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lespostea
Profile Joined May 2010
United States256 Posts
January 26 2013 05:42 GMT
#581
Pantaji!
kcaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada387 Posts
January 26 2013 05:42 GMT
#582
On January 26 2013 14:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:40 kcaz wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:39 kcaz wrote:
Is Parting available?

not until HoTS (round 4)


Source?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393218
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PartinG, who will be eligible to participate in Proleague starting from Round 4 will allow SK Telecom T1 to potentially have a vantage point over any other team in their race for the top spot.


tyty <3 so fast!
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 05:43:32
January 26 2013 05:42 GMT
#583
On January 26 2013 14:40 kcaz wrote:
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On January 26 2013 14:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:39 kcaz wrote:
Is Parting available?

not until HoTS (round 4)


Source?

Lol Shellshock is reliable. It's almost insulting to ask him for source. Just search TL at least if you don't trust him.

But to be helpful all I did was click community news. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393218
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Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
January 26 2013 05:43 GMT
#584
On January 26 2013 14:42 Proseat wrote:
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On January 26 2013 14:39 slowbacontron wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:37 Emzeeshady wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:34 sinigang wrote:
Wow, I can't wait for Flash to get his first OSL gold. GSL gold would be ok too but not as much

there is no OSL for SC2 plus GSL is still more important.

There is a SC2 OSL but after the first season it took a rather long break, it's coming back soon.

Doa confirmed on SotG last night that OSL will be back in April with HotS.


Oh really? Made my day:D
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
January 26 2013 05:43 GMT
#585
On January 26 2013 14:38 bankobauss wrote:
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On January 26 2013 14:34 sharkeyanti wrote:
So Flash dominated both those games because he sacrificed his Vikings to take out the Colossi. Is that something good Protosses fall to?


flash is abusing the protoss weakness to vikings that most protosses have at this timing due to their build


step 1) engage protoss army with your entire army

step 2) run away your bio, but leave vikings killing collossi

step 3) the stalkers kill all your vikings, BUt the vikings kill all the collossi. then you are left with bio which rapes gateway armies

step 4) because bio runs faster than collossi (collossi cannot get off shots) and because vikings are faster than collossi (collossi cant run away) this ENSURES that step 3 takes place. In the end you get a scenario where the collossi die without ever dealing any damage



the only way to protoss to really beat and counter this is to SLOWDOWN their tech to storm / templars and overproduce collossi and get 200food of stalker/collossi BEFORE even thinking about storm. Overproduce collossi so when the vikings sacrifice themself some collossi will survive, get 200food of stalkers so the stalkers kill the vikings quickly



best teched to templars too quickly, which is why he lost



There's that, but this also has the added benefit that they need to over make Vikings making the inevitable Zealot, Templar warp in that much stronger. Best didn't have storm at all in that fight though.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
January 26 2013 05:43 GMT
#586
On January 26 2013 14:42 LighT. wrote:
Rofl that cut between T8 was great!


Can someone link the video of that?

"I know but" :D
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 05:44:09
January 26 2013 05:43 GMT
#587
On January 26 2013 14:42 vthree wrote:
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On January 26 2013 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:34 Dodgin wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:32 CebusFinest wrote:
Serious question

who has best macro on SC2

Flash or Bomber?

Poll: Macro

Flash (43)
 
67%

Bomber (21)
 
33%

64 total votes

Your vote: Macro

(Vote): Flash
(Vote): Bomber



Poll isn't going to be accurate because of the thread It's in.

It's bomber though.


I've seen both play, Flash has better macro.


And judging by your team icon, you aren't going to be slightly bias, right?


I've shat on flash so many times that some people wonder if I'm really a KT fan let alone the loudest.
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nmetasch
Profile Joined April 2012
United States600 Posts
January 26 2013 05:44 GMT
#588
On January 26 2013 14:40 kcaz wrote:
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On January 26 2013 14:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:39 kcaz wrote:
Is Parting available?

not until HoTS (round 4)


Source?


Kespa. When they announced that parting had joined a kespa team and agreed to the terms.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
January 26 2013 05:44 GMT
#589
They are both my favourite players, but I am leaning towards FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ho ho ho ho ho ho
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bankobauss
Profile Joined December 2012
204 Posts
January 26 2013 05:44 GMT
#590
On January 26 2013 14:43 Havik_ wrote:
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On January 26 2013 14:38 bankobauss wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:34 sharkeyanti wrote:
So Flash dominated both those games because he sacrificed his Vikings to take out the Colossi. Is that something good Protosses fall to?


flash is abusing the protoss weakness to vikings that most protosses have at this timing due to their build


step 1) engage protoss army with your entire army

step 2) run away your bio, but leave vikings killing collossi

step 3) the stalkers kill all your vikings, BUt the vikings kill all the collossi. then you are left with bio which rapes gateway armies

step 4) because bio runs faster than collossi (collossi cannot get off shots) and because vikings are faster than collossi (collossi cant run away) this ENSURES that step 3 takes place. In the end you get a scenario where the collossi die without ever dealing any damage



the only way to protoss to really beat and counter this is to SLOWDOWN their tech to storm / templars and overproduce collossi and get 200food of stalker/collossi BEFORE even thinking about storm. Overproduce collossi so when the vikings sacrifice themself some collossi will survive, get 200food of stalkers so the stalkers kill the vikings quickly



best teched to templars too quickly, which is why he lost



There's that, but this also has the added benefit that they need to over make Vikings making the inevitable Zealot, Templar warp in that much stronger. Best didn't have storm at all in that fight though.


i guess if the toss is super greedy and gets a ridic fast storm he can beat it too... pretty much the terran player needs to know when the templar archives go down then just attack at a timing when he knows storm is 20-30 seconds away
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
January 26 2013 05:44 GMT
#591
fanta looks stoned, what happened to him? and his skin is glowing...
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
January 26 2013 05:45 GMT
#592
[SPL] KT Rolster vs SK Telecom T1
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Flash vs Fantasy
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sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
January 26 2013 05:45 GMT
#593
On January 26 2013 14:36 Scarecrow wrote:
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On January 26 2013 14:34 sharkeyanti wrote:
So Flash dominated both those games because he sacrificed his Vikings to take out the Colossi. Is that something good Protosses fall to?

You're oversimplifying it. It's more his macro and how good flash's build lines up so he hits at a timing with a unit comp and upgrades that seems to crush collossus based compositions.


Agreed, I was oversimplifying. But when a player takes two similar engagements and ends up 40 supply ahead early in the game it seems curious. I guess if we see it a few more times from Flash against other PL people it'll mean something.
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
January 26 2013 05:45 GMT
#594
On January 26 2013 14:43 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:42 LighT. wrote:
Rofl that cut between T8 was great!


Can someone link the video of that?

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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
January 26 2013 05:45 GMT
#595
On January 26 2013 14:38 Sabu113 wrote:
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On January 26 2013 14:35 Thinasy wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:34 sharkeyanti wrote:
So Flash dominated both those games because he sacrificed his Vikings to take out the Colossi. Is that something good Protosses fall to?


Flash's style isnt something i've seen that much though, cause he just builds like 4 medivacs and then just spams out vikings to suicide em and then rely on quite few stims to kill the rest of the protoss army


Scarecrow is on the money but protoss is a very powerunit heavy race. Remove those powerunits and everything melts.


His opponents are also playing into his builds a little. Paralyze made blink and colo before starting double forge as late as 10 minutes. He was getting blink expecting to either catch out Flash's army or if flash does a drop. Neither occured, so flash is ahead for free. Best is playing 3 gate > robo after expansion vs 1 rax 3 CC which is really what you want your opponent to do as Terran.

Though flash IS making 3 bunkers default so........... ok? Flash is well covered against a lot of angles.

And yes, if you can trade your vikings for his colossus without them shooting your bio that much, particularly if you have equal upgrades and P lacks templar, that's super duper good for Terran.
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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
January 26 2013 05:46 GMT
#596
On January 26 2013 14:42 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:34 Dodgin wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:32 CebusFinest wrote:
Serious question

who has best macro on SC2

Flash or Bomber?

Poll: Macro

Flash (43)
 
67%

Bomber (21)
 
33%

64 total votes

Your vote: Macro

(Vote): Flash
(Vote): Bomber



Poll isn't going to be accurate because of the thread It's in.

It's bomber though.


I've seen both play, Flash has better macro.


And judging by your team icon, you aren't going to be slightly bias, right?

Team icon doesn't matter, Flash's macro is the best we've seen since Mvp was annihilating everyone back in 2011.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 26 2013 05:46 GMT
#597
On January 26 2013 14:38 bankobauss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:34 sharkeyanti wrote:
So Flash dominated both those games because he sacrificed his Vikings to take out the Colossi. Is that something good Protosses fall to?


flash is abusing the protoss weakness to vikings that most protosses have at this timing due to their build


step 1) engage protoss army with your entire army

step 2) run away your bio, but leave vikings killing collossi

step 3) the stalkers kill all your vikings, BUt the vikings kill all the collossi. then you are left with bio which rapes gateway armies

step 4) because bio runs faster than collossi (collossi cannot get off shots) and because vikings are faster than collossi (collossi cant run away) this ENSURES that step 3 takes place. In the end you get a scenario where the collossi die without ever dealing any damage



the only way to protoss to really beat and counter this is to SLOWDOWN their tech to storm / templars and overproduce collossi and get 200food of stalker/collossi BEFORE even thinking about storm. Overproduce collossi so when the vikings sacrifice themself some collossi will survive, get 200food of stalkers so the stalkers kill the vikings quickly



best teched to templars too quickly, which is why he lost


Most Protoss get around this by using FFs so as to at least kill off some of the bio.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46484 Posts
January 26 2013 05:46 GMT
#598
On January 26 2013 14:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On January 26 2013 14:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Someone needs to stop Flash -.-'


former T1 fans have no say.


I'm still a T1 fan; there's just no EG-T1 icon on TeamLiquid yet!
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19391 Posts
January 26 2013 05:47 GMT
#599
On January 26 2013 14:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 14:42 vthree wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:34 Dodgin wrote:
On January 26 2013 14:32 CebusFinest wrote:
Serious question

who has best macro on SC2

Flash or Bomber?

Poll: Macro

Flash (43)
 
67%

Bomber (21)
 
33%

64 total votes

Your vote: Macro

(Vote): Flash
(Vote): Bomber



Poll isn't going to be accurate because of the thread It's in.

It's bomber though.


I've seen both play, Flash has better macro.


And judging by your team icon, you aren't going to be slightly bias, right?


I've shat on flash so many times that some people wonder if I'm really a KT fan let alone the loudest.

Lol, Blindrawr is not a KT fan....nah.

...checks Quote....


oh wait!!!!!! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=284002
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Phantom_Sky
Profile Joined August 2010
Hong Kong512 Posts
January 26 2013 05:47 GMT
#600
boxer so handsome
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