Vote): GuMiho
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Leenock
(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Other



Uh yeah, that's why I called it an upset? And 145 people do not represent "most people", and Naniwa was second place in that poll with 110 votes. Leenock and Gumi were always the favorites, with Polt being up there due to recent results. Sorry to rain on the parade but it's not like this is stacked with top Koreans who are getting destroyed.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 21:53:58
April 26 2013 21:53 GMT
#5805
On April 27 2013 06:52 StarVe wrote:
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On April 27 2013 06:51 Roman666 wrote:
Ok, time to brush up on my Russian and go watch some final games.

It's available in English, too.

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SchAmToo

It is lagging for me, unfortunately. Russian is very similar to Polish anyway.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 26 2013 21:53 GMT
#5806
On April 27 2013 06:51 arkedos wrote:
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On April 27 2013 06:50 Instigata wrote:
Is this part of the Euro WCS or something? Where are all the good Koreans like Life, Rain, DRG, Innovation, Parting etc



no but it gives points towards WCS, but it is not a direct WCS tournament. And there are plenty of good koreans.


The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
April 26 2013 21:54 GMT
#5807
On April 27 2013 06:51 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:49 Killmouse wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:45 Heavenlee wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:40 figq wrote:
Is this like the best day for foreigners in a major tournament in like a really really really long time?


Why? This is the best of Europe and the only top Koreans here are Polt, MC, Gumi, Leenock, Hyun, I guess Hero, and a couple others are around there. MC getting knocked out early unfortunately hasn't been a big deal lately, and Polt is the only real upset along with Hero, who isn't too hot lately either.

yes its called upset cauz most ppl thought polt gonna win the tournament

+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Who will win DreamHack Stockholm?

Polt (150)
 
13%

Other (132)
 
12%

NaNiwa (127)
 
11%

Grubby (102)
 
9%

GuMiho (99)
 
9%

Stephano (97)
 
9%

Leenock (82)
 
7%

Jaedong (81)
 
7%

MC (71)
 
6%

HerO (63)
 
6%

ForGG (60)
 
5%

ThorZaIN (36)
 
3%

Nerchio (25)
 
2%

1125 total votes

Your vote: Who will win DreamHack Stockholm?

(Vote): MC
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): NaNiwa
(Vote): ThorZaIN
(Vote): ForGG
(Vote): GuMiho
(Vote): Polt
(Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Leenock
(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Other



I don't understand why people were calling Polt the favorite when he isn't even the best Terran at the tournament.

Code S is too expensive to watch (VODS) so no one saw Gumiho play : (
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
April 26 2013 21:54 GMT
#5808
On April 27 2013 06:53 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Liquipedia says Coca beat Jaedong but then says Jaedong is 3-0 and Coca 2-1. Which is it?

http://dhopen.binarybeast.com/xSC21304254

the official bracket says Jaedong won 2 -1, so I'd trust that.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
PhiLtheFisH
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
April 26 2013 21:54 GMT
#5809
On April 27 2013 06:53 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Liquipedia says Coca beat Jaedong but then says Jaedong is 3-0 and Coca 2-1. Which is it?

Jaedong won.
Liquipedia
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
April 26 2013 21:54 GMT
#5810
Terrans definitely are struggling in this tournament
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 21:56:32
April 26 2013 21:54 GMT
#5811
On April 27 2013 06:53 Absentia wrote:
I can't imagine that Polt isn't partially regretting his decision to move to America. I'm not aware of his reasons for doing so, but it doesn't seem to have done anything beneficial for his SC2 career. He can't even practice on the Korean server properly because of lag and must now ladder against players who, a couple of months ago, were significantly below his skill level.
Disappointing to see such a talented player go out of a tournament like this so early.


Give Polt a break it can happen for everyone. Starcraft 2 is not black and white alot of shit can happen.

On April 27 2013 06:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:51 arkedos wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:50 Instigata wrote:
Is this part of the Euro WCS or something? Where are all the good Koreans like Life, Rain, DRG, Innovation, Parting etc



no but it gives points towards WCS, but it is not a direct WCS tournament. And there are plenty of good koreans.


The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,


Yes we know you in pain Aeroplaneoverthesea when a foreigner beats a Korean. but no need to shit over there achievement or call the Koreans in this tournament bad. Btw worst day ever for you Aeroplaneoverthesea ?
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
April 26 2013 21:54 GMT
#5812
On April 27 2013 06:53 Absentia wrote:
I can't imagine that Polt isn't partially regretting his decision to move to America. I'm not aware of his reasons for doing so, but it doesn't seem to have done anything beneficial for his SC2 career. He can't even practice on the Korean server properly because of lag and must now ladder against players who, a couple of months ago, were significantly below his skill level.
Disappointing to see such a talented player go out of a tournament like this so early.


He didn't move to America for his SC2 career, he's going to school there.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
April 26 2013 21:55 GMT
#5813
It's really stupid to let teammates play last in a format like that btw. Dreamhack got lucky that happy-kas is only important for seeding and hero-zenio doesn't affect other players.
xlord 5:0
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
April 26 2013 21:55 GMT
#5814
On April 27 2013 06:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:51 arkedos wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:50 Instigata wrote:
Is this part of the Euro WCS or something? Where are all the good Koreans like Life, Rain, DRG, Innovation, Parting etc



no but it gives points towards WCS, but it is not a direct WCS tournament. And there are plenty of good koreans.


The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,



still there are plenty of good koreans, there was never a dreamhack that was that stacked.
love esports - hate homophobia
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
April 26 2013 21:55 GMT
#5815
On April 27 2013 06:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:51 arkedos wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:50 Instigata wrote:
Is this part of the Euro WCS or something? Where are all the good Koreans like Life, Rain, DRG, Innovation, Parting etc



no but it gives points towards WCS, but it is not a direct WCS tournament. And there are plenty of good koreans.


The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,




Meaning a good bunch of european players are arround maybe Code A lvl in korea wich is in a way a progression and not the huge gap most peope talk about
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
April 26 2013 21:55 GMT
#5816
On April 27 2013 06:54 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:53 Absentia wrote:
I can't imagine that Polt isn't partially regretting his decision to move to America. I'm not aware of his reasons for doing so, but it doesn't seem to have done anything beneficial for his SC2 career. He can't even practice on the Korean server properly because of lag and must now ladder against players who, a couple of months ago, were significantly below his skill level.
Disappointing to see such a talented player go out of a tournament like this so early.


Give Polt a break it can happen for everyone. Starcraft 2 is not black and white alot of shit can happen.

People forget that Polt moved to the US partially because of studies...you know so that he can actually have another reliable source of income once SC2 stops being profitable for him?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
April 26 2013 21:56 GMT
#5817
Someone please stream SortOf against Center
Fody03
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy310 Posts
April 26 2013 21:56 GMT
#5818
Look at that Kas macro.10 marauders at time.ten.
Terrans
falafelnr1
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden444 Posts
April 26 2013 21:57 GMT
#5819
SortOf 2 - Center 0 !!!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 26 2013 21:57 GMT
#5820
On April 27 2013 06:55 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 06:54 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:53 Absentia wrote:
I can't imagine that Polt isn't partially regretting his decision to move to America. I'm not aware of his reasons for doing so, but it doesn't seem to have done anything beneficial for his SC2 career. He can't even practice on the Korean server properly because of lag and must now ladder against players who, a couple of months ago, were significantly below his skill level.
Disappointing to see such a talented player go out of a tournament like this so early.


Give Polt a break it can happen for everyone. Starcraft 2 is not black and white alot of shit can happen.

People forget that Polt moved to the US partially because of studies...you know so that he can actually have another reliable source of income once SC2 stops being profitable for him?

The reliable source of income is speaking English?^^
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