On February 03 2013 14:24 BisuDagger wrote: 4,000 viewers are stuck watching that SC2 trailer for 6 more minutes.
What do you mean, shouldn't you be supporting e-sports? It's nice they show the trailer, but I wonder if this week for SPL they generated new content that doesn't center on foreigners.
On February 03 2013 14:24 SoleSteeler wrote: That crowd.
It looked depressingly empty =/
Don't you know it's the weekend and it's cold out. Clearly everyone is either on vacation or refuse to ride their bikes to the studio cause of the weather. T_T
On February 03 2013 14:26 Dodgin wrote: I miss bisu
just give me bisu
Watch him have played HoTS exclusively and just built up all this tension in WoL to dominate HoTS :D. Quite seriously, I hope Bisu becomes the SPL beast that he was.
On February 03 2013 14:24 SoleSteeler wrote: That crowd.
It looked depressingly empty =/
Don't you know it's the weekend and it's cold out. Clearly everyone is either on vacation or refuse to ride their bikes to the studio cause of the weather. T_T
On February 03 2013 14:24 SoleSteeler wrote: That crowd.
It looked depressingly empty =/
Don't you know it's the weekend and it's cold out. Clearly everyone is either on vacation or refuse to ride their bikes to the studio cause of the weather. T_T
you are combating a statement of fact with a statement of generalizations and assumptions. Even if what you said was 100% true it still sucks the crowd is empty.
I was quoting the main excuses the English casters give in greaaaaat Sarcasm. xD
On February 03 2013 14:24 SoleSteeler wrote: That crowd.
It looked depressingly empty =/
Don't you know it's the weekend and it's cold out. Clearly everyone is either on vacation or refuse to ride their bikes to the studio cause of the weather. T_T
you are combating a statement of fact with a statement of generalizations and assumptions. Even if what you said was 100% true it still sucks the crowd is empty.
I was quoting the main excuses the English casters give in greaaaaat Sarcasm. xD
haha ok I have them muted at all times =P My mistake!!
On February 03 2013 14:24 SoleSteeler wrote: That crowd.
It looked depressingly empty =/
Don't you know it's the weekend and it's cold out. Clearly everyone is either on vacation or refuse to ride their bikes to the studio cause of the weather. T_T
you are combating a statement of fact with a statement of generalizations and assumptions. Even if what you said was 100% true it still sucks the crowd is empty.
I was quoting the main excuses the English casters give in greaaaaat Sarcasm. xD
haha ok I have them muted at all times =P My mistake!!
It's ok, any reason to have conversation in the LR thread is a breathe of fresh air. It's dead in this thread
On February 03 2013 14:38 BisuDagger wrote: The only thing the casters are missing are the stockpile of gas for Soo.
It's not like he's going to use it anyway, remember him vs a protoss where he banked 3.5k and died?
Yeah exactly. I was hoping Soo was saving for higher tech units and it just turned into really late roaches to defense with.It just seems that he makes spending decisions to late. GG.
It seems to me TL-EG got into proleague with a condition that there would be adds for there team with EG the main focus to be frank. It would be a way to open TL and EG to the korean market...
That game was so quick. I don't like mirrors especially cause it leaves us nothing to analyze about that game...except maybe poor scouting by Soo to prepare for roses.
One thing that Kespa or OGN does well is giving us these commercial break interviews. Really gives outsiders a better look into the personalities and the teamhouses.
I'm not really sure what Fantasy was trying to achieve by killing that spine... he was never going to do any damage with that many marines against a spine and queens...
fantasys 2rax was extremely effective. he was ahead in supply after the rush and ahead economically
im starting to think 2rax might be the most economic opener against zerg. forcing the drones to come off like that cuts a ton of early economy for the zerg and is extremely worth it while the terran doesnt need to pull scv's
also, a mule mines as good as 4 SCV's. so whenever i see terrans food i always add 4 for each orbital so fantasy was extremely ahead early when you consider that as well
i dont really follow sc2 but wtf is happening with bisu all the skt LR threads ive seen over the past 128379123 years doesnt seem to have any bisu in it
On February 03 2013 15:24 evilfatsh1t wrote: i dont really follow sc2 but wtf is happening with bisu all the skt LR threads ive seen over the past 128379123 years doesnt seem to have any bisu in it
On February 03 2013 15:24 evilfatsh1t wrote: i dont really follow sc2 but wtf is happening with bisu all the skt LR threads ive seen over the past 128379123 years doesnt seem to have any bisu in it
'cause he sucks in SC2 so far
Not entirely true. He's 1 and 1 this season and had a decent run trying to make Code A. There is also a boxer interview saying he has actually trained up really well and should be out soon. So all the "he sucks" comments are just blemishing his name. He doesn't suck he just hasn't developed his skills over night.
*Effort had three banes burrowed that Fanta danced on top of with his big bio-ball, but it seemed as they were forgotten and got picked later when ravens arrived
On February 03 2013 15:24 evilfatsh1t wrote: i dont really follow sc2 but wtf is happening with bisu all the skt LR threads ive seen over the past 128379123 years doesnt seem to have any bisu in it
'cause he sucks in SC2 so far
Not entirely true. He's 1 and 1 this season and had a decent run trying to make Code A. There is also a boxer interview saying he has actually trained up really well and should be out soon. So all the "he sucks" comments are just blemishing his name. He doesn't suck he just hasn't developed his skills over night.
hehe, skt1 logo: check bisu in name: check
He sucks so far because he's only played 2 games in PL and hasn't been sent out, thereby implying he's worse than his teammates. Sure he might be better than some of the people we see more commonly from other teams but there's a good reason he hasn't been played much so far
If you'd prefer: he sucks relative to his teammates.
On February 03 2013 15:36 AgentW wrote: Why is Entombed the only map we see nukes in late game TvZ? Can anyone recall games in which they occur on other maps?
On February 03 2013 15:24 evilfatsh1t wrote: i dont really follow sc2 but wtf is happening with bisu all the skt LR threads ive seen over the past 128379123 years doesnt seem to have any bisu in it
'cause he sucks in SC2 so far
Not entirely true. He's 1 and 1 this season and had a decent run trying to make Code A. There is also a boxer interview saying he has actually trained up really well and should be out soon. So all the "he sucks" comments are just blemishing his name. He doesn't suck he just hasn't developed his skills over night.
hehe, skt1 logo: check bisu in name: check
He sucks so far because he's only played 2 games in PL and hasn't been sent out, thereby implying he's worse than his teammates. Sure he might be better than some of the people we see more commonly from other teams but there's a good reason he hasn't been played much so far
If you'd prefer: he sucks relative to his teammates.
I'll accept that final statement. But let's look at Bisu's Brood War career start going 7-10 only scraping 2 of his first 9 games. But once he got adjusted went 5-3 and started to hone his skills from there. Currently in SC2 Bisu hasn't been allowed to reach that many games.
The closest PL match this season was the one where Effort identically lost his spine crawler and lost to having no buildings. That was him this season right?
in proleague it's really funny how sometimes both players can do the same amount of economic damage to the each other, forcing a sort of reset with a different army value...
On February 03 2013 15:52 lenjurik wrote: do yourselves a favor and hop on the korean stream if you haven't already (http://thisr.com/adTV/ongamenethd)...
I agree about the casters. They're *okay, but the analysis is off, and I would appreciate if they showed more emotion and hyped it more instead of sounding so monotonous.
On February 03 2013 15:52 Taipoka wrote: I was asking myself. Instead of spend resources on a ton of nukes, why not make a ton of BCs??????
He made like 10 maybe 12 nukes...a nuke cost is 100min 100gas.A BC is 400min 300gas plus u need the fusioncore...you're not gonna make a ton of BC with than money...and effort had corruptors.
On February 03 2013 15:52 lenjurik wrote: do yourselves a favor and hop on the korean stream if you haven't already (http://thisr.com/adTV/ongamenethd)...
On February 03 2013 15:54 iiAreJordan wrote: I agree about the casters. They're *okay, but the analysis is off, and I would appreciate if they showed more emotion and hyped it more instead of sounding so monotonous.
i don't think they are OK.... emotion is one thing, but they keep messing up the analysis and it's always annoying and takes away from the game. and if they were to admit they are wrong, they'd be much better. instead when something happens in the game that goes against their predictions, they always try to make up excuses and i seriously don't care for them.
On February 03 2013 15:52 lenjurik wrote: do yourselves a favor and hop on the korean stream if you haven't already (http://thisr.com/adTV/ongamenethd)...
So far in THIS game, analysis has been FINE. I wish good things for the casters and hope they improve soon. I mean, paid for the $5 yearly pass and for $5 maybe I shouldn't really complain. Sometimes it's annoying tho. Just saying.
On February 03 2013 15:52 lenjurik wrote: do yourselves a favor and hop on the korean stream if you haven't already (http://thisr.com/adTV/ongamenethd)...
On February 03 2013 15:49 Release wrote: Fantasy didn't deserve to win that.
SO im glad that effort did
How do you figure that? They both played well and Fantasy had the right idea with his nukes although his splits could've been a lot better. I did think he was going to take that game, sad that he lost :/
I feel like if Paralyze had built those 2 sentries when his warpgates were still up instead of saving the 100 for an additional pylon he might have been able to make something happen.
On February 03 2013 16:33 Havik_ wrote: WTF was that build? I missed that game,but I saw a 1 base Protoss vs 3 base Zerg at 13 minutes. Something clearly didn't go right.
On February 03 2013 16:30 forsooth wrote: Why is the OP not updated?
edit: wow, just as I type this...
Last edit: 2013-02-03 16:11:18 ---> OP
you must have been mistaken?
I checked 5 seconds before I made the post, don't know how that would be the case.
Also, time is 23:33 here so I have no idea that time zone that is.
you didn't refresh it. the time zone there is KST which is TL time zone.
you posted at 16:30 and the OP was updated at 16:11 last before then. pretty sure something stuffed up on your end, jbright is pretty good with OP updates
On February 03 2013 16:33 Havik_ wrote: WTF was that build? I missed that game,but I saw a 1 base Protoss vs 3 base Zerg at 13 minutes. Something clearly didn't go right.
You see similar stuff in silver league lol..
I was in Silver for a good while and I never saw anything like that. LOL.
I like how commentator like "He makes void rays so zerg knows it's gonna be attack". What about sitting on 1 base for 8 minutes until attack, that does not say anything lol?
On February 03 2013 16:37 Alpina wrote: I like how commentator like "He makes void rays so zerg knows it's gonna be attack". What about sitting on 1 base for 8 minutes until attack, that does not say anything lol?
i don't think zerg scouted the (lack of) expansions from protoss?
On February 03 2013 16:37 Alpina wrote: I like how commentator like "He makes void rays so zerg knows it's gonna be attack". What about sitting on 1 base for 8 minutes until attack, that does not say anything lol?
i don't think zerg scouted the (lack of) expansions from protoss?
the ovi saw that and got killed. Enough evidence of an one-base voidray allin
On February 03 2013 16:37 Alpina wrote: I like how commentator like "He makes void rays so zerg knows it's gonna be attack". What about sitting on 1 base for 8 minutes until attack, that does not say anything lol?
Overlord saw a warping nexus, which hero cancelled after the overlord was killed. So commentator was right, unless the second overlord saw the broken rocks and/or void ray, zerg player would not have thought that protoss was going to 1 base all in
On February 03 2013 16:55 YourHarry wrote: casters are doing OK so far.
But SNM: Please refrain from saying things like "The medivic had really low HP (I told you so!)"
Your partner will admit that he was wrong.... OK
It's a tease, not really bashing each other.
It's like every time when Artosis sets up Tasteless with "Ask me <insert bla bla about game>" (that's obvious), then Tasteless answers the question, then Artosis "OF COURSE TASTELESS! WHY DID YOU BOTHER ASKING ME THAT", then Tasteless goes "I don't know Artosis!".
Whiplash is Masters in Korea (and was once Grand Masters in NA) and SMN is at least Diamond in Korea btw. It's not that they don't know much about the game but I do agree that (in terms of casting) some things can be improved (when to talk about certain builds, when to talk about certain strategies, etc).
On February 03 2013 16:55 YourHarry wrote: casters are doing OK so far.
But SNM: Please refrain from saying things like "The medivic had really low HP (I told you so!)"
Your partner will admit that he was wrong.... OK
It's a tease, not really bashing each other.
It's like every time when Artosis sets up Tasteless with "Ask me <insert bla bla about game>" (that's obvious), then Tasteless answers the question, then Artosis "OF COURSE TASTELESS! WHY DID YOU BOTHER ASKING ME THAT", then Tasteless goes "I don't know Artosis!".
I don't think SNM was trying to bash his partner. You are right. But he wasn't teasing either. If he was teasing, he should do a better job. Say outright 'I told you so!!!". That would be fine. Maybe funny.
But SNM tries to indirectly remind everyone that he was right in these instances. Either he should not talk about it or be obvious that he's teasing his partner
Poor Bisu, he looked crushed as Fantasy passed by >< That bonus story between ZerO and Jaehoon looked good though, he's really improving fast! Hope his nerves don't get to him as much anymore(Jaehoon)
On February 03 2013 17:26 Devolved wrote: wow, worst decision I've seen from a progamer in at least 2 or 3 days...
To say the least! There's no possible way Fantasy could have lost that base race, he's Terran! Instead he turns his whole army around to go back and watch. Why? Whywhywhywhywhy?
Sucks to have fantasy as your captain and paralyze in your team, both losing to hero when they should have won. Make matters even worse SKT1 is my team T_T
Well there go my liquibets. Bison would've had a better chance vs herO I think. :/
On February 03 2013 17:28 Sedzz wrote: Sucks to have fantasy as your captain and paralyze in your team, both losing to hero when they should have won. Make matters even worse SKT1 is my team T_T
On February 03 2013 17:28 Sedzz wrote: Sucks to have fantasy as your captain and paralyze in your team, both losing to hero when they should have won. Make matters even worse SKT1 is my team T_T
That was so painful to watch. Why didn't Fantasy lift his buildings and move them over? He just watched all of them go down. Did he forget he can lift them until only his cc and like 2 rax remained? ><
On February 03 2013 17:29 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Well there go my liquibets. Bison would've had a better chance vs herO I think. :/
On February 03 2013 17:28 Sedzz wrote: Sucks to have fantasy as your captain and paralyze in your team, both losing to hero when they should have won. Make matters even worse SKT1 is my team T_T
You deserve it for calling them SKT1. Lol. ^^
SKT T1 is too mainstream
Quite the contrary, I find that the overwhelming majority of SC2 fans call them SKT1 even though it makes no sense. ^^
On February 03 2013 17:29 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Well there go my liquibets. Bison would've had a better chance vs herO I think. :/
On February 03 2013 17:28 Sedzz wrote: Sucks to have fantasy as your captain and paralyze in your team, both losing to hero when they should have won. Make matters even worse SKT1 is my team T_T
You deserve it for calling them SKT1. Lol. ^^
SKT T1 is too mainstream
Quite the contrary, I find that the overwhelming majority of SC2 fans call them SKT1 even though it makes no sense. ^^
well it's not like SKT1 is quite wrong, especially when the players/team themselves sometimes refer to themselves as that.
On February 03 2013 15:24 evilfatsh1t wrote: i dont really follow sc2 but wtf is happening with bisu all the skt LR threads ive seen over the past 128379123 years doesnt seem to have any bisu in it
'cause he sucks in SC2 so far
Not entirely true. He's 1 and 1 this season and had a decent run trying to make Code A. There is also a boxer interview saying he has actually trained up really well and should be out soon. So all the "he sucks" comments are just blemishing his name. He doesn't suck he just hasn't developed his skills over night.
Where is this interview you speak of? I hunger for news on Bisu.
they are the perfect amount of silliness and goofiness.
IM SO SICK of the western scene trying to make this shit so formal and serious. FFS they are VIDEO GAMES. We should never take this shit too seriously. I love esports as much as anyone, but we need to remember at the end of the day they are video games and we love them because they are not so real and serious...
Seriously they are so hilarious, and we finally get to see soooooo much personality in them, instead of boring interviews where they say "thanks for your supports" and thats it lol. These are hilarious seeing them all screw around and call eachother names and stuff. Love em.
On February 03 2013 17:43 MaestroSC wrote: LOVE these interviews.
they are the perfect amount of silliness and goofiness.
IM SO SICK of the western scene trying to make this shit so formal and serious. FFS they are VIDEO GAMES. We should never take this shit too seriously. I love esports as much as anyone, but we need to remember at the end of the day they are video games and we love them because they are not so real and serious...
Seriously they are so hilarious, and we finally get to see soooooo much personality in them, instead of boring interviews where they say "thanks for your supports" and thats it lol. These are hilarious seeing them all screw around and call eachother names and stuff. Love em.
Ugh dude your attitude is literally killing esports! How will we ever compete with League of Legends if you keep it up like this? How will we be able to bring esports into the mainstream for everyone to bask in its magnificent glory?
Don't you see that real sports are so professional and serious all the time?! How will they take esports seriously for the #1 most righteous, elite and best thing in the UNIVERSE that it is, if we aren't professional and serious? Do you want the scene to die out? Do you hate esports? gtfo nab.
CJ's herO is after RorO the second player this round to reach a 3-win streak (+1).
Fantasy losing both his regular game and the ace game scores negative points, which means that those who have him on their main team lose a point and those who have him on their anti team actually gain +1 point. Congratz!
On February 04 2013 00:47 Wingblade wrote: Lesson learned SKT... Next time youll play my boy Rain in the Ace Match, especially since he won his first game! Come on man.
On February 04 2013 00:47 Wingblade wrote: Lesson learned SKT... Next time youll play my boy Rain in the Ace Match, especially since he won his first game! Come on man.
I'm also disappointed by this
Fantasy is a fine choice considering Rain has been struggling a bit as of late. What would you have said if Rain had lost to herO? Oh, they should have fielded Fantasy. Shrug.
On February 03 2013 17:32 BigFan wrote: That was so painful to watch. Why didn't Fantasy lift his buildings and move them over? He just watched all of them go down. Did he forget he can lift them until only his cc and like 2 rax remained? ><
He was trying to trap herO's army by baiting him out further into his main.
herO managed the choke like a boss with his templar and fanta ran out of time and ghosts.
yeeeeeeeeeeah! Fantasy played pretty bad today, not sure why he didn't go for the base race, we didn't get to see herO's base, so maybe he had sentries/templars to block the choke if Fantasy decided to go in.
I'm out of this, this is just fucking bullshit, deep down we all know it. Thx for the time guys but I just can't watch this anymore.
I don't blame anyone, not even the guys at Blizzard (I'm sure they tried their best) but the fact that SC2 (at least WoL) doesn't have the required qualities to be a real "sport" is an evidence. It's so painful watching these talented players waste their time on this.
I know I'll get fucking destroyed for that, maybe I deserve it ^^ but I just can't stand what I see anymore.
On February 04 2013 06:57 ChApFoU wrote: I'm out of this, this is just fucking bullshit, deep down we all know it. Thx for the time guys but I just can't watch this anymore.
I don't blame anyone, not even the guys at Blizzard (I'm sure they tried their best) but the fact that SC2 (at least WoL) doesn't have the required qualities to be a real "sport" is an evidence. It's so painful watching these talented players waste their time on this.
I know I'll get fucking destroyed for that, maybe I deserve it ^^ but I just can't stand what I see anymore.
Agreed about painful to watch and at this point SKT could lose all their remaining games and set a "record" of loses. Nah SKT would lose same way if Boxer was main coach in BW. Point is - he doesn't have a good game plan for maps/match-ups etc and I said it long time ago when he ACED soO. Parting alone won't change things... Bisu could potentially change this, like he did for years in BW for SKT but he ain't even getting a chance to play under this coach.
I've never seen Fanta play so bad - he downgraded to Ssak's level in couple month.
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