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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 14 2013 08:05 GMT
#301
PvZ is still fucking awful, just the other way around.

This is all fragiles fault
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 14 2013 08:06 GMT
#302
I'm surprised Dear hasn't gotten at least one oracle for revelation spotting.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
April 14 2013 08:06 GMT
#303
Blizzard making the same mistakes as WoL When will they ever learn. Leave it too long and it will just get worse like before.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 14 2013 08:06 GMT
#304
I feel sad for zergs on ladder, such a slow way to die.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 14 2013 08:06 GMT
#305
Voidray colossus pt. 2.

In all honesty though this strategy looks a bit strong.
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Serpest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States603 Posts
April 14 2013 08:06 GMT
#306
This is disgusting. I hate playing against this on ladder.
A person that attempts to diagnose themselves has a fool for a doctor and a bigger fool for a patient.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 08:07:34
April 14 2013 08:07 GMT
#307
On April 14 2013 17:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 17:04 stuchiu wrote:
On April 14 2013 17:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
This is the worst strat to spectate


So a player turtles on three bases while teching up to the ultimate sky army. The only difference between this and WoL PvZ is that the Zerg had to invest in actual land defense and energy units. Those seem optional for Protoss depending on the map.

this is the worst hots build*


It's the revenge of the Protoss. Now Zerg is forced to do all-ins and not ever let Toss to get to his lategame army

and yes, it's boring...
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
April 14 2013 08:07 GMT
#308
I actually enjoyed it a lot :D albeit this is the worst kind of strat to play against.
warmus
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom196 Posts
April 14 2013 08:07 GMT
#309
How does zerg fight this? infestor hydra with vipers? I just dont know
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
April 14 2013 08:07 GMT
#310
wow skytoss, not much pressure by sacsri in the early game tho
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11093 Posts
April 14 2013 08:07 GMT
#311
Cmon guys where's my live report of the last game :p What if I missed that rivetting masterpiece.
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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
April 14 2013 08:07 GMT
#312
On April 14 2013 17:06 Serpest wrote:
This is disgusting. I hate playing against this on ladder.

I haven't actually played against a max skytoss in a while on ladder. I just all in off three bases these days because late game feels like a nightmare.
Long live the King of Wings
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 08:08:33
April 14 2013 08:08 GMT
#313
Trap is going to close it out for STX SouL
I'm prepared for him to do the same strat just for fun
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Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
April 14 2013 08:08 GMT
#314
On April 14 2013 17:07 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 17:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 14 2013 17:04 stuchiu wrote:
On April 14 2013 17:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
This is the worst strat to spectate


So a player turtles on three bases while teching up to the ultimate sky army. The only difference between this and WoL PvZ is that the Zerg had to invest in actual land defense and energy units. Those seem optional for Protoss depending on the map.

this is the worst hots build*


It's the revenge of the Protoss. Now Zerg is forced to do all-ins and not ever let Toss to get to his lategame army

and yes, it's boring...


Except Protoss is completely safe, as you just saw. Zerg was never safe due to 2 base mass gate / immortal allin or pre-hive timing, or vortex (which was bullshit).
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Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
April 14 2013 08:08 GMT
#315
On April 14 2013 17:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 17:04 stuchiu wrote:
On April 14 2013 17:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
This is the worst strat to spectate


So a player turtles on three bases while teching up to the ultimate sky army. The only difference between this and WoL PvZ is that the Zerg had to invest in actual land defense and energy units. Those seem optional for Protoss depending on the map.

this is the worst hots build*

CreatorPrime turtle on fast third while massing Void Rays is pretty bad too. Takes about as much skill as playing a platinum league 4v4 game.
PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
April 14 2013 08:08 GMT
#316
Then go allin vs protoss just like toss had to do every game in wol.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
April 14 2013 08:08 GMT
#317
On April 14 2013 17:07 warmus wrote:
How does zerg fight this? infestor hydra with vipers? I just dont know

Early harass. Don't let them sit on three base uncontested for too long.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 14 2013 08:09 GMT
#318
On April 14 2013 17:07 warmus wrote:
How does zerg fight this? infestor hydra with vipers? I just dont know


Go all-in with Ling-Hydra in Neydus. Or heavy Muta-Ling pressure all the time. You can't ever let Protoss get to the maxed army he wants
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 14 2013 08:09 GMT
#319
On April 14 2013 17:07 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 17:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 14 2013 17:04 stuchiu wrote:
On April 14 2013 17:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
This is the worst strat to spectate


So a player turtles on three bases while teching up to the ultimate sky army. The only difference between this and WoL PvZ is that the Zerg had to invest in actual land defense and energy units. Those seem optional for Protoss depending on the map.

this is the worst hots build*


It's the revenge of the Protoss. Now Zerg is forced to do all-ins and not ever let Toss to get to his lategame army

and yes, it's boring...


Actually you don't have to. You can do WoL PvZ to fight it. Just replace broodlords with swarm hosts. mass infestors with vipers and some infestors, and make mass mass spore crawlers. That's how you technically beat skytoss PvZ in late game.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 14 2013 08:10 GMT
#320
On April 14 2013 17:07 warmus wrote:
How does zerg fight this? infestor hydra with vipers? I just dont know


Timingattack will do. Why let toss turtle when u know he is going difficult airtoss. Zerg failed there.
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