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Usual rules apply. Balance whine will be moderated harshly.
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
January 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#3321
On January 27 2013 04:09 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 04:07 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On January 27 2013 04:06 neggro wrote:
who is the translator


he works for SK gaming
and is head of KSL


Speaking of KSL, when's that tournament gonna start again?


I miss KSL so much, top level games in a rapid fire orb ESL style. Good old days.

I liked his Korean casts. He solo casted all of the games, pointed out significant stuff, current trends, and his opinion on the strength of it.
In terms of density of games and quality of the players it was better than GSTL.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 19:21:26
January 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#3322
lifes gas is fucked up, 6 drones in 1 gas in his main

ah he fixed it, thank god
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
January 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#3323
DRG standard lair
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 19:22:08
January 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#3324
Yay, Muta vs Muta battles are great.

Welp, guess I got it wrong.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
January 26 2013 19:21 GMT
#3325
spire after fast lair wow
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 26 2013 19:22 GMT
#3326
--- Nuked ---
polishedturd
Profile Joined October 2010
United States505 Posts
January 26 2013 19:22 GMT
#3327
On January 27 2013 04:20 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 04:18 WigglingSquid wrote:
On January 27 2013 04:15 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On January 27 2013 04:13 Frankon wrote:
Time for IronSquid III announcement.


During a ro16 or ro8 cast, Pomf said they were losing money with the tournament and this edition might be the last one.

That would be terrible. T___T



Yeah, such a sick production must cost quite a lot though. They should charge for the HD stream, a lot of people would support them, Iron Squid is much more than your average sc2 tournament.


or maybe they shouldnt do extravagant dumb shit like hire a live orchestra if they are running out of money
http://i.imgur.com/EbrnM.jpg
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
January 26 2013 19:22 GMT
#3328
overseer already
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
January 26 2013 19:22 GMT
#3329
why am I watching this zvz instead of playing PoE? Production quality
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
January 26 2013 19:22 GMT
#3330
On January 27 2013 04:06 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 04:01 Kasaraki wrote:
On January 27 2013 03:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On January 27 2013 03:49 decado90 wrote:
On January 27 2013 03:44 Heartland wrote:
What can be so weird about Starcraft is that for a few months you can watch someone who seems unbeatable. I mean, there was a time when MKP was one of the greatest. Now he just feels like a punching bag.



A lot of Terran's TvZ went to the shitter after the queen buff.


MKP in an interview said that his TvZ winrate in practice dropped to 10%. He's never fully recovered.

When his TvZ was unbeatable he utilized a lot of early pressure and capitalized on his superior micro: combat shield timings, marine helion banshee pressure, 2 rax, etc. None of those builds are viable anymore.


honestly I was never impressed with his TvZ. Just feels like he's ridiculously greedy without the cerebral aspect of Flash, Bomber or MVP to get away with it consistently. Pretty good if he manages to get rolling though. It's why Symbol 3-0'd him last Iron Squid before the queen patch.


The terran players who are still good today, like Mvp and TaeJa, are all great thinkers, able to reinvent themselves, all having great decisionmaking.


MVP yes, but Taeja no. I've never been impressed with Taeja and he was only good for 2 months last summer. Life is 7-0 against taeja recently and hero is like 7-0 against him too. MKP's tvz is terribad these days, but taeja's isn't any better, but mkp's tvp is far superior than taeja who has always had bad tvp. MKP destroyed hero in iron squid, and taeja has gotten dominated by hero a lot recently with the games not even being close. MKP has always been the better player than taeja and still is today, it's just he loses all his tvz but still wins tvp and tvp pretty well.


Bad analysis, but you can feel free to not be impressed with TaeJa. But his TvZ is still good, he's won plenty of TvZ even after being dominated by Life. Life is barely even zerg, he's something else far more dangerous... Ignoring his meetings with Life, since he lost to Life in GSL he's 29-11 against non-Life zergs. That's a pretty good winrate....
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
January 26 2013 19:23 GMT
#3331
On January 27 2013 04:21 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 04:09 Lorning wrote:
On January 27 2013 04:07 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On January 27 2013 04:06 neggro wrote:
who is the translator


he works for SK gaming
and is head of KSL


Speaking of KSL, when's that tournament gonna start again?


I miss KSL so much, top level games in a rapid fire orb ESL style. Good old days.

I liked his Korean casts. He solo casted all of the games, pointed out significant stuff, current trends, and his opinion on the strength of it.
In terms of density of games and quality of the players it was better than GSTL.

Orb casting was always top-notch. He might've been a dick and an asshole outside of casting/ on ladder, but he sure as hell knows his SC2. His casting of the IPL TAC3 finals was great
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
January 26 2013 19:23 GMT
#3332
gogo drg!
Amove for Aiur
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
January 26 2013 19:23 GMT
#3333
ok here goes
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 26 2013 19:23 GMT
#3334
On January 27 2013 04:22 polishedturd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 04:20 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On January 27 2013 04:18 WigglingSquid wrote:
On January 27 2013 04:15 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On January 27 2013 04:13 Frankon wrote:
Time for IronSquid III announcement.


During a ro16 or ro8 cast, Pomf said they were losing money with the tournament and this edition might be the last one.

That would be terrible. T___T



Yeah, such a sick production must cost quite a lot though. They should charge for the HD stream, a lot of people would support them, Iron Squid is much more than your average sc2 tournament.


or maybe they shouldnt do extravagant dumb shit like hire a live orchestra if they are running out of money


That's what makes Iron Squid what it is. If they didn't have all these things it wouldn't be the same.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 26 2013 19:24 GMT
#3335
On January 27 2013 04:17 neoghaleon55 wrote:
omg life DRG
I'm so nervous


You and me both, bro T_T
AdministratorBreak the chains
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
January 26 2013 19:24 GMT
#3336
drg infestors
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
January 26 2013 19:24 GMT
#3337
On January 27 2013 04:22 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 04:06 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 27 2013 04:01 Kasaraki wrote:
On January 27 2013 03:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On January 27 2013 03:49 decado90 wrote:
On January 27 2013 03:44 Heartland wrote:
What can be so weird about Starcraft is that for a few months you can watch someone who seems unbeatable. I mean, there was a time when MKP was one of the greatest. Now he just feels like a punching bag.



A lot of Terran's TvZ went to the shitter after the queen buff.


MKP in an interview said that his TvZ winrate in practice dropped to 10%. He's never fully recovered.

When his TvZ was unbeatable he utilized a lot of early pressure and capitalized on his superior micro: combat shield timings, marine helion banshee pressure, 2 rax, etc. None of those builds are viable anymore.


honestly I was never impressed with his TvZ. Just feels like he's ridiculously greedy without the cerebral aspect of Flash, Bomber or MVP to get away with it consistently. Pretty good if he manages to get rolling though. It's why Symbol 3-0'd him last Iron Squid before the queen patch.


The terran players who are still good today, like Mvp and TaeJa, are all great thinkers, able to reinvent themselves, all having great decisionmaking.


MVP yes, but Taeja no. I've never been impressed with Taeja and he was only good for 2 months last summer. Life is 7-0 against taeja recently and hero is like 7-0 against him too. MKP's tvz is terribad these days, but taeja's isn't any better, but mkp's tvp is far superior than taeja who has always had bad tvp. MKP destroyed hero in iron squid, and taeja has gotten dominated by hero a lot recently with the games not even being close. MKP has always been the better player than taeja and still is today, it's just he loses all his tvz but still wins tvp and tvp pretty well.


Bad analysis, but you can feel free to not be impressed with TaeJa. But his TvZ is still good, he's won plenty of TvZ even after being dominated by Life. Life is barely even zerg, he's something else far more dangerous... Ignoring his meetings with Life, since he lost to Life in GSL he's 29-11 against non-Life zergs. That's a pretty good winrate....

You should worry less about his tvz and more on his tvp
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 26 2013 19:25 GMT
#3338
--- Nuked ---
xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
January 26 2013 19:25 GMT
#3339
they should bring back muta stacking
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
January 26 2013 19:25 GMT
#3340
On January 27 2013 04:21 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 04:09 Lorning wrote:
On January 27 2013 04:07 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On January 27 2013 04:06 neggro wrote:
who is the translator


he works for SK gaming
and is head of KSL


Speaking of KSL, when's that tournament gonna start again?


I miss KSL so much, top level games in a rapid fire orb ESL style. Good old days.

I liked his Korean casts. He solo casted all of the games, pointed out significant stuff, current trends, and his opinion on the strength of it.
In terms of density of games and quality of the players it was better than GSTL.

KSL was very nice, but I am not expecting it to make a comeback anytime soon. The FXO Open invitationals and the EWM also died a silent death. If the current conditions of the eSF is of any indication, it will likely be harder than ever to fetch sponsors for small weeklies who gather a couple of thousands of viewers.
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