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ElBlanco
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia140 Posts
April 21 2013 01:26 GMT
#2241
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 01:26:58
April 21 2013 01:26 GMT
#2242
On April 21 2013 10:25 Megiddosc wrote:
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On April 21 2013 10:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:23 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Only one American still in WB? This is quite different than EU qualifiers with the numer of koreans.


I may be wrong, but aren't there many more Koreans playing the NA qualifiers than the EU ones?

Yeah, like 5x the amount of koreans. And that's even if you include players like Daisy.


It does not matter.. as EU terrans hellbat drop and play mech. I have not seem 1 hellbatdrop or mech the whole day!! U muricans just dont wanna qualify!:D
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 21 2013 01:26 GMT
#2243
On April 21 2013 10:25 Iodem wrote:
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On April 21 2013 10:20 trudodyr wrote:
hendralisk and badcop the last americans standing.

After waiting an hour for his opponent to show up, Hendralisk is up 1 - 0 ^^

to be fair to Fruitsbasket for not being around for a while, the bracket does state that the round started at 01:00 GMT (+00:00) so he was probably doing other things until then
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 21 2013 01:27 GMT
#2244
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No
The curse is real
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 21 2013 01:27 GMT
#2245
On April 21 2013 10:22 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:21 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 Flanq wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

Capoch.

Yeah, but he was one of the "American" invites.
These players were invited over Demu:
HerO
Ryung
mOOnGLaDe
Polt
NesTea
Sen
viOLet
Snute


MLG's invite system is terrible and they shouldn't count Polt or Demuslim as non-NA, they are NA residents.


I agree. Not too pleased with how a lot of things are being handled lately.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 21 2013 01:27 GMT
#2246
On April 21 2013 10:27 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No


Demuslim's stream has in fact been more popular than idra's for the past few weeks.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 21 2013 01:28 GMT
#2247
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).

Idra routinely pulls double digit streams. Not only are there 5k-6k of his fans but another 5k-6k of trolls who appreciate the art of being a heel that idra has perfected in the SC2 scene. He is easily one of the top 5 entertainers in the game.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
April 21 2013 01:28 GMT
#2248
On April 21 2013 10:21 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:16 AgentW wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:16 Scootaloo SC2 wrote:
Why does DeMu keep pulling his SCVs?

Lost his 3rd CC without having a 4th, needed to go all in against a 3 base Protoss.


The real question is why he did it the first time, that was put him in the shit in the first place. That and the really bad map awareness, for the last 3-4 minutes he did not seem to know were Oz army was at any point.

Taking your third as late as the Protoss is a really tough spot. I wasn't expecting him to take a third, as players who are that behind on the expand and pull usually just go full on all in (seee Innovation and Bomber recently).


Yeah I have seen Innovation do that.. but well.. Demuslim had even supply even after losing a bunch of units and having 10-15 SCVS of mining for 2-3 minutes. So if he had done nothing my mate adds up to that he should have at least have been even.

Even then I think could have punished Oz hard for attacking his third, pulled the SCV:s into his main and plunge that army. But was hesitant/missed the army and by the time the fight went down he got flanked by an extra colossus +~15 supply gateway units.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 21 2013 01:28 GMT
#2249
On April 21 2013 10:25 templar rage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:22 Megiddosc wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 leo23 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?


theognis, capoch, state, fenix, hellokitty etc etc

pretty sad. Doesn't matter anyways since Koreans are going to win WCS NA regardless.

None of those are players that DeMuslim could replace.

Please try to attempt to understand how the invites work before complaining about them.


Maybe you should try to understand that maybe their invite system was flawed (or this whole system, but that's another discussion I don't want to bring up ITT). Maybe you should also try to understand that Demuslim is from NA for all intents and purposes. He's been based in NA for a very long time now.


Oh noes that means Thorzain can't be the king of the north anymore was to long in korea and turned korean !
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 21 2013 01:28 GMT
#2250
On April 21 2013 10:27 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No

Yes?
People just tune in to whoever gets to play Byun for 10 games in a row.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 21 2013 01:29 GMT
#2251
On April 21 2013 10:28 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:27 Tobblish wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No

Yes?
People just tune in to whoever gets to play Byun for 10 games in a row.

yeah i tuned in. those were some good games
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 21 2013 01:29 GMT
#2252
LOL, this is gg already.
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
April 21 2013 01:29 GMT
#2253
On April 21 2013 10:28 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).

Idra routinely pulls double digit streams. Not only are there 5k-6k of his fans but another 5k-6k of trolls who appreciate the art of being a heel that idra has perfected in the SC2 scene. He is easily one of the top 5 entertainers in the game.


Haha, so true.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 01:31:33
April 21 2013 01:30 GMT
#2254
On April 21 2013 10:27 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:27 Tobblish wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No


Demuslim's stream has in fact been more popular than idra's for the past few weeks.


When Idra is on he pulls more viewers, it's when Idra is not online or whoever starts out first that often gets the lead.
Demu has also been streaming A LOT, 6-8h long sessions so you could say that the is more popular.

edit: Demu can hold his number longer than Idra and when the one stop viewers jump over.
The curse is real
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 21 2013 01:30 GMT
#2255
ZooTop 2-0 badcop
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 21 2013 01:30 GMT
#2256
Can you guys stop talking about stream numbers? Thanks.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 21 2013 01:31 GMT
#2257
On April 21 2013 10:26 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:25 Megiddosc wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:23 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Only one American still in WB? This is quite different than EU qualifiers with the numer of koreans.


I may be wrong, but aren't there many more Koreans playing the NA qualifiers than the EU ones?

Yeah, like 5x the amount of koreans. And that's even if you include players like Daisy.


It does not matter.. as EU terrans hellbat drop and play mech. I have not seem 1 hellbatdrop or mech the whole day!! U muricans just dont wanna qualify!:D


It's fine, the EU players will play in their isolated little world, then have a rude awakening about their true skill levels in the season finals like they did at last MLG.
Hiro45
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada13 Posts
April 21 2013 01:31 GMT
#2258
On April 21 2013 10:28 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:27 Tobblish wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No

Yes?
People just tune in to whoever gets to play Byun for 10 games in a row.


If demu cant win a qualifier i dont think he should have got an invite to begin with since he is the #1 Gm on the ladder(Since that means so much even thoe he can not win a tourrny lol)
Herect
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil216 Posts
April 21 2013 01:31 GMT
#2259
On April 21 2013 10:23 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Only one American still in WB? This is quite different than EU qualifiers with the numer of koreans.


More Koreans, Better Koreans, Less lag. Only issue is the time zone. 10 am there.

Maybe tomorrow we could have a non-korean.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
April 21 2013 01:31 GMT
#2260
On April 21 2013 10:22 Megiddosc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:21 leo23 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?


theognis, capoch, state, fenix, hellokitty etc etc

pretty sad. Doesn't matter anyways since Koreans are going to win WCS NA regardless.

None of those are players that DeMuslim could replace.

Please try to attempt to understand how the invites work before complaining about them.


Or we could complain about the way the invites "work". Demuslim is a NA resident so he shouldn't have to compete for spots with people who don't actually live in NA currently since this whole WCS thing doesn't focus on nationality.

It's just a shitty system and it's not only MLG's fault but a big part is Blizzard's fault as well. Just like the Hyun thing are we going to blame this on the player or is it the responsibility of the Organizers to make sure one of the top Zerg players actually understands what the heck he is supposed to do to compete in this tournament.
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