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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On April 07 2013 19:46 opterown wrote: [SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs. Samsung KHAN - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18198646 [SPL] KT Rolster vs. STX SouL - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18198770 anyone up for these? :D bump! | ||
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Good players do badly with a bad coach, so it's not just bought players at work here. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
On April 08 2013 10:15 Maghetti wrote: This is seriously bullshit. Giving a coach credit for good coaching is not taking away from the players what so ever. Imagine giving out a coach of the year award and some jackass coming in "but thats taking credit away from the players!" No it is not. Promoting a winners mind set is a coaches job, as is making sure they are put in the right maps against the right opponents with the right builds and providing them player specific information to make those builds. The only thing Coach park could not have done in a week is significantly effect the skill level of the player. They players did great and so too did the coach so stop this crap about taking away from the players. Forreal, I don't see the reason for all the bickering here....unless we're here just to bicker  ...I mean, we're TL I guess. On April 08 2013 11:08 HolyArrow wrote: Lol I don't get what's so difficult to grasp here. The coach AND the players both deserve credit, I can't fathom why anyone would claim that solely one or the other is responsible for the win. ^that. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On April 08 2013 10:15 Maghetti wrote: This is seriously bullshit. Giving a coach credit for good coaching is not taking away from the players what so ever. Imagine giving out a coach of the year award and some jackass coming in "but thats taking credit away from the players!" No it is not. Promoting a winners mind set is a coaches job, as is making sure they are put in the right maps against the right opponents with the right builds and providing them player specific information to make those builds. The only thing Coach park could not have done in a week is significantly effect the skill level of the player. They players did great and so too did the coach so stop this crap about taking away from the players. Look at the post i quoted. Never any mention about the players. A couple posts in this thread as well acting like Alive and Oz were bad and just magically became monsters thanks to the coach is less then week. I am not saying that the coach doesn't deserve credit but more people praising him then the actual players. | ||
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
On April 08 2013 11:21 Assirra wrote: Look at the post i quoted. Never any mention about the players. A couple posts in this thread as well acting like Alive and Oz were bad and just magically became monsters thanks to the coach is less then week. I am not saying that the coach doesn't deserve credit but more people praising him then the actual players. Because the discussion is about the god damn coaching quality. You do not need to make mention of the player and the coaching together in every post. There was nothing wrong with the post you responded too. | ||
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ETisME
12703 Posts
On April 08 2013 11:21 Assirra wrote: Look at the post i quoted. Never any mention about the players. A couple posts in this thread as well acting like Alive and Oz were bad and just magically became monsters thanks to the coach is less then week. I am not saying that the coach doesn't deserve credit but more people praising him then the actual players. you shouldn't blame them. EGTL had taeja, hero, jyp, revival, JD and stephano and how did the team perform? not taking it all away from alive and Oz but certainly the teamleague is more than just the players. | ||
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iNviSible.yunO
Germany211 Posts
On April 08 2013 11:32 Maghetti wrote: Because the discussion is about the god damn coaching quality. You do not need to make mention of the player and the coaching together in every post. There was nothing wrong with the post you responded too. Absolutely agree, man! The post he responded to was actually pretty damn awesome. It even used a new line for every single punchline. No seriously, giving a ton of credit to the coach is fine. He deserves it. And no - I dont post every single one of my thoughts;) And I dont have to. But since it seems to be very important to you, here is what i WAS thinking: All in all I awarded 6,5 tons of credit to EGTL. And one of those goes to coach park. For making the players stream with their offrace for example and for organizing their practise schedule and for many more things. Who are you to tell me how I am to give out my tons of credit! Shame on you! | ||
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insanet
Peru439 Posts
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Snoodles
401 Posts
On April 08 2013 12:23 insanet wrote: Without Taeja, and Hero losing his match, Team Liquid doenst look a strong partner now. I have the feeling EG is going solo next season. I thought so too. Is there any word on liquid investing in more proleague players? | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
박용운 @HeadCoachPark 24s Nothing great in the world has been accomplished without passion. We need more your passion. Feed him your passion, guys | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
You make it sound so dirty. | ||
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theMagus
578 Posts
oh coach park, take me! | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On April 08 2013 12:33 Snoodles wrote: I thought so too. Is there any word on liquid investing in more proleague players? it has been team taeja pretty much to begin with see atc | ||
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Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
alive gets an interview! | ||
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
This is HotS and he has Jaedong on the team, shouldn't he be asking for our essense? | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
Interview is up! | ||
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jplus
United States30 Posts
On April 08 2013 11:57 ETisME wrote: you shouldn't blame them. EGTL had taeja, hero, jyp, revival, JD and stephano and how did the team perform? not taking it all away from alive and Oz but certainly the teamleague is more than just the players. Exactly, consider the JD interview: Seems like things have changed for you with the addition of supervisor Park Yong Woon. Well, I did just grab two victories today since the acquisition of supervisor Park (laughs). He helped me out so much in getting rid of all my negative thoughts and reforming my lazy habits. I feel like my mentality has gotten stronger because of supervisor Park. He even fixed the way I approach all my games and practices. I want to take this opportunity to thank him It sure seems like even with a beast like JD, coaching is really important for him to get the best results. In reality, I think coaches don't get nearly enough credit, but just look at all of the things that he could help fix from JD. A good coach really knows how to get the best out of his players. | ||
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