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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#2021
On March 18 2013 03:06 haka wrote:
Everyone needs to chill out about balance.


Truer words have never been spoken
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gamerdude12345
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)378 Posts
March 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#2022
On March 18 2013 03:06 YourHarry wrote:
did Life make a single HOTS unit in this tournament?


mutas
'One does not simply walk into Mordor"
MuteZephyr
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania448 Posts
March 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#2023
What happened to the whole "Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread."?

I just want to be happy and watch good games, which there is no question, there have been several of.

Please?
I don't Micro, I FEMTO. That's 9 orders of magnitude more extreme.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28098 Posts
March 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#2024
On March 18 2013 03:07 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 03:06 haka wrote:
Everyone needs to chill out about balance.


Truer words have never been spoken

Yes, I agree.
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rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
March 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#2025
On March 18 2013 03:02 Shellebelles wrote:
I can't play terran for shit. Like I'm okay with Protoss and Zerg but somehow the level of micro/macro/multitasking of terran is to difficult for me. So watching high level terrans playing what I can't do is beautiful.

So for those who claim terran is imba (without your main race being terran), switch and see if you start roflstomping games, because it is very difficult to do so if you're not korean standard. Flash/innovation aren't playing imba races, they are just imba themselves.


How random players not being able to play Terran would mean anything to the state of balance when it comes to Tournaments ?

Not saying it is imbalanced, but your comment is ridiculous.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#2026
On March 18 2013 03:04 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 03:02 Shellebelles wrote:
I can't play terran for shit. Like I'm okay with Protoss and Zerg but somehow the level of micro/macro/multitasking of terran is to difficult for me. So watching high level terrans playing what I can't do is beautiful.

So for those who claim terran is imba (without your main race being terran), switch and see if you start roflstomping games, because it is very difficult to do so if you're not korean standard. Flash/innovation aren't playing imba races, they are just imba themselves.


exactly, a lot of people don't play sc2 anymore i guess


Unless you're a professional player, using your own experiences to determine balance is foolish.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
March 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#2027
Bomber vs MC ...go MC for the protoss race
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#2028
Please let good Bomber show up today.
The curse is real
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
March 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#2029
On March 18 2013 03:07 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 03:06 Severian wrote:
Holy crap Last build some bloody supply depots

Was last the Kespa terran famous for using a billion supply drops? Or was that Innovation?


That's Innovation/Bogus... the creator of the Matrix according to Artosis.
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
March 17 2013 18:08 GMT
#2030
Did I just see Bomber smiling in his booth?
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10138 Posts
March 17 2013 18:08 GMT
#2031
Does the loser choose the map they are going to play ? I don't understand why life would get that map.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 17 2013 18:08 GMT
#2032
On March 18 2013 03:07 Giriath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 03:04 Makro wrote:
On March 18 2013 03:02 Shellebelles wrote:
I can't play terran for shit. Like I'm okay with Protoss and Zerg but somehow the level of micro/macro/multitasking of terran is to difficult for me. So watching high level terrans playing what I can't do is beautiful.

So for those who claim terran is imba (without your main race being terran), switch and see if you start roflstomping games, because it is very difficult to do so if you're not korean standard. Flash/innovation aren't playing imba races, they are just imba themselves.


exactly, a lot of people don't play sc2 anymore i guess


Unless you're a professional player, using your own experiences to determine balance is foolish.


Except Carriers. Dude those are so imbalanced
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Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
March 17 2013 18:08 GMT
#2033
On March 18 2013 03:07 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 03:06 Severian wrote:
Holy crap Last build some bloody supply depots

Was last the Kespa terran famous for using a billion supply drops? Or was that Innovation?

Probably not, as he doesn't seem to be using any. Just soooo many blocks.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
March 17 2013 18:08 GMT
#2034
Overall,Vipers are a staple support.

Swarm Hosts on the other hand............
Play your best
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
March 17 2013 18:08 GMT
#2035
What I want:

MC > Bomber
Life > Last

------------------
FlaSh > Bogus
Life > MC

-----------------
MC > Bogus
FlaSh > Life
@Emperor_Earth ------- "Amat Victoria Curam."
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 17 2013 18:08 GMT
#2036
On March 18 2013 03:01 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 02:58 Kevan wrote:
On March 18 2013 02:57 Zealously wrote:
On March 18 2013 02:56 Al Bundy wrote:
On March 18 2013 02:54 suicideyear wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: What was the most super imba part of Flash/Parting?

Flash (91)
 
64%

Medivacs (47)
 
33%

Proxy Stargates (3)
 
2%

Widow Mines (1)
 
1%

Reapers (1)
 
1%

143 total votes

Your vote: What was the most super imba part of Flash/Parting?

(Vote): Medivacs
(Vote): Widow Mines
(Vote): Reapers
(Vote): Proxy Stargates
(Vote): Flash



I don't believe there is an imbalance in favor of Terran. It's just that the best players happen to play this particular race.


Where have I read this before...

Towards the end of WoL when all the best players played zerg.


Actually that's not true. During the BL/Infestor period the imbalance was widely accepted, and these players weren't really considered the best; this is why you had the birth of the term "patchzerg" that was even used by Zerg players when you had finals with no-name foreign Zergs vs MVP (mid 2012 I believe).

On the other-hand, even during periods where Terran is doing good, the community still tends to recognize the skill as a whole because it's also generally accepted that Terran is the skill-race because of it's steep micro requirements. In conclusion we as the community aren't as transparent as you're portraying to just shift opinion like that.


Yes everyone who plays terran is a skilled god and anyone who plays other races only ever wins because of imbalance. Such conceited BS that people like you spin. The funny thing is I know you're going to be one of the biggest criers if medivacs are eventually nerfed.

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 17 2013 18:08 GMT
#2037
On March 18 2013 03:07 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 03:06 Severian wrote:
Holy crap Last build some bloody supply depots

Was last the Kespa terran famous for using a billion supply drops? Or was that Innovation?

It was TY (Baby) and Artosis was trying to figure out a way it was really genius instead of sloppy play
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
March 17 2013 18:08 GMT
#2038
On March 18 2013 03:07 MuteZephyr wrote:
What happened to the whole "Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread."?

I just want to be happy and watch good games, which there is no question, there have been several of.

Please?


You must be new to LR threads. It happens every time.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Keltanokka
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Finland279 Posts
March 17 2013 18:08 GMT
#2039
blue streams audio keeps cutting out for me. Anyone else have this? Red 100% fine
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 17 2013 18:09 GMT
#2040
By the way, despite all the balance whine(perhaps warranted), keep in mind that Terran doesn't really have any difficult to use new units and they're kind of intuitive and easy to start using(especially the medivacs), whereas for other races the new units and abilities will probably take more time before people will know how to utilize them correctly.
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