Hey, random question... Are there templates for proleague live report threads? I watch it often, and I was thinking about starting one sometime just to try to help out some.. But i don't know my way around the bb code well enough to create this :D
On February 01 2013 14:58 nmetasch wrote: Hey, random question... Are there templates for proleague live report threads? I watch it often, and I was thinking about starting one sometime just to try to help out some.. But i don't know my way around the bb code well enough to create this :D
On February 01 2013 16:51 Locke- wrote: I feel like the official casters are improving and starting to really have a chemistry between them, which is really important.
I agree, and i'm reallly glad to see other people comment on it ))
On February 01 2013 16:44 samurai80 wrote: This build by P7GAB made me think for the first time that hallucination is almost OP for the price it costs.
It does seem OP when it works. However, it is a gamble because 1 Hallu = 2 FFs. And you need to make sure your opponents sees the Colo with something other than an overseer. Also, if they see like 4 colo + sentries + stalkers, they might know that you can't have that gas count. Plus if they are continously scouting you, they might not bite when they see 3-4 colo appear out of no where.
Looks good when it works but can also cost you games if your opponent knows whats up.
On February 01 2013 16:52 Devolved wrote: Can anyone text, tweet, or somehow let the casters know that their volume levels are off. The game sounds are way too loud and drown out their voices.
This has been very common all season. Game sounds and music inbetween games way too frickin loud..
On February 01 2013 17:09 nojok wrote: I've seen the two last minute of the game : 2 lings runby, nuke harass, drop harass, raven harass, viking harass Oo
not the highest quality of play but BaBy's seems way more refined than what he displayed the past weeks. At the same time Action's reaction looks delayed alot
On February 01 2013 17:09 Type|NarutO wrote: The proleague production is so good. Amazing. I really enjoy it.
This. I just hope the casters improve....... or hire new casters plz
Well proleague has nothing to do with bad casting as people say. I am talking about the commercials, camera shots of players during the games, catching emotion, graphics, overlays. Talking about the videos they use to fill time between games. I really enjoy those question/answers of the pros!
flash will die to a 1 collo fake into 2-2 zeal archon timing, if hes still alive beyond that point hell die to an ht transition. qft incoming in 20 mins
On February 01 2013 17:09 Type|NarutO wrote: The proleague production is so good. Amazing. I really enjoy it.
This. I just hope the casters improve....... or hire new casters plz
Well proleague has nothing to do with bad casting as people say. I am talking about the commercials, camera shots of players during the games, catching emotion, graphics, overlays. Talking about the videos they use to fill time between games. I really enjoy those question/answers of the pros!
can't say i like the commercials but the interviews with the players def very entertaining.
but as far as the games go, i find them entertaining... but could def use better casters. i guess they may be improving, but still annoying sometimse
On February 01 2013 17:09 Type|NarutO wrote: The proleague production is so good. Amazing. I really enjoy it.
This. I just hope the casters improve....... or hire new casters plz
The casters are improving. At an incredible rate. And many people have nice things to say about them. Band wagon more though...
These casters are fine, anyone who thinks that they are bad has obviously never been subjected to the aural terror that was Code A 2011. Consider yourselves blessed, y'all
On February 01 2013 17:09 Type|NarutO wrote: The proleague production is so good. Amazing. I really enjoy it.
This. I just hope the casters improve....... or hire new casters plz
The casters are improving. At an incredible rate. And many people have nice things to say about them. Band wagon more though...
These casters are fine, anyone who thinks that they are bad has obviously never been subjected to the aural terror that was Code A 2011. Consider yourselves blessed, y'all
lmao khaldor + moletrap probably the worst combo of all time.
Man that must be so frustrating. You lose so fast in SC2. He went from thinking he was playing well, to knowing that he could do nothing to win, in the course of about 30 seconds. eek
This build is actually Jjakji's version of MVP's 2 base 1-1-1 (MVP beat MC with it, but he expanded behind, Jjakji did it just like flash when he 3-0'd puzzle)
On February 01 2013 17:31 Tsubbi wrote: actually this looked like tvp from mvp when he was at his all time elo peak, remember a game like this where he imprisoned mc on antiga specifically
Wasn't that vs Huk? Was basically the same general idea in terms of build and gameplan though.
On February 01 2013 17:30 dreamseller wrote: seemed to be a bit scarce on the forcefields?
You dont want FFs vs tanks, offensive bunkers and banshees. Massive amount of chargelots and the rest a mix of immortals/archons/colossi (depending on tech route) is more of the correct composition.
On February 01 2013 17:31 Tsubbi wrote: actually this looked like tvp from mvp when he was at his all time elo peak, remember a game like this where he imprisoned mc on antiga specifically
Wasn't that vs Huk? Was basically the same general idea in terms of build and gameplan though.
On February 01 2013 17:09 Type|NarutO wrote: The proleague production is so good. Amazing. I really enjoy it.
This. I just hope the casters improve....... or hire new casters plz
The casters are improving. At an incredible rate. And many people have nice things to say about them. Band wagon more though...
These casters are fine, anyone who thinks that they are bad has obviously never been subjected to the aural terror that was Code A 2011. Consider yourselves blessed, y'all
U mean Moletrap? Well he was not that good, u are right. IMO these casters have more sense about the game but are less entertaining
On February 01 2013 17:30 CursOr wrote: Man that must be so frustrating. You lose so fast in SC2. He went from thinking he was playing well, to knowing that he could do nothing to win, in the course of about 30 seconds. eek
Yeah, that's one thing I've never been a fan of about SC2. You can make one mistake and have absolutely no chance of winning. In BW, there was always a chance to come back, even from multiple mistakes. But I wouldn't say that game was based off of a mistake. Flash simply outplayed him from start to finish.
On February 01 2013 17:09 Type|NarutO wrote: The proleague production is so good. Amazing. I really enjoy it.
This. I just hope the casters improve....... or hire new casters plz
The casters are improving. At an incredible rate. And many people have nice things to say about them. Band wagon more though...
These casters are fine, anyone who thinks that they are bad has obviously never been subjected to the aural terror that was Code A 2011. Consider yourselves blessed, y'all
U mean Moletrap? Well he was not that good, u are right. IMO these casters have more sense about the game but are less entertaining
They'd be fine if SNM would stop immediately shitting on whiplash's jokes. When he was saying the thing about the paint, he just totally put it down, making whiplish look an idiot. Whether it's funny or not, you just don't hang your casting partner out to dry like that.
On February 01 2013 17:31 Tsubbi wrote: actually this looked like tvp from mvp when he was at his all time elo peak, remember a game like this where he imprisoned mc on antiga specifically
Wasn't that vs Huk? Was basically the same general idea in terms of build and gameplan though.
No it was BO1 against MC i think.
This kind of 1-1-1 has been played over and over and over. Whoever on ladder is not going for the bomber build usually chooses to all-in you with this kind of build. Nothing new or special really, but interesting to see the kespa guys starting it now, too.
i wonder if argo could have walked around using the other exit, though he may get shot by one or two tanks. should only do shield damage. then hit flash's main. with one warp prism, he should get some probes out as well
Had Mind in my FPL team for 2 rounds, now they play him finally. Flash said he is the one practicing the hardest in KT. Go Mind, even if I won't get points now.
On February 01 2013 17:37 YourHarry wrote: i wonder if argo could have walked around using the other exit, though he may get shot by one or two tanks. should only do shield damage. then hit flash's main. with one warp prism, he should get some probes out as well
The problem with base races against terrans is that their buildings can fly. When it comes to basetrades, there are 2 very generic rules: -never baserace against terran -never baserace against mutalisks
Besides flying buildings flash had also a hidden startport und possibly tanks on the highground behind a wall. In the end the worst thing for argo was to push down like that. Either intercept him mid-map, go for the flank or be patient until you have the right units to deal with it. HerO did some great defenses against this with phoenix + chargelots + colossi.
On February 01 2013 17:46 wangstra wrote: I guess I don't understand how the lineup is set. Did one team pick a list of players to play and the other team gets to match players to each pick?
Kespa gives them a map list, each team picks a player to play on that map and tells kespa, then kespa announces the matchups a few days in advance so players can prepare, the teams don't know who the other picked until kespa says so. That way you get different metagame approaches to picking a player for a map, based on what you think your opponent will do etc.
On February 01 2013 17:46 wangstra wrote: I guess I don't understand how the lineup is set. Did one team pick a list of players to play and the other team gets to match players to each pick?
Maps are predetermined. Both teams submit their player for each map blind. Then the lineups are revealed.
On February 01 2013 17:46 wangstra wrote: I guess I don't understand how the lineup is set. Did one team pick a list of players to play and the other team gets to match players to each pick?
Both submit their lineups without knowing what their opponent picks then it gets announced 1-3 days before the games start
On February 01 2013 17:46 wangstra wrote: I guess I don't understand how the lineup is set. Did one team pick a list of players to play and the other team gets to match players to each pick?
The two teams know the map order and blind pick who they want to send out on each map. After that they get to see the matchups so they can prepare.
On February 01 2013 17:31 totauksz wrote: This build is actually Jjakji's version of MVP's 2 base 1-1-1 (MVP beat MC with it, but he expanded behind, Jjakji did it just like flash when he 3-0'd puzzle)
I didn't catch the game, but is it the tank/bunker contain with banshees/elevator?
On February 01 2013 17:30 CursOr wrote: Man that must be so frustrating. You lose so fast in SC2. He went from thinking he was playing well, to knowing that he could do nothing to win, in the course of about 30 seconds. eek
Yeah, that's one thing I've never been a fan of about SC2. You can make one mistake and have absolutely no chance of winning. In BW, there was always a chance to come back, even from multiple mistakes. But I wouldn't say that game was based off of a mistake. Flash simply outplayed him from start to finish.
I hate that too: instead of wearing down an opponent now, outplaying him on many levels (micro, macro, harassement) it sometimes occures (a lot of times actually) that i don't pay attention to minimap for 1 sec or someting and lose to a counter allin/doomdrop or whatever although I was so much in front. Maybe this will get figured out the next 5 yrs :D
but then again: I am a bad player so what do I know. Only thing I know it looks the same on the Pro-League streams as well so at least THIS is something that is the same for the Pro-Players
On February 01 2013 17:31 totauksz wrote: This build is actually Jjakji's version of MVP's 2 base 1-1-1 (MVP beat MC with it, but he expanded behind, Jjakji did it just like flash when he 3-0'd puzzle)
I didn't catch the game, but is it the tank/bunker contain with banshees/elevator?
nope, it was mech vs. bio but Cure caught Mind's banshee and did some early eco damage with his hellions unless something else happened earlier and I missed it
On February 01 2013 17:30 CursOr wrote: Man that must be so frustrating. You lose so fast in SC2. He went from thinking he was playing well, to knowing that he could do nothing to win, in the course of about 30 seconds. eek
Yeah, that's one thing I've never been a fan of about SC2. You can make one mistake and have absolutely no chance of winning. In BW, there was always a chance to come back, even from multiple mistakes. But I wouldn't say that game was based off of a mistake. Flash simply outplayed him from start to finish.
In BW it can cost you a misclick to lose a game too, it heavily depends on the situation and the level of players.
On February 01 2013 17:37 YourHarry wrote: i wonder if argo could have walked around using the other exit, though he may get shot by one or two tanks. should only do shield damage. then hit flash's main. with one warp prism, he should get some probes out as well
The problem with base races against terrans is that their buildings can fly. When it comes to basetrades, there are 2 very generic rules: -never baserace against terran -never baserace against mutalisks
Besides flying buildings flash had also a hidden startport und possibly tanks on the highground behind a wall. In the end the worst thing for argo was to push down like that. Either intercept him mid-map, go for the flank or be patient until you have the right units to deal with it. HerO did some great defenses against this with phoenix + chargelots + colossi.
On February 01 2013 17:46 wangstra wrote: I guess I don't understand how the lineup is set. Did one team pick a list of players to play and the other team gets to match players to each pick?
Kespa gives them a map list, each team picks a player to play on that map and tells kespa, then kespa announces the matchups a few days in advance so players can prepare, the teams don't know who the other picked until kespa says so. That way you get different metagame approaches to picking a player for a map, based on what you think your opponent will do etc.
On February 01 2013 17:58 ThePhan2m wrote: I just woke up, how was the Flash vs Jaehoon game?
Flash did a good timing push off two bases, heavily contained Argo with bunkers and a lot of scvs. Basically if Argo broke that, it would be a GG for Flash. So it was a sort of allin attack.
On February 01 2013 17:46 wangstra wrote: I guess I don't understand how the lineup is set. Did one team pick a list of players to play and the other team gets to match players to each pick?
Kespa gives them a map list, each team picks a player to play on that map and tells kespa, then kespa announces the matchups a few days in advance so players can prepare, the teams don't know who the other picked until kespa says so. That way you get different metagame approaches to picking a player for a map, based on what you think your opponent will do etc.
On February 01 2013 17:30 CursOr wrote: Man that must be so frustrating. You lose so fast in SC2. He went from thinking he was playing well, to knowing that he could do nothing to win, in the course of about 30 seconds. eek
Yeah, that's one thing I've never been a fan of about SC2. You can make one mistake and have absolutely no chance of winning. In BW, there was always a chance to come back, even from multiple mistakes. But I wouldn't say that game was based off of a mistake. Flash simply outplayed him from start to finish.
In BW it can cost you a misclick to lose a game too, it heavily depends on the situation and the level of players.
Yes, that is true. But there are more of these situations in SC2 compare with BW due to the higher dps, clumped units, miss forcefields, deathballs.
On February 01 2013 17:37 YourHarry wrote: i wonder if argo could have walked around using the other exit, though he may get shot by one or two tanks. should only do shield damage. then hit flash's main. with one warp prism, he should get some probes out as well
The problem with base races against terrans is that their buildings can fly. When it comes to basetrades, there are 2 very generic rules: -never baserace against terran -never baserace against mutalisks
Besides flying buildings flash had also a hidden startport und possibly tanks on the highground behind a wall. In the end the worst thing for argo was to push down like that. Either intercept him mid-map, go for the flank or be patient until you have the right units to deal with it. HerO did some great defenses against this with phoenix + chargelots + colossi.
On February 01 2013 17:58 ThePhan2m wrote: I just woke up, how was the Flash vs Jaehoon game?
Flash did a good timing push off two bases, heavily contained Argo with bunkers and a lot of scvs. Basically if Argo broke that, it would be a GG for Flash. So it was a sort of allin attack.
I t was kinda a safe way to seal the deal since he killed 15 probes with proxy cloak banshees and Argo was already behind.
On February 01 2013 17:30 CursOr wrote: Man that must be so frustrating. You lose so fast in SC2. He went from thinking he was playing well, to knowing that he could do nothing to win, in the course of about 30 seconds. eek
Yeah, that's one thing I've never been a fan of about SC2. You can make one mistake and have absolutely no chance of winning. In BW, there was always a chance to come back, even from multiple mistakes. But I wouldn't say that game was based off of a mistake. Flash simply outplayed him from start to finish.
In BW it can cost you a misclick to lose a game too, it heavily depends on the situation and the level of players.
Yes, that is true. But there are more of these situations in SC2 compare with BW due to the higher dps, clumped units, miss forcefields, deathballs.
SC2 game pace is very fast and dynamic, so if a game ends because of a misclick or inattention after 20min its kinda, nah! Probably one of the most irritating factors for me as a spectator.
vikings by Flash, he took a guess that colossi will come out lol. Sad that Flash lost but ya, 4 immortals+chargelots+storms against marauders heavy army, not gonna be pretty lol.
On February 01 2013 17:17 ROOTT1 wrote: flash will die to a 1 collo fake into 2-2 zeal archon timing, if hes still alive beyond that point hell die to an ht transition. qft incoming in 20 mins
Such greedy play by Argo. On the minimap, flash had an scv ready to scout behind the bushes on the top of the third. Why didnt you check your opponents build flash...
Flash always loose to cheeses (greedy plays or ultra agressive plays). Rarely loose in a straight up macro game.
On February 01 2013 19:09 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: Holy shit.
Jaehoon becomes a real contender for the best PL player. Never thought that would happen xD
In the last BW PL, he was one of the best protoss
*High Five* The last BW PL was really a miracle year for Jaehoon. Too bad it was also MBC's last season. Ah, that was a bittersweet year. ㅠㅠ
It used to break my heart to see you cry mantears over the loss of your favorite team back then. On top of that the poor performance of the supposed dream team in the PL season afterwards.
Seeing Captain Jaehoon perform this well now almost feels like redemption.
EPT
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