• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:20
CEST 10:20
KST 17:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon106
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double Recent Patches and the Future Stellar Fest 1 Replay Pack Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ] 2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach Bot on ladder BW General Discussion PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7890 users

[WCS AM] Premier Qualifiers Season 1 - Page 113

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 111 112 113 114 115 274 Next
MOD NOTE: The bracket on Liquipedia is not final and should be assumed to be speculative. If you are a competitor, trust what MLG Admins tell you over the bracket.
ElBlanco
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia140 Posts
April 21 2013 01:26 GMT
#2241
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 01:26:58
April 21 2013 01:26 GMT
#2242
On April 21 2013 10:25 Megiddosc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:23 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Only one American still in WB? This is quite different than EU qualifiers with the numer of koreans.


I may be wrong, but aren't there many more Koreans playing the NA qualifiers than the EU ones?

Yeah, like 5x the amount of koreans. And that's even if you include players like Daisy.


It does not matter.. as EU terrans hellbat drop and play mech. I have not seem 1 hellbatdrop or mech the whole day!! U muricans just dont wanna qualify!:D
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 21 2013 01:26 GMT
#2243
On April 21 2013 10:25 Iodem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:20 trudodyr wrote:
hendralisk and badcop the last americans standing.

After waiting an hour for his opponent to show up, Hendralisk is up 1 - 0 ^^

to be fair to Fruitsbasket for not being around for a while, the bracket does state that the round started at 01:00 GMT (+00:00) so he was probably doing other things until then
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 21 2013 01:27 GMT
#2244
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No
The curse is real
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 21 2013 01:27 GMT
#2245
On April 21 2013 10:22 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:21 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 Flanq wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

Capoch.

Yeah, but he was one of the "American" invites.
These players were invited over Demu:
HerO
Ryung
mOOnGLaDe
Polt
NesTea
Sen
viOLet
Snute


MLG's invite system is terrible and they shouldn't count Polt or Demuslim as non-NA, they are NA residents.


I agree. Not too pleased with how a lot of things are being handled lately.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 21 2013 01:27 GMT
#2246
On April 21 2013 10:27 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No


Demuslim's stream has in fact been more popular than idra's for the past few weeks.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 21 2013 01:28 GMT
#2247
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).

Idra routinely pulls double digit streams. Not only are there 5k-6k of his fans but another 5k-6k of trolls who appreciate the art of being a heel that idra has perfected in the SC2 scene. He is easily one of the top 5 entertainers in the game.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
April 21 2013 01:28 GMT
#2248
On April 21 2013 10:21 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:19 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:16 AgentW wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:16 Scootaloo SC2 wrote:
Why does DeMu keep pulling his SCVs?

Lost his 3rd CC without having a 4th, needed to go all in against a 3 base Protoss.


The real question is why he did it the first time, that was put him in the shit in the first place. That and the really bad map awareness, for the last 3-4 minutes he did not seem to know were Oz army was at any point.

Taking your third as late as the Protoss is a really tough spot. I wasn't expecting him to take a third, as players who are that behind on the expand and pull usually just go full on all in (seee Innovation and Bomber recently).


Yeah I have seen Innovation do that.. but well.. Demuslim had even supply even after losing a bunch of units and having 10-15 SCVS of mining for 2-3 minutes. So if he had done nothing my mate adds up to that he should have at least have been even.

Even then I think could have punished Oz hard for attacking his third, pulled the SCV:s into his main and plunge that army. But was hesitant/missed the army and by the time the fight went down he got flanked by an extra colossus +~15 supply gateway units.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 21 2013 01:28 GMT
#2249
On April 21 2013 10:25 templar rage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:22 Megiddosc wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 leo23 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?


theognis, capoch, state, fenix, hellokitty etc etc

pretty sad. Doesn't matter anyways since Koreans are going to win WCS NA regardless.

None of those are players that DeMuslim could replace.

Please try to attempt to understand how the invites work before complaining about them.


Maybe you should try to understand that maybe their invite system was flawed (or this whole system, but that's another discussion I don't want to bring up ITT). Maybe you should also try to understand that Demuslim is from NA for all intents and purposes. He's been based in NA for a very long time now.


Oh noes that means Thorzain can't be the king of the north anymore was to long in korea and turned korean !
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 21 2013 01:28 GMT
#2250
On April 21 2013 10:27 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No

Yes?
People just tune in to whoever gets to play Byun for 10 games in a row.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 21 2013 01:29 GMT
#2251
On April 21 2013 10:28 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:27 Tobblish wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No

Yes?
People just tune in to whoever gets to play Byun for 10 games in a row.

yeah i tuned in. those were some good games
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 21 2013 01:29 GMT
#2252
LOL, this is gg already.
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
April 21 2013 01:29 GMT
#2253
On April 21 2013 10:28 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).

Idra routinely pulls double digit streams. Not only are there 5k-6k of his fans but another 5k-6k of trolls who appreciate the art of being a heel that idra has perfected in the SC2 scene. He is easily one of the top 5 entertainers in the game.


Haha, so true.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 01:31:33
April 21 2013 01:30 GMT
#2254
On April 21 2013 10:27 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:27 Tobblish wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No


Demuslim's stream has in fact been more popular than idra's for the past few weeks.


When Idra is on he pulls more viewers, it's when Idra is not online or whoever starts out first that often gets the lead.
Demu has also been streaming A LOT, 6-8h long sessions so you could say that the is more popular.

edit: Demu can hold his number longer than Idra and when the one stop viewers jump over.
The curse is real
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 21 2013 01:30 GMT
#2255
ZooTop 2-0 badcop
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 21 2013 01:30 GMT
#2256
Can you guys stop talking about stream numbers? Thanks.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 21 2013 01:31 GMT
#2257
On April 21 2013 10:26 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:25 Megiddosc wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:23 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Only one American still in WB? This is quite different than EU qualifiers with the numer of koreans.


I may be wrong, but aren't there many more Koreans playing the NA qualifiers than the EU ones?

Yeah, like 5x the amount of koreans. And that's even if you include players like Daisy.


It does not matter.. as EU terrans hellbat drop and play mech. I have not seem 1 hellbatdrop or mech the whole day!! U muricans just dont wanna qualify!:D


It's fine, the EU players will play in their isolated little world, then have a rude awakening about their true skill levels in the season finals like they did at last MLG.
Hiro45
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada13 Posts
April 21 2013 01:31 GMT
#2258
On April 21 2013 10:28 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:27 Tobblish wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:26 ElBlanco wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:21 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:19 Killcani wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?

idra/minigun/killer?

idra brings in way more viewers than demuslim and they perform about the same in tournaments, mlg made the right choice.


Lately Demuslims stream has been pulling over 7K viewers (which has been more than Idra the lately).


No

Yes?
People just tune in to whoever gets to play Byun for 10 games in a row.


If demu cant win a qualifier i dont think he should have got an invite to begin with since he is the #1 Gm on the ladder(Since that means so much even thoe he can not win a tourrny lol)
Herect
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil216 Posts
April 21 2013 01:31 GMT
#2259
On April 21 2013 10:23 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Only one American still in WB? This is quite different than EU qualifiers with the numer of koreans.


More Koreans, Better Koreans, Less lag. Only issue is the time zone. 10 am there.

Maybe tomorrow we could have a non-korean.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
April 21 2013 01:31 GMT
#2260
On April 21 2013 10:22 Megiddosc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 10:21 leo23 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:18 saksy2 wrote:
On April 21 2013 10:17 TimENT wrote:
Sorry. You guys fucked up having 1 bracket AND not inviting Demuslim. This is just sad :/

Honestly, which invitee should he have replaced?


theognis, capoch, state, fenix, hellokitty etc etc

pretty sad. Doesn't matter anyways since Koreans are going to win WCS NA regardless.

None of those are players that DeMuslim could replace.

Please try to attempt to understand how the invites work before complaining about them.


Or we could complain about the way the invites "work". Demuslim is a NA resident so he shouldn't have to compete for spots with people who don't actually live in NA currently since this whole WCS thing doesn't focus on nationality.

It's just a shitty system and it's not only MLG's fault but a big part is Blizzard's fault as well. Just like the Hyun thing are we going to blame this on the player or is it the responsibility of the Organizers to make sure one of the top Zerg players actually understands what the heck he is supposed to do to compete in this tournament.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
Prev 1 111 112 113 114 115 274 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 201
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 1051
Bisu 247
HiyA 130
hero 57
Mong 48
Shine 35
NotJumperer 26
Bale 26
sorry 24
Noble 8
[ Show more ]
Terrorterran 7
Killer 1
League of Legends
JimRising 504
Counter-Strike
ceh9531
Heroes of the Storm
WinterStarcraft789
crisheroes385
Other Games
summit1g9084
olofmeister922
PiGStarcraft327
Livibee153
ArmadaUGS34
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream548
Other Games
gamesdonequick535
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH316
• LUISG 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2390
League of Legends
• Rush1253
• Lourlo1098
• Jankos714
• Stunt462
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1h 40m
Afreeca Starleague
1h 40m
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
15h 40m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 2h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Online Event
4 days
FEL
4 days
AI Arena Tournament
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL: Ladder Tournament
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.