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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 18 2013 00:27 GMT
#9361
Honestly, Flash just misplayed that map. He moved out without proper intel or scouting and Life punished him. Newkirk will be interesting ...
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9362
On March 18 2013 09:27 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 09:25 Qikz wrote:
On March 18 2013 09:24 PoP wrote:
Why the hell did Flash let Life have so much vision?


It's basically free on the map with 4 towers, there's not much he could do to stop it


Well at least deny the lings when this is all zerg has... He did absolutely nothing with his hellions

Constantly microing Hellions to avoid being surrounded while managing add-ons and such is a nightmare.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9363
On March 18 2013 09:27 FakeDeath wrote:
How was MC vs Life?


Not good. Whirlwind game was probably most worth your time!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9364
On March 18 2013 09:24 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 09:23 DJHelium wrote:
On March 18 2013 09:19 EpiK wrote:
On March 18 2013 09:04 Devolved wrote:
Is this a battle of the 2 best players in the world?
Poll: Is Flash the best Terran in the world?

Yes (87)
 
51%

No (84)
 
49%

171 total votes

Your vote: Is Flash the best Terran in the world?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




I answered yes to this but it wasn't as confident as my yes to the Life poll. Not entirely sure why. I can't name another terran besides maybe Innovation that can can have that title.


There's ton of high level players we've yet to see play HotS. While I do think Life is the best player atm, there's no way of knowing if maybe DongRaeGu, Symbol or Losira is better at the moment. Same goes for the other races ofc.


DRG and Symbol played and failed to qualify.

yep in qualifier that may as well be a coin flip tournament as some of invited guys did not play hots at all
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9365
On March 18 2013 09:27 Killcani wrote:
That allin looked incredibly strong


Wasn't an all-in, but it was incredibly heavy pressure allowed by his really fast third.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9366
all terrans need to widow mine entrances of all bases.
moo...for DRG
ioCross
Profile Joined October 2012
United States53 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9367
i don't know if this has been posted before, but this almost seems to be the 2nd comming of flash in the guise of life.

if life beats flash, it should almost be a repeat of flash's breakout performance, as he beat bisu who was arguably the best player at the time.

flash can arguably be consitered to be in the definate upper echelons of sc2 players, and while life is more accomplished at this point than flash was, one can't argue the obvious skill difererence between the old generation and the new generation.

I may be wrong, and it might be pre-mature, but i really think that life is flat out out-playing flash at this point, and it seems that life's overall skill cap is higher than flash's overall skill cap.
bsdaemon
Profile Joined July 2012
618 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9368
126k viewers, so nice!
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9369
On March 18 2013 09:26 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 09:24 Mindcrime wrote:
On March 18 2013 09:23 DJHelium wrote:
On March 18 2013 09:19 EpiK wrote:
On March 18 2013 09:04 Devolved wrote:
Is this a battle of the 2 best players in the world?
Poll: Is Flash the best Terran in the world?

Yes (87)
 
51%

No (84)
 
49%

171 total votes

Your vote: Is Flash the best Terran in the world?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




I answered yes to this but it wasn't as confident as my yes to the Life poll. Not entirely sure why. I can't name another terran besides maybe Innovation that can can have that title.


There's ton of high level players we've yet to see play HotS. While I do think Life is the best player atm, there's no way of knowing if maybe DongRaeGu, Symbol or Losira is better at the moment. Same goes for the other races ofc.


DRG and Symbol played and failed to qualify.


I thought Symbol didn't try to qualify? And they played during another patch.

Anywho, it doesn't even matter The point I'm trying to make is that the sample size is not big enough.


Oh, you're right. Symbol didn't play. I must've been thinking of one of the other s zergs.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9370
On March 18 2013 09:27 Hamboigahz wrote:
What is this song playing right now?


Apparently it is WAMP WOMP WOMP
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9371
On March 18 2013 09:26 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 09:24 TTOMZ wrote:
Seriously everytime a terran moves out Life counter attacks with lings

How do Terrans keep dying to it, they must know he's going to do it. Its becoming a joke

this x1000! It keeps on allowing happening ><


It's just not true: the same push that demolished Life's 3rd in g2, is the one that was countered here.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9372
I like the theory that Life is actually just Savior after tons of plastic surgery he was able to get with all the money he bad off Brood War betting.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9373
On March 18 2013 09:26 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 09:23 zyzq wrote:
such a strong all-in T_T


It's not an all in!

the build is not an allin but you are behind on tech if it does nothing. life delays his spire / infestation pit by a good 2 minutes to mass up ling/baneling for this attack.
:)
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9374
On March 18 2013 09:25 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 09:24 PoP wrote:
Why the hell did Flash let Life have so much vision?


It's basically free on the map with 4 towers, there's not much he could do to stop it


Not much? Flash never once sent a scv to the top tower where the soon-to-be-baneling lings were, and his helions were just sitting in front of his nat.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9375
Heart of the Swarm is difficult for Zerg? No problem just win with a style that was popular one year after WoL release where zergs were struggling too, but do it in the goddamn MLG finals vs a new and improve Terran units vs a guy with godlike mechanics!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9376
On March 18 2013 09:27 FakeDeath wrote:
How was MC vs Life?


Quick.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Vesky
Profile Joined January 2013
United States857 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9377
On March 18 2013 09:27 snakeeyez wrote:
Some of it really is luck with an attack he has no idea its coming. If he is macroing or watching something then zerglings go into his main he might not have time to raise the depots then he raises those and his marines die to banes. It can happen to any player its not he is bad it was just bad luck


I won't argue that you can call that bad luck to some degree, but it was also clearly bad play.

You can't pull a total "luck" card on this one...
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9378
On March 18 2013 09:27 snakeeyez wrote:
Some of it really is luck with an attack he has no idea its coming. If he is macroing or watching something then zerglings go into his main he might not have time to raise the depots then he raises those and his marines die to banes. It can happen to any player its not he is bad it was just bad luck


Well Life played masterfully to prevent Flash from noticing, sending individual zerglings to cover all possible scouts.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9379
On March 18 2013 09:26 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 09:25 DemigodcelpH wrote:
People are talking about "Flash didn't micro", but neither did Life. Flash is forced to micro to survive apparently. Why is that?

What do you mean Life didn't micro?


It's a subtle a-move whine, but he doesn't know he's doing it.

I guess people think Life hits a, clicks once and then starts dining on a fine porterhouse steak.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
March 18 2013 00:28 GMT
#9380
On March 18 2013 09:26 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 09:25 DemigodcelpH wrote:
People are talking about "Flash didn't micro", but neither did Life. Flash is forced to micro to survive apparently. Why is that?


asymmetric game
shutup

HotS is looking superb.


I definitely agree with this; I'm just saying people shouldn't be complaining about Flash "doing bad" or insulting him when he already has a higher micro requirement in that situation.
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