EPT"Growth" doesn't make much sense though now, I guess :D
[WCS AM] Premier Qualifiers Season 1 - Page 119
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
"Growth" doesn't make much sense though now, I guess :D | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:00 DeathProfessor wrote: I feel like this tournament was pretty badly designed (ya think?) no but besides all the issues I just feel like a losers bracket BO3 tournament was a terrible idea for NA. It is way easier on Koreans actually because if they drop a series they get easier competition and everyone is human and makes mistakes, second chance lets Korean mess up once and still get a seed. I guess what I am saying is NA players need to get lucky to win most of the time, this system eliminates luck from the equation. EU was smart by making a first round BO1, this allowed EU to get some decent snipes and it saved valuable time. If JD was elimmed out for example it would have saved so many players, OTP would have been saved and could have had an easier road to a spot. Also this argument about Idra or Demuslim is dumb, if you replaced someone it would be State or something, why compare one dude with another who both get big time stream numbers? They BOTH deserve to move on. Having the LB is great if you want the best players to go through, because the better players have more chances to go through. | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
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govie
9334 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:03 Bagration wrote: Having the LB is great if you want the best players to go through, because the better players have more chances to go through. And bo3 instead of first rounds bo1. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:04 fuzzylogic44 wrote: Who is filho? the names on the MLG site bracket are all random. "Filho" apparently won against Hyun in the LB? Hyun got DQed again | ||
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JJH777
United States4420 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:03 govie wrote: Not really. As elimenation or loser/winnersbrackets over mutiple days gives more then 1 chance for everybody. The difference between EU and NA is just that EU has better players basically. Just ask the korean protos if mech is viable in tvp  Lol EU does have better players but that is not the difference. The difference is 4 koreans trying to qualify vs 20 koreans trying to qualify. Then there's the fact that these are far better Koreans in this qualifier and there is less latency. | ||
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Cyrak
Canada536 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:00 DeathProfessor wrote: I feel like this tournament was pretty badly designed (ya think?) no but besides all the issues I just feel like a losers bracket BO3 tournament was a terrible idea for NA. It is way easier on Koreans actually because if they drop a series they get easier competition and everyone is human and makes mistakes, second chance lets Korean mess up once and still get a seed. I guess what I am saying is NA players need to get lucky to win most of the time, this system eliminates luck from the equation. EU was smart by making a first round BO1, this allowed EU to get some decent snipes and it saved valuable time. If JD was elimmed out for example it would have saved so many players, OTP would have been saved and could have had an easier road to a spot. Also this argument about Idra or Demuslim is dumb, if you replaced someone it would be State or something, why compare one dude with another who both get big time stream numbers? They BOTH deserve to move on. The tournament structure here isn't the problem. There will be other qualifiers in the future and inevitably Koreans would come and win and take over premier league. The problem is that Blizzard created a perverted set of economic incentives for Koreans by essentially coopting their scene, lowering its prize pool and number of tournament events and offering huge amounts of money to play easy players in NA. This is just beating a dead horse at this point; this has been gone over and over on the forums already. You can't create a tournament with a prize structure like WCS has where you can move between regions in a game where regional skill disparities are so massive. No amount of tweaking the bracket or group format would change this outcome. | ||
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dvorakftw
681 Posts
On April 21 2013 10:55 ZenithM wrote: Weird numbers for these qualifiers: 512 players 1 stream 3 casters 100% Koreans 90% downtime 1 maphacker Something must be wrong with your stream as I had less than 100% Koreans and closer to 90% gametime on mine. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
Has it been half an hour yet? I haven't been tracking his second comeback from the dead. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:03 ZenithM wrote: On another note, fungal looks (visually) way better as a slow but deadly missile than as some instant green aura coming out of nowhere. Really didn't expect how much i like this change. I suppose it was mostly because the WoL fungal was redicilous, but it's pretty cool that now you can see how good the terran is by how he actually splits just as it is about to land, rather than him being clairvoiant in when the FGs are about to be cast. | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
What for? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
He's not eligible for NA Premier league because he played in Code S this season | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:06 AgentW wrote: Has it been half an hour yet? I haven't been tracking his second comeback from the dead. They switched the player that would advance, first they gave the last guy Hyun defeated the place but they changed it to Hyun again so the opponent got a free win. | ||
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HotGlueGun
United States1409 Posts
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Cyrak
Canada536 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:04 fuzzylogic44 wrote: Who is filho? the names on the MLG site bracket are all random. "Filho" apparently won against Hyun in the LB? He is the latest player to benefit from Hyun being disqualified from the tournament but fear not... Hyun will rise again. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
He's not actually supposed to be able to play because he played in GSL. | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:07 Cyrak wrote: He is the latest player to benefit from Hyun being disqualified from the tournament but fear not... Hyun will rise again. What is there a zerg buff coming?  + Show Spoiler + People that don't get this joke haven't seen a graph over Hyuns winrates  | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:06 Zarahtra wrote: Really didn't expect how much i like this change. I suppose it was mostly because the WoL fungal was redicilous, but it's pretty cool that now you can see how good the terran is by how he actually splits just as it is about to land, rather than him being clairvoiant in when the FGs are about to be cast. And conversely "beautiful fungals" do actually make sense now, it's cool to see Zergs anticipate Terran's kiting and splitting to target efficiently. | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:07 Shellshock1122 wrote: He's not eligible for NA Premier league because he played in Code S this season If that's true why was he allowed to play several series? As far as I know Code S players are allowed to switch regions after this season and if they do they must play the qualifier simultaneously | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
On April 21 2013 11:09 fuzzylogic44 wrote: If that's true why was he allowed to play several series? MLG Admins | ||
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