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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
January 29 2013 10:05 GMT
#421
On January 29 2013 19:03 Snusmumriken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 29 2013 18:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
if ryung does not win this

IMBA IMBA IMBA would be justified.


Not at all.

LosirA is playing a really good strategy but Ryung is hanging in this. LosirA isnt giving Ryung a chance to go on offense though and if he cant go on offense he'll eventually starve out.


Ryung had a huge build-order advantage. He had his third finished before losira even started his. Doesnt matter.


But LosirA had his 4th and 5th bases done and Ryung could never secure a third mining base.

If you're going to press your 3rd base advantage you have to keep the Zerg on a maximum of 4 bases while pressuring THEM. LosirA was the one doing all the pressure. Ryung could never go on offense. Whenever he'd move out LosirA would kill an army while not losing all of his Ultralisks which just allowed him to keep expanding and keep making Banelings and Infestors.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 29 2013 10:05 GMT
#422
On January 29 2013 19:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Poll: Recommend Ryung vs LosirA game 2?

Yes (48)
 
83%

No (6)
 
10%

If you have time (4)
 
7%

58 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Ryung vs LosirA game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



It's not often a ZvT where the Zerg wins in a long macro game gets this many yes votes.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
January 29 2013 10:05 GMT
#423
Bring back the viking video!!

I've seen this so many times :/
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
January 29 2013 10:05 GMT
#424
Positional play is just useless in zvt. It's a fast paced matchup where you HAVE to hit the Z hard in the midgame to have a chance. this 3cc shit never turns out well for Terran.

That why bogus (Innovation) did so well. You HAVE to hit a 2 base timing that wins you the game.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 29 2013 10:05 GMT
#425
On January 29 2013 19:00 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 18:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 29 2013 18:57 nomyx wrote:
Ryung with 2400+ gas, is this normal for terrans?


When going bio? Absolutely.

terrans should ts3 transition to raven when they have do much gas in bank. I met on the ladder a terran building ravens with his gas and it was absurdly strong.


Ravens against ultras? Dont think so. But if he transitioned to broodlord corruptor, that could work. But again, raven is 100/200 so you still need minerals, and Ryung was starving for minerals in that game, so he couldn't really afford making starports and ravens.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#426
On January 29 2013 19:05 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Poll: Recommend Ryung vs LosirA game 2?

Yes (48)
 
83%

No (6)
 
10%

If you have time (4)
 
7%

58 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Ryung vs LosirA game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



It's not often a ZvT where the Zerg wins in a long macro game gets this many yes votes.


Haha, i know right. The lack of broodlords is probably what influenced that.
Windows 7
Profile Joined December 2010
United States236 Posts
January 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#427
On January 29 2013 19:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:03 mrRoflpwn wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:01 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 29 2013 18:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
if ryung does not win this

IMBA IMBA IMBA would be justified.


Not at all.

LosirA is playing a really good strategy but Ryung is hanging in this. LosirA isnt giving Ryung a chance to go on offense though and if he cant go on offense he'll eventually starve out.


But what is terran supposed to do against this creep.

are you serious? creep op?


Next level balance whiners!


No you explain me. How ryung shoud have done this. Where he has gone wrong. I am trying to understand what happend.


I feel like he was limited by his unit composition. Marine marauder tank seems fine against queen ultra on paper, but like Tastosis said, those ultras just didn't die. Theorycrafting here but perhaps ghosts would have been able to counter that composition?
FC
Boiler Bandsman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States391 Posts
January 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#428
On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:01 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 29 2013 18:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
if ryung does not win this

IMBA IMBA IMBA would be justified.


Not at all.

LosirA is playing a really good strategy but Ryung is hanging in this. LosirA isnt giving Ryung a chance to go on offense though and if he cant go on offense he'll eventually starve out.


But what is terran supposed to do against this creep.

are you serious? creep op?


The queen buff has led to it getting to insane levels.

Before that, you had to husband queen energy for injects and you would have no more than a handful of active tumors.

Now, with large-number queen builds, you have energy to spare (witness all those transfuses) so you have dozens upon dozens of tumors. The only limit is your APM, and Losira's got no troubles there.
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
January 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#429
this scene makes me sad
poor kerrigan
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
January 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#430
On January 29 2013 19:05 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:03 Snusmumriken wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 29 2013 18:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
if ryung does not win this

IMBA IMBA IMBA would be justified.


Not at all.

LosirA is playing a really good strategy but Ryung is hanging in this. LosirA isnt giving Ryung a chance to go on offense though and if he cant go on offense he'll eventually starve out.


Ryung had a huge build-order advantage. He had his third finished before losira even started his. Doesnt matter.


But LosirA had his 4th and 5th bases done and Ryung could never secure a third mining base.

If you're going to press your 3rd base advantage you have to keep the Zerg on a maximum of 4 bases while pressuring THEM. LosirA was the one doing all the pressure. Ryung could never go on offense. Whenever he'd move out LosirA would kill an army while not losing all of his Ultralisks which just allowed him to keep expanding and keep making Banelings and Infestors.


GL on pressuring Z with creep down your pants.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
tylerf
Profile Joined March 2012
739 Posts
January 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#431
Belay that order!
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
January 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#432
On January 29 2013 19:04 GreyKnight wrote:
Ryung couldnt deal with the creep, he could've definitely taken that game given how wasteful losira was


Ryung needs more drops, and defensively take bases with lots of building walls. I think that should break Losira's style.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 10:08:52
January 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#433
Losira deserves props for always having a unique style. He's never ever been some cookie cutter zerg, though even if he does go broodlord/infestor vs Parting or something in the winner's match I'll forgive him. The guy just always finds HIS way to play, and I love it.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Buchan
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada184 Posts
January 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#434
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#435
On January 29 2013 19:05 Douillos wrote:
Positional play is just useless in zvt. It's a fast paced matchup where you HAVE to hit the Z hard in the midgame to have a chance. this 3cc shit never turns out well for Terran.

That why bogus (Innovation) did so well. You HAVE to hit a 2 base timing that wins you the game.


Other than some unscouted all in, I dont remember watching 2 base timings winning the game. You are basically forced into playing greedy macro
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
January 29 2013 10:07 GMT
#436
Mengsk is such a douchbag.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
January 29 2013 10:07 GMT
#437
On January 29 2013 18:17 TheBB wrote:
 (2212) Ryung 0-0 LosirA (2014)
---------------------------------------
33.22% 2-0 0-2 17.95%
28.15% 2-1 1-2 20.69%
---------------------------------------
61.36% 38.64%

Median outcome
Ryung 2-1 LosirA
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.


17.95% for 2-0 losira? I believe...
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 29 2013 10:07 GMT
#438
On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:01 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 29 2013 18:58 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
if ryung does not win this

IMBA IMBA IMBA would be justified.


Not at all.

LosirA is playing a really good strategy but Ryung is hanging in this. LosirA isnt giving Ryung a chance to go on offense though and if he cant go on offense he'll eventually starve out.


But what is terran supposed to do against this creep.

are you serious? creep op?


Have you ever played against someone who has almost complete map vision and increased speed on every important part of the map`?
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 29 2013 10:07 GMT
#439
On January 29 2013 19:03 negativedge wrote:
losira is pretty boss in ZvT

Yea, engage 5 times into chokes and around corners against an army that should (and normally does) counter yours. I'm sure that's how ZvT is meant to be played. These 2 games look completely phoned in by Losira, but I guess that's all that has to be done these days.
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
January 29 2013 10:07 GMT
#440
What is this, WCS?

BELAY THAT ORDER
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
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