MMA sent out first, so there´s no trouble picking ace
Curious as to how Gumiho and Leenock will perform. Gumiho looked great in Code S and with Leenock it depends on whether he actually wants to win or hopes to win trying weird shit out.
sCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC ! I still can't really forgive him for trying to switch to lol but i really liked this player in the past i hope he will not disappoint.
I kind of want an MMA all-kill, since that's about the only chance I'll be able to watch it all live before I have to go to work... But a close, hard-fought 4-3 would be more fun to watch...
This is almost make or break for FXO this season, another terrible game like the last 2 and they could almost kiss their chance of making the play offs good-bye.
Hmmmm soo hard to call. On one hand Axiom-acer got a huge momentum going into this, beeing 2-0 against 0-2 in GSTL (and agaisnt the sameteam), on the other hand gumiho 4-0 his "group of death" this week, tear qualified for code A and we don't know what leenock manage to do yet, so as far as individual players go, FXO dont look that bad. Out of sheer GSTL momentum, axiom got this easy (and could even perform an all-kill), on the other handI would not be at all surprised to see one of the 3 heads perform an all-kill (hi gumi )
On April 19 2013 21:03 Daswollvieh wrote: MMA sent out first, so there´s no trouble picking ace
If there's anything LR threads have proved by being completely wrong time and again, it's that they have no idea at all how our guys pick their lineup
TB confirmed for ace. Don't tell FXO...
As Axiom is down on the ropes 0-3 against a sC who is showing the world LoL hadn't tainted his SC2 skills, Axiom quietly picks their ace. The team breaks, and every member sits down strangely, while the audience and FXO stare incomprehensibly. In the crowd, a man pulls off his mask and reveals himself to be TB, ace of Axiom. He performs an epic reverse all-kill by defeating sC, Leenock, Hurricane and GuMiho, all with games that have 95%+ approval rates on TL. TB races off, gives Genna a kiss on the cheek, and rushes towards the heavens.
On April 20 2013 13:13 Die4Ever wrote: the best player in the world dethroned by San? I don't get it, how can the best player in the world dethrone himself?
On April 20 2013 13:13 Die4Ever wrote: the best player in the world dethroned by San? I don't get it, how can the best player in the world dethrone himself?
abdicate?
except San is still the best player in the world obviously
On April 20 2013 13:13 Die4Ever wrote: the best player in the world dethroned by San? I don't get it, how can the best player in the world dethrone himself?
abdicate?
except San is still the best player in the world obviously
On April 19 2013 21:03 Daswollvieh wrote: MMA sent out first, so there´s no trouble picking ace
If there's anything LR threads have proved by being completely wrong time and again, it's that they have no idea at all how our guys pick their lineup
TB confirmed for ace. Don't tell FXO...
As Axiom is down on the ropes 0-3 against a sC who is showing the world LoL hadn't tainted his SC2 skills, Axiom quietly picks their ace. The team breaks, and every member sits down strangely, while the audience and FXO stare incomprehensibly. In the crowd, a man pulls off his mask and reveals himself to be TB, ace of Axiom. He performs an epic reverse all-kill by defeating sC, Leenock, Hurricane and GuMiho, all with games that have 95%+ approval rates on TL. TB races off, gives Genna a kiss on the cheek, and rushes towards the heavens.
Close but not. He will beat sc, gumiho and leenock in flash fashion. Then choya pulls out the ultimate ace : TheBest, who will kill Tb with sheer banshee control.
It bothers me so much that the supply and the resource are at the bottom instead of upper right... everything else is fantastic, just that tiny thing...
On April 20 2013 13:42 opterown wrote: sC repping that league of legends map awareness
Did he just fail badly or something?
(I'm wasted at the pub and MU twitch stream on y phone ain't working).
I'll have you know though that map awareness is something that SC breeds and LoL does not. I play some LoL and team mates worship me. It's hilarious. Like, yeah, matter of fact I did know where five of five dudes were lol.
One thing to note about MMA's defense is the Sensor Towers which gives him foresight into where sC's army is moving. Unlike MMA, sC is lacking Sensor Towers which gives him a strategic disadvantage.
On April 20 2013 13:53 ETisME wrote: i thought i was bored of starcraft2 when I watch spl. then here comes one of the most exciting tvt and sc2 is awesome again
Holy shhhhiiiitttt. With the opening, I though it was going to be boringly one sided, but it turned into a great game with constant action and permanant "is it going to end in the next minute ?" "is it the last engagement ?"
Though I want Axiom-Acer to win,, I'm so glad sC one that and I wouldn't be angry if he got an all kill lol. sC has had such bad luck with health issues and hes just coming back.. what a boss.
On April 20 2013 13:56 mrRoflpwn wrote: sC is so talented. There is no doubti n my mind he would have been a GSL champion if he didnt have his lung problems.
He was at his best during Mvp's reign, so sadly he'd have never gotten his trophy regardless.
Hmmm, Miya is an interesting choice because I heard he is a good ZvT sniper, but I'm thinking this is an outdated notion now. If Axiom-Acer chose him, he must have a very specific build prepared.
SC - GSL champ within a year. Miya is about to get destroyed. And after that poor Scarlett is gonna hoave to ZvT against him... I almost feel bad for her.
On April 20 2013 13:56 mrRoflpwn wrote: sC is so talented. There is no doubti n my mind he would have been a GSL champion if he didnt have his lung problems.
He most likely would have won one if he beat Nestea in that awesome game 5. If i remember right that season it was Nestea vs Inca finals.
On April 20 2013 13:56 mrRoflpwn wrote: sC is so talented. There is no doubti n my mind he would have been a GSL champion if he didnt have his lung problems.
He most likely would have won one if he beat Nestea in that awesome game 5. If i remember right that season it was Nestea vs Inca finals.
That was beautiful play by SC -- had he not caught every little maneuver by MMA there at the end and exploited it, MMA would have started mining and built up an army supply lead.
Happy sC is back. Great player, and if his health issues settle down, he should be in Premiere League before 2013 is done. Also blame Boxer for calling MMA cancer. Emperor's fault.
On April 20 2013 14:09 LeeDawg wrote: lol wtf happened game 1? i had proleague open and missed it...
MMA and sc moving with marine/tanks army everywhere, destroying command centers everywhere during 15 min. And it looked like the game could be over pretty much anytime. And you have to notice that sc opening went AWFULLY bad, and you would expect him to loose
On April 20 2013 14:09 LeeDawg wrote: lol wtf happened game 1? i had proleague open and missed it...
sick positional marine/tank war. sC clutched it after being behind most of the game
he was behind in upgrades but had a nice eco lead for most of the game. sC was ahead in supply for most of the game too, he wasn't thaaat behind until the basetrade i think
On April 20 2013 14:09 LeeDawg wrote: lol wtf happened game 1? i had proleague open and missed it...
sick positional marine/tank war. sC clutched it after being behind most of the game
I think wolfdor was overeacting with sC being behind a lot of times tbh. Except a couple times where he had MMA's army parked in his front door he was ahead or equal economical.
On April 20 2013 14:15 Die4Ever wrote: does gameheart have some kind of issue with revealing creep from building hatcheries?
I know what you are trying to say and this is a very complicated issue, but rest assured it doesn't have any affect on players (they do not see the creep).
With this parade style that the terrans are doing vs zerg nowadays, wouldn't it be really strong for the zerg to take a bunch of zerglings to intercept reinforcements? Your defence would be weaker for a little while but I think it would really pay off.
On April 20 2013 14:15 Die4Ever wrote: does gameheart have some kind of issue with revealing creep from building hatcheries?
I know what you are trying to say and this is a very complicated issue, but rest assured it doesn't have any affect on players (they do not see the creep).
is it similar to chronoboost, where the particles are already generated and when the observer switches to the players' view the particles don't get destroyed and just take time to fade? anyways if it doesn't affect the players that's fine
good to see sC doing well again, imo he should of won a GSL back in the Wings of Liberty day when he was in his prime and probably would of if not for his lung collapsing issues, he easily could of been in the finals vs Losira instead of Nestea if you recall the close match on Crossfire
On April 20 2013 14:25 AstroPegnuin wrote: good to see sC doing well again, imo he should of won a GSL back in the Wings of Liberty day when he was in his prime and probably would of if not for his lung collapsing issues, he easily could of been in the finals vs Losira instead of Nestea if you recall the close match on Crossfire
that finals was with Inca, NesTea faced Losira in the finals when he had his perfect season
On April 20 2013 14:25 Sevredol wrote: I don't understand why some of these zergs don't just send a few lings to runby the third or intercept the parade of re-inforcements... that what life would do meh
On April 20 2013 14:22 opterown wrote: i wonder why sC doesn't have a few marauders as well?
My theorycrafting guess, but I suppose sC is trying to maximize his Bio efficiency by building only Marines, which are cheaper in resources and supply than incorporating Marauders. Once he sees Ultras, he can immediately transition into Marauders easily and increase his efficiency against them, Infestors and Banelings.
On April 20 2013 14:25 AstroPegnuin wrote: good to see sC doing well again, imo he should of won a GSL back in the Wings of Liberty day when he was in his prime and probably would of if not for his lung collapsing issues, he easily could of been in the finals vs Losira instead of Nestea if you recall the close match on Crossfire
that finals was with Inca, NesTea faced Losira in the finals when he had his perfect season
oh well I'm pretty confident that sc would of steamrolled Inca then lol
On April 20 2013 14:25 AstroPegnuin wrote: good to see sC doing well again, imo he should of won a GSL back in the Wings of Liberty day when he was in his prime and probably would of if not for his lung collapsing issues, he easily could of been in the finals vs Losira instead of Nestea if you recall the close match on Crossfire
That final was vs Inc, not Losira. Losira was the one Nestea won a whole GSL without losing a single set.
On April 20 2013 14:25 Sevredol wrote: I don't understand why some of these zergs don't just send a few lings to runby the third or intercept the parade of re-inforcements... meh
All kill incoming?
It kinda works, but if they have widow mines or a bunker, it doesn't do shit and you're that much weaker defending. It's not a bad idea, but it's not guaranteed to do anything either.
edit: I'm nowhere as experienced as these guys obviously, but I always feel like (when facing this type of attack) that if I can just mass up a *few* more units, I'll crush the attack, so it's psychologically difficult to send units away from your defense.
On April 20 2013 14:25 Sevredol wrote: I don't understand why some of these zergs don't just send a few lings to runby the third or intercept the parade of re-inforcements... that what life would do meh
All kill incoming?
I think Scarlett or Ryung can stop SC personally.
Lol. Well Ryung is great yeah, if anyone can do it it's probably him. But then there's still GuMiHo, Leenock and a bunch of other talents lying in wait, and I'm sure someone has something prepared for him. :S
On April 20 2013 14:15 Die4Ever wrote: does gameheart have some kind of issue with revealing creep from building hatcheries?
I know what you are trying to say and this is a very complicated issue, but rest assured it doesn't have any affect on players (they do not see the creep).
is it similar to chronoboost, where the particles are already generated and when the observer switches to the players' view the particles don't get destroyed and just take time to fade? anyways if it doesn't affect the players that's fine
No not quite. The issue is that the observers in GameHeart are not real observers, but actually fake players which have no units. Blizzard has not given map makers a way to show one player's FoW memory to another, so all I can do is hide the buildings and units he hasn't seen, but not the creep itself. Each player actually has an invisible invincible unit hovering above their starting base that instantly adds a buff to each enemy structure the instant it comes into vision. GameHeart's vision system hides all enemy buildings that do NOT have this buff when you switch to a player's vision (units are hidden automatically). I am still trying to find a solution for creep, but luckily it very very rarely is an issue and I think it's worth the trade off for zoom and all of the other functions of GameHeart.
This is where Miya's Hive composition just falls flat against sC's drop-centric style. Infestors aren't as great against drops, Ultra/Ling/Bane can't hit air, and the mobility isn't that great.
On April 20 2013 14:15 Die4Ever wrote: does gameheart have some kind of issue with revealing creep from building hatcheries?
I know what you are trying to say and this is a very complicated issue, but rest assured it doesn't have any affect on players (they do not see the creep).
is it similar to chronoboost, where the particles are already generated and when the observer switches to the players' view the particles don't get destroyed and just take time to fade? anyways if it doesn't affect the players that's fine
No not quite. The issue is that the observers in GameHeart are not real observers, but actually fake players which have no units. Blizzard has not given map makers a way to show one player's FoW memory to another, so all I can do is hide the buildings and units he hasn't seen, but not the creep itself. Each player actually has an invisible invincible unit hovering above their starting base that instantly adds a buff to each enemy structure the instant it comes into vision. GameHeart's vision system hides all enemy buildings that do NOT have this buff when you switch to a player's vision (units are hidden automatically). I am still trying to find a solution for creep, but luckily it very very rarely is an issue and I think it's worth the trade off for zoom and all of the other functions of GameHeart.
On April 20 2013 14:32 Yunarc wrote: that was an awful game from miya, axiom-acer cannot afford to keep sending him out
That's such a poor mentality toi have, especially if Axiom-Acer intend to stick around in the GSTL (or potentially even ProLeague) for longer than a season.
Remember when Incredible Miracle were carried by Mvp and NesTea, and the team didn't do so well in team leagues because the coach didn't send them out? Look where they are right now, Seed is a GSL champion, YoDa and First are IEM champions, YongHwa has placed Top 4 in multiple major tournaments etc.
You can't just rely on your aces all the time, the other players need more experience as well.
On April 20 2013 14:32 Yunarc wrote: that was an awful game from miya, axiom-acer cannot afford to keep sending him out
That's such a poor mentality toi have, especially if Axiom-Acer intend to stick around in the GSTL (or potentially even ProLeague) for longer than a season.
Remember when Incredible Miracle were carried by Mvp and NesTea, and the team didn't do so well in team leagues because the coach didn't send them out? Look where they are right now, Seed is a GSL champion, YoDa and First are IEM champions, YongHwa has placed Top 4 in multiple major tournaments etc.
You can't just rely on your aces all the time, the other players need more experience as well.
they all showed potential even when they weren't winning, it's harsh to say it, but miya didn't, at all.
On April 20 2013 14:32 Yunarc wrote: that was an awful game from miya, axiom-acer cannot afford to keep sending him out
That's such a poor mentality toi have, especially if Axiom-Acer intend to stick around in the GSTL (or potentially even ProLeague) for longer than a season.
Remember when Incredible Miracle were carried by Mvp and NesTea, and the team didn't do so well in team leagues because the coach didn't send them out? Look where they are right now, Seed is a GSL champion, YoDa and First are IEM champions, YongHwa has placed Top 4 in multiple major tournaments etc.
You can't just rely on your aces all the time, the other players need more experience as well.
they all showed potential even when they weren't winning, it's harsh to say it, but miya didn't, at all.
i'm sure miya shows a lot of potential in house though
On April 20 2013 14:35 Gamegene wrote: Miyas hands still shaking after that game as he puts his hands in his eyes.
That was painful to see :<
Tell me about it. It's the only bad part about being a team owner. My heart is breaking for him, but the only place he's going to get over his anxiety is in the booth. We are confident we'll work through this together in time.
On April 20 2013 14:32 Yunarc wrote: that was an awful game from miya, axiom-acer cannot afford to keep sending him out
That's such a poor mentality toi have, especially if Axiom-Acer intend to stick around in the GSTL (or potentially even ProLeague) for longer than a season.
Remember when Incredible Miracle were carried by Mvp and NesTea, and the team didn't do so well in team leagues because the coach didn't send them out? Look where they are right now, Seed is a GSL champion, YoDa and First are IEM champions, YongHwa has placed Top 4 in multiple major tournaments etc.
You can't just rely on your aces all the time, the other players need more experience as well.
I am not trying to be mean to the guy, but in a best of 7 every game counts. If the matches were best of 9 then I would agree and like to see him sent out because the loss would not be as bad for the team and easier to recover from
On April 20 2013 14:35 Gamegene wrote: Miyas hands still shaking after that game as he puts his hands in his eyes.
That was painful to see :<
Tell me about it. It's the only bad part about being a team owner. My heart is breaking for him, but the only place he's going to get over his anxiety is in the booth. We are confident we'll work through this together in time.
i hope so, i always hear he's such a beast in practise/inner-teammate games :o
Poor MMA... played so well just to lose in the end Feel bad for him, must be harsh losing so much now! On the other hand, sC is kicking ass again!! Great stuff =D
On April 20 2013 15:06 smogg wrote: Ryung is the only one on sC's level. Might not be enough thogh. sC is smarter, which is the most important factor is TvT.
On April 20 2013 15:06 smogg wrote: Ryung is the only one on sC's level. Might not be enough thogh. sC is smarter, which is the most important factor is TvT.
On April 20 2013 15:06 smogg wrote: Ryung is the only one on sC's level. Might not be enough thogh. sC is smarter, which is the most important factor is TvT.
what? ryung is a tvt genius.
who's that prime girl?
BarbiePrime, IIRC the coach's GF. She hasn't played in GSTL yet, but she's GM and I'm positive is way better than Eve.
On April 20 2013 15:06 smogg wrote: Ryung is the only one on sC's level. Might not be enough thogh. sC is smarter, which is the most important factor is TvT.
On April 20 2013 15:06 smogg wrote: Ryung is the only one on sC's level. Might not be enough thogh. sC is smarter, which is the most important factor is TvT.
what? ryung is a tvt genius.
who's that prime girl?
BarbiePrime, IIRC the coach's GF. She hasn't played in GSTL yet, but she's GM and I'm positive is way better than Eve.
Are you sure about GM? I remember Masters. Not sure though
And Gerard is one handsome dude. His pics in Primezzang are actually the best
On April 20 2013 15:06 smogg wrote: Ryung is the only one on sC's level. Might not be enough thogh. sC is smarter, which is the most important factor is TvT.
what? ryung is a tvt genius.
who's that prime girl?
BarbiePrime, IIRC the coach's GF. She hasn't played in GSTL yet, but she's GM and I'm positive is way better than Eve.
On April 20 2013 15:06 smogg wrote: Ryung is the only one on sC's level. Might not be enough thogh. sC is smarter, which is the most important factor is TvT.
what? ryung is a tvt genius.
who's that prime girl?
BarbiePrime, IIRC the coach's GF. She hasn't played in GSTL yet, but she's GM and I'm positive is way better than Eve.
Are you sure about GM? I remember Masters. Not sure though
And Gerard is one handsome dude. His pics in Primezzang are actually the best
On April 20 2013 15:06 smogg wrote: Ryung is the only one on sC's level. Might not be enough thogh. sC is smarter, which is the most important factor is TvT.
what? ryung is a tvt genius.
who's that prime girl?
BarbiePrime, IIRC the coach's GF. She hasn't played in GSTL yet, but she's GM and I'm positive is way better than Eve.
Are you sure about GM? I remember Masters. Not sure though
And Gerard is one handsome dude. His pics in Primezzang are actually the best
>.>
She can't possibly be GM, she has only played sc2 for 4 months...
On April 20 2013 15:06 smogg wrote: Ryung is the only one on sC's level. Might not be enough thogh. sC is smarter, which is the most important factor is TvT.
what? ryung is a tvt genius.
who's that prime girl?
BarbiePrime, IIRC the coach's GF. She hasn't played in GSTL yet, but she's GM and I'm positive is way better than Eve.
They said she was... "High Masters".
I think she joined the team as masters, but there was a reddit thread a week ago with a twitter/facebook(?) pic of her in GM with a thumb bandaid.
Stim Tech Lab vulnerable? He actually moved it further back unlike that one Byun game...that game where he lost Stim x4 times is forever seared into my brain. Really did not expect sC to be doing so well, pleasantly surprised.
Ryung keeping his army together like a wrecking ball and taking advantage of sC's lack of condensed armies. sC choosing to play a more mobile style with speed medivacs, but he keeps losing focus.
On April 20 2013 15:31 Gamegene wrote: Ryung keeping his army together like a wrecking ball and taking advantage of sC's lack of condensed armies. sC choosing to play a more mobile style with speed medivacs, but he keeps losing focus.
One of the advantages of a more Bio-centric composition compared to the methodological style that Siege Tanks force upon that player.
On April 20 2013 15:32 DeathProfessor wrote: Sc would be instawin make Ravens
Holy shit this observer needs to be poached by EG in the name of Obama this is mindblowing
tech switches are very difficult to do in marine tank vs marine tank, just because there is a very high probability that you will lose critical amounts of your army.
if this was a smaller map like Daybreak, it would be possible but going for ravens right now would be suicide for either player.
On April 20 2013 15:41 chullore wrote: 5 all kills this season, 4 with terrans, hmm.
8 of those 16 wins in the 4 Terran all kills were TvT though....
the race that is sent out the most can also be an indication of balance
In proleague its mostly protoss. What does that say? Dont jump to conclusions. sC outplayed all his opponents today. Plus Axiom-Acer iis a mostly terran team.
On April 20 2013 15:41 chullore wrote: 5 all kills this season, 4 with terrans, hmm.
8 of those 16 wins in the 4 Terran all kills were TvT though....
the race that is sent out the most can also be an indication of balance
In proleague its mostly protoss. What does that say? Dont jump to conclusions. sC outplayed all his opponents today. Plus Axiom-Acer iis a mostly terran team.
2 of the other all kills are against NSH which doesn't say much either lol.
On April 20 2013 15:41 chullore wrote: 5 all kills this season, 4 with terrans, hmm.
8 of those 16 wins in the 4 Terran all kills were TvT though....
the race that is sent out the most can also be an indication of balance
In proleague its mostly protoss. What does that say? Dont jump to conclusions. sC outplayed all his opponents today. Plus Axiom-Acer iis a mostly terran team.
2 of the other all kills are against NSH which doesn't say much either lol.
Sure it does.
It says Jjajki can't carry his team on his back anymore.
On April 20 2013 15:41 chullore wrote: 5 all kills this season, 4 with terrans, hmm.
8 of those 16 wins in the 4 Terran all kills were TvT though....
the race that is sent out the most can also be an indication of balance
In proleague its mostly protoss. What does that say? Dont jump to conclusions. sC outplayed all his opponents today. Plus Axiom-Acer iis a mostly terran team.
2 of the other all kills are against NSH which doesn't say much either lol.
Exactly. Its so annoying when people make statements without thinking.
On April 20 2013 15:41 chullore wrote: 5 all kills this season, 4 with terrans, hmm.
8 of those 16 wins in the 4 Terran all kills were TvT though....
the race that is sent out the most can also be an indication of balance
In proleague its mostly protoss. What does that say? Dont jump to conclusions. sC outplayed all his opponents today. Plus Axiom-Acer iis a mostly terran team.
2 of the other all kills are against NSH which doesn't say much either lol.
Sure it does.
It says Jjajki can't carry his team on his back anymore.
On April 20 2013 15:41 chullore wrote: 5 all kills this season, 4 with terrans, hmm.
8 of those 16 wins in the 4 Terran all kills were TvT though....
the race that is sent out the most can also be an indication of balance
In proleague its mostly protoss. What does that say? Dont jump to conclusions. sC outplayed all his opponents today. Plus Axiom-Acer iis a mostly terran team.
2 of the other all kills are against NSH which doesn't say much either lol.
Sure it does.
It says Jjajki can't carry his team on his back anymore.
On April 20 2013 14:25 Sevredol wrote: I don't understand why some of these zergs don't just send a few lings to runby the third or intercept the parade of re-inforcements... meh
On April 20 2013 15:55 CCa1ss1e wrote: that zoom out was really awesome for those TvTs.. great job Legend.
yeah holy shit was that useful like, three seperate groups of units, all trying to make one massive siege line with vikings duking back and forth.. really loving the ui changes/updates
Tough loss for AxA, sometimes you just run into someone who's red-hot. I feel their big mistake was sending out Heart 3rd after sC had already shown such a good tvt against MMA. They should've gone with a protoss like Crank who had shown a good tvp game against Yoda rather then sending out 3 terrans of 4 in what is obviously a strong matchup for sC.
Clearly sC is a special player: all-killing the likes of MMA and Ryung in tvt is one helluva way to announce your comeback.
Oh man, this is so bad for me. Not only am I totally bummed out about AA losing, but I also had sC in my anti-team. And here I was been so smug about choosing Ganzi, ah well, easy come, easy go.
On April 20 2013 21:31 NovemberstOrm wrote: Quite happy that sC all-killed I did want Axiom-Acer to win but it's just amazing to see sC comeback and play again.
EPT
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