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The time has come for the Premier group matches of the IGN Pro Team League 2013 Season 1!
Upcoming Premier Group B Matches:
LG-IM v Karont3 - Feb 5th
Team Liquid v MVP - Feb 12th
When: Wednesday, Feb 06 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)
Format
Premier Division Group A is made up of four teams: StarTale, Evil Geniuses, FXO, and Prime. Group B contains LG-IM, MVP, Team Liquid, and Karont3. Both groups will play round robin against each other team in their group. When group stages are over, the top two teams from each Group will play in a playoff for the $9,000 first prize!
![[image loading]](http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/970/imicon.png) LG-Incredible Miracledreamertt Fenix First Happy LosirA Mvp NesTea Ready Seed True YoDa YongHwa Horror Ragnarok SK.MC ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/thumb/8/86/Karont3.jpg/300px-Karont3.jpg) Karont3 e-Sports ClubLucifroN VortiX LoLvsxD KrasS Giantt viPro Ryo
This match of the IPTL Premier Division Group B is on Wednesday, Feb 06 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)
Poll: Who will win?LG-IM (40) 75% Karont3 (13) 25% 53 total votes Your vote: Who will win? (Vote): LG-IM
(Vote): Karont3
Results!+ Show Spoiler [LG-IM vs Karont3 Results] + viPro < Cloud Kingdom > Seed
KrasS < Daybreak > Seed
LucifroN < Whirlwind > Seed
LucifroN < Abyssal City > True
Giantt < Antiga Shipyard > True
VortiX < Ohana > True
VortiX < Entombed Valley > YongHwa
Map List
IPLMap Atlantis Spaceship
IPLMap Antiga Shipyard
IPLMap Daybreak
IPLMap Whirlwind
IPLMap Cloud Kingdom
IPLMap Metropolis
IPLMap Ohana
IPLMap Entombed Valley
**Abyssal City**
The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.
NOTE: We have changed the naming schema for this season of IPTL. We will now be naming our seasons by year (though I know you were all excited for IPTL XXVI). This will be IPTL 2013 Season 1.
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Karont3 will put up a great fight but LG-IM will take it home in the final game.
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Karont3 can't really compare, unless IM pulls out the C-teamers.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
I think this can only go one way. Even if Seed gets taken out, LG-IM has First, Losira, Happy and YongHwa to pick up the slack. Heck, they can bring out 10 GSL championships in MC/Nestea/Mvp if they really need to.
I'm going to give Karont3 the benefit of doubt and say that Vortix and Lucifron each may take one game, but no more.
LG-IM 5:2 Karont3
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IM simply has a far deeper depth in terms of players, and more accomplished ones than Karont3 could ever compare to.
IM 5-2 Karont3
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IM 5-0 plz (helps MVP i think)
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Either LG-IM 5-0 or something close like 5-3/5-4. Either Seed gets an all-kill, or K3 puts up a surprisingly good fight (particularly because LG-IM is bound to use a b-teamer or two)
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I want to see  IM.http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Ruin playing.
P.S. Ready and  horror did not take part in GSL prelims and I am 95% sure that they are inactive and left the team.
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On February 06 2013 05:05 PhoenixVoid wrote:
IM simply has a far deeper depth in terms of players, and more accomplished ones than Karont3 could ever compare to.
IM 5-2 Karont3
That's what they said about Liquid.
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Unless the Spanish armada is on a hell of a day, it will go to IM.
I do think the Duran Brothers will take a game each. 5-2
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Forgot Byul on the IM roster.
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I am thinking here...
If Karont takes 3 games off of IM (quite possible), and TL all-kills MVP (Taeja back? Hero?), Karont will go through!
They could make it out, even though they were, by far, the "weaker" team on the group.
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On February 06 2013 06:15 Jotoco wrote:
I am thinking here...
If Karont takes 3 games off of IM (quite possible), and TL all-kills MVP (Taeja back? Hero?), Karont will go through!
They could make it out, even though they were, by far, the "weaker" team on the group.
Correct me, but if Karont3 wins three games, they are 10-14 and TL would be 10-10 in this situation, so TL would move on (MVP>Karont>TL>MVP in the descripted case, so we would have to go to mapscore).
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IM 5-1 in my opinion, we'll see. Probably VortiX will take a game or something, but LGIM is way too strong.
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Seed all-kill please. ^_^
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Please duran brothers you can do this!!!
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seed, YongHwa, first---
do you have MKP? well
..edit.. forgot MC.
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I don't think anyone but Vortix has a chance of taking a game off of anyone on IM 
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Seed first.. This will be an all-kill
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oh nice. IM in IPLTL then almost the entire A-team tonight in gsl ^^
IM 5-1 or 5-0 I'd say. Lucifron I can see pulling an upset against Seed. Then Byul or First come out to clean up the last game.
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I doubt that vortix can allkill any 5 members of IM.. goodluck karonte!!
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What the...LG-IM vs Karont3 has to be one of the biggest David vs Goliath match ups ever. It;ll be interesting to see if Lucifron or Vortix can take a game off LG-IM.
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vipro pls dont lose this now :o
e, i cannot believe this omg
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ViPro, don't give this game away after this huge advantage please!
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viPro went full foreigner 
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haha he's so nervous :D:D thats somehow cute. dont be nervous man we are just some nerds watching sc 2
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Dam my net went out. Could someone explain how viPro had an advantage and then went full foreigner?
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On February 06 2013 09:23 ELlminator1 wrote:
Dam my net went out. Could someone explain how viPro had an advantage and then went full foreigner?
Seed had the better composition and micro-ed pretty well, ViPro overextended massively. Edit: He engaged poorly in the choke near Seeds mainly, getting all his zealots killed for free and then losing his obs. Kept attacking while Seed blinked his stalkers to the high ground getting a massive concave that couldn't be seen.
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"Full foreigner"? Such an advantage in early game botched. Late assimilators and few supply blocks combined with bad engagements. And after all that it seemed close. Without those mistakes it would be "easy" for viPro. Nevertheless, good job. Guess nerves were working against him.
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On February 06 2013 09:23 ELlminator1 wrote:
Dam my net went out. Could someone explain how viPro had an advantage and then went full foreigner?
well he had an expansion much earlier than seed and both went for blinkstalker so he had a huge lead in the probe count, but somehow he thought it would be a great idea to attack seed and not building tech went up to 6 gates and some nice ffs saved seed the game while he counteratttacked with 4 stalkers.
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For a solo cast this guy is doing a nice job. It might be mostly due to the fact that he is a "new voice" but its part of the charm of IGN's new casters.
Well done to both.
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Dam such a shame. I really want Karont3 to take a few games. Hope KrasS can take a game off seed even though Ive never heard of him before.
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Is Giantt on loan or something?
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why o why lucifron... send in that lolvsxd... -_-
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On February 06 2013 09:30 ELlminator1 wrote:
Dam such a shame. I really want Karont3 to take a few games. Hope KrasS can take a game off seed even though Ive never heard of him before.
he beat tails in karontes last game in IPTL :o
but seems like seed is too much he was way better here than krass vipro should have won that
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On February 06 2013 05:56 DiMano wrote:I want to see IM.http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Ruin playing. P.S. Ready and horror did not take part in GSL prelims and I am 95% sure that they are inactive and left the team.
Well, Ready was on the team picture when they presented ASRock as their new sponsor
+ Show Spoiler +
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Pretty good solo cast, nice job!
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now this one could actually be good
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Lucifron All-kill incoming...
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On February 06 2013 09:40 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 05:56 DiMano wrote:I want to see IM.http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Ruin playing. P.S. Ready and horror did not take part in GSL prelims and I am 95% sure that they are inactive and left the team. Well, Ready was on the team picture when they presented ASRock as their new sponsor + Show Spoiler +
It is not Ready lol, It is Ruin.
1) YongHwa
2) Mvp
3) ByuL
4) Seed
5) True
6) First
7) YoDa
8) Ruin
9) dreamertt
10) RagnaroK
LosirA, NesTea and Happy are missing.
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Revenge for Koreans vs The World!
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yeah snipe that colossus son lol 
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???wtf seed... what a weird game that was
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It's funny to see Lucifron play and win, especially when you know that Naniwa called him an "absolutely crappy player who only bases his play on luck".
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haha seed was bming luci pretty hard during the koreans vs. foreigners event at ipl5.. that must have been a satisfying win for luci
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On February 06 2013 09:58 -IeZaeL- wrote:Very well played by Luci. Btw he dropped mules because if im not wrong... Seed made a "manner nexus" at his main base in a tournament... MLG if im not wrong? Revenge! ^^
maybe we're talking about the same thing. they played on cloud kingdom and seed /cheered his zealots during an early engagement and later blocked off his own 4th using 3 nexuses haha.
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Very well played by Luci. Btw he dropped mules because if im not wrong... Seed made a "manner nexus" at his main base in a tournament... MLG if im not wrong? Revenge! ^^
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On February 06 2013 09:58 DanceForMeMonkeyBoy wrote:
It's funny to see Lucifron play and win, especially when you know that Naniwa called him an "absolutely crappy player who only bases his play on luck".
seeing goody win games is so much more funny haha :D
http://i.imgur.com/A89gy4w.jpg
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On February 06 2013 09:58 DanceForMeMonkeyBoy wrote:
It's funny to see Lucifron play and win, especially when you know that Naniwa called him an "absolutely crappy player who only bases his play on luck".
Is that statement about his warcraft 3 or starcraft 2 career?
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On February 06 2013 09:58 -IeZaeL- wrote:Very well played by Luci. Btw he dropped mules because if im not wrong... Seed made a "manner nexus" at his main base in a tournament... MLG if im not wrong? Revenge! ^^
IPL5 foreigner- korean showmatch
Unfortunately Lucifron is pretty bad on Abyssal City, can't really see him winning here.
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On February 06 2013 10:03 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 09:58 -IeZaeL- wrote:Very well played by Luci. Btw he dropped mules because if im not wrong... Seed made a "manner nexus" at his main base in a tournament... MLG if im not wrong? Revenge! ^^ IPL5 foreigner- korean showmatch Unfortunately Lucifron is pretty bad on Abyssal City, can't really see him winning here.
Luci have a very good TvZ,but yeah..this map will be hard for him i think. >_<!!
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On February 06 2013 10:01 kc2siq wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 09:58 DanceForMeMonkeyBoy wrote:
It's funny to see Lucifron play and win, especially when you know that Naniwa called him an "absolutely crappy player who only bases his play on luck". Is that statement about his warcraft 3 or starcraft 2 career?
It's a statement from Naniwa's stream a couple of days ago, but knowing the whiny Swede it's probably about both his WC3 (Blademaster who?) and SC2 career.
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True has been showing some pretty good play recently, he took out Snute 2-0 and now LucifroN.
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On February 06 2013 10:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
True has been showing some pretty good play recently, he took out Snute 2-0 and now LucifroN.
IM B team too strong
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He'll probably beat Giantt but VortiX has sick ZvZ, he has a great shot against true. It wouldn't really fit if Karont3 go out to IMTrue.
At least bring in Yonghwa or something.
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On February 06 2013 09:58 DanceForMeMonkeyBoy wrote:
It's funny to see Lucifron play and win, especially when you know that Naniwa called him an "absolutely crappy player who only bases his play on luck".
when did nani say that?
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Only three more to go. No worries. :p
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i seriously cannot get excited watching another immortal sentry all in
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IM: How do you like them protoss?
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Not even close, as expected. Oh well.
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On February 06 2013 11:00 Talack wrote:i seriously cannot get excited watching another immortal sentry all in
I totally understand how you feel.
But the way Yonghwa tricked Vortix with the corridor and the phoenix was so damn sick. It's so simple but so damn ballsy.
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So Karont3 is eliminated correct?
and all MVP has to do to advance is win 2 games v. TL?
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On February 06 2013 11:05 TommyP wrote:
So Karont3 is eliminated correct?
and all MVP has to do to advance is win 2 games v. TL?
I don't know if head-to-head or map score is counted first. But I'd like to know!
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It's weird how IM is so good in IPTL but so bad in GSTL, they won IPL TAC 3 from the winners bracket, went 3-0 in their group in IPTL S1, made the finals lost to startale who still had parting and squirtle, now 3-0 their group again.
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On February 06 2013 11:09 MetalPanda wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 11:05 TommyP wrote:
So Karont3 is eliminated correct?
and all MVP has to do to advance is win 2 games v. TL? I don't know if head-to-head or map score is counted first. But I'd like to know!
well it MVP wins, they advance but if liquid wins then Karont3, Liquid and MVP are tied 1-2. So im guessin in that case its map score
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On February 06 2013 11:09 MetalPanda wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 11:05 TommyP wrote:
So Karont3 is eliminated correct?
and all MVP has to do to advance is win 2 games v. TL? I don't know if head-to-head or map score is counted first. But I'd like to know!
Well, if MVP wins, no need for tiebreakers. If TL wins, it will be 1-2 for all 3 teams with them 1-1 vs each other so head to head will not break it. It will come down to map score.
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On February 06 2013 11:10 Dodgin wrote:
It's weird how IM is so good in IPTL but so bad in GSTL, they won IPL TAC 3 from the winners bracket, went 3-0 in their group in IPTL S1, made the finals lost to startale who still had parting and squirtle, now 3-0 their group again.
Yeah, IM, typical offline chokers. :D
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On February 06 2013 11:13 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 11:09 MetalPanda wrote:On February 06 2013 11:05 TommyP wrote:
So Karont3 is eliminated correct?
and all MVP has to do to advance is win 2 games v. TL? I don't know if head-to-head or map score is counted first. But I'd like to know! Well, if MVP wins, no need for tiebreakers. If TL wins, it will be 1-2 for all 3 teams with them 1-1 vs each other so head to head will not break it. It will come down to map score.
Ok so if my math is correct, Karont3 is eliminated and TL has to 5-0 or 5-1 MVP or they are eliminated.
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Where dat snitch at?37014 Posts
Good effort by Karont3
But none the less, LG-IM winning was inevitable.
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On February 06 2013 11:10 Dodgin wrote:
It's weird how IM is so good in IPTL but so bad in GSTL, they won IPL TAC 3 from the winners bracket, went 3-0 in their group in IPTL S1, made the finals lost to startale who still had parting and squirtle, now 3-0 their group again.
It's because none of the teams play their stars. Well at least not till the later rounds. When you remove the stars from every team IM on top by a much bigger margin than they are with them included.
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Alright, we can figure this out.
If MVP wins against TL they advance for sure.
The best liquid can do is go 1-2 with 10-10 map score. If that happened MVP would be at 9-12, and Liquid would advance. If Liquid goes 5-1 against them they end up 10-11, MVP is 10-12 and Liquid is 10-11, so basically yeah 2 if Liquid loses 2 or more maps then MVP advances.
For K3 to advance they need... Man, math is hard. Is there a way for K3 to win?
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On February 06 2013 13:02 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 11:10 Dodgin wrote:
It's weird how IM is so good in IPTL but so bad in GSTL, they won IPL TAC 3 from the winners bracket, went 3-0 in their group in IPTL S1, made the finals lost to startale who still had parting and squirtle, now 3-0 their group again. It's because none of the teams play their stars. Well at least not till the later rounds. When you remove the stars from every team IM on top by a much bigger margin than they are with them included.
I am not sure about that. Maybe in the 1st IPL TAC. But for TAC3 and IPTL S1 2012 and this tournament. All the Korean teams are playing their star players when playing against other korean teams.
Look at 2012 IPTL S1 : IM beat the following
ST : Hack, Life, Squirtle, PartinG, Curious
Prime : B4, Maru, MKP, Creator, ByuN
TSL : Ragnarok, inori, HyuN, Polt, Revival
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Congratulations LG-IM, topping your group and looking fearsome as you do it.
Didn't even need Mvp to do it.
Go go LG-IM, on to the finals!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 06 2013 04:56 Zealously wrote:
I think this can only go one way. Even if Seed gets taken out, LG-IM has First, Losira, Happy and YongHwa to pick up the slack. Heck, they can bring out 10 GSL championships in MC/Nestea/Mvp if they really need to.
I'm going to give Karont3 the benefit of doubt and say that Vortix and Lucifron each may take one game, but no more.
LG-IM 5:2 Karont3
Surprisingly accurate
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On February 06 2013 17:43 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 04:56 Zealously wrote:
I think this can only go one way. Even if Seed gets taken out, LG-IM has First, Losira, Happy and YongHwa to pick up the slack. Heck, they can bring out 10 GSL championships in MC/Nestea/Mvp if they really need to.
I'm going to give Karont3 the benefit of doubt and say that Vortix and Lucifron each may take one game, but no more.
LG-IM 5:2 Karont3 Surprisingly accurate
On February 06 2013 06:10 Jotoco wrote:
Unless the Spanish armada is on a hell of a day, it will go to IM.
I do think the Duran Brothers will take a game each. 5-2
I was right too!
And on another note, they REALLY need a protoss player on the same caliber as then. Maybe it could be a adopted brother, or something.
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