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On January 20 2013 04:35 iamahydralisk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 04:30 totauksz wrote:Kas is a much much much better player than Socke, sad that he didn't won  Posts like this always rustle my jimmies. We just saw them play a bo5 head to head series. Socke won. And Socke was first in his group. How exactly is Kas a "much much much better player?" It's comments like this that lower eSports credibility as a "real" sport because in sports like soccer, baseball, basketball, American football, etc... You never hear "team x is still much better even though they just lost to team y." Instead, you hear "team y was the better team and team x got beat." No excuses.
That's just not true at all.
I don't agree Kas is a better player (I'd say they are about equal), but a team/player that is very good can lose to a team/player that is worse than they are and still be considered better.
For example, it's not abnormal for the one of the best teams in basketball, say the Miami Heat, to lose to one of the worst teams, like the Washington Wizards. If the Wizards beat Miami, everyone would still think Miami was the better team, they just had a bad game.
So, you're wrong, you do hear things like "team x is still much better even though they just lost to team y" in other sports. It's called an 'upset'.
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Kas lost, but maybe Goody will take the EWM Grand Final today as he just made it through the semis
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On January 20 2013 04:46 freerolll wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 04:44 DiMano wrote:On January 20 2013 04:43 freerolll wrote:On January 20 2013 04:42 DiMano wrote:On January 20 2013 04:41 freerolll wrote: YoDa is the darkhorse of this tournement but actualy the best player left! The best is First then YoDa then PartinG. No Way MVP himself said that YoDa is the best LG-IM player! The best IM Terran player. If MVP says someone is better then him then I give that player automaticly top 3 of the world........... MVP says everyone else in the world is better than him except MKP lol
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Haha, Mana calling TLO a patch zerg =). Such a cute little jab ^_^, good to see they're friendly and relaxed enough to make jokes
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On January 20 2013 05:08 scypio wrote:Kas lost, but maybe Goody will take the EWM Grand Final today as he just made it through the semis  With mech (not exclusively but still great to see ).
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Kas made it second among foreigners, we should just leave it at that. Considering the players still left, I think he had great tournament and I'm looking forward to his 2013.
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On January 20 2013 05:01 0dem wrote:I am really glad for Socke! He deserves this! It was a great SC2-day with an amazing crowd! Looking forward to the finals tomorrow! Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 04:57 Ippo wrote:Socke on Twitter xD Giacomo Thüs @SockeSC2
big thanks also to @EGStephanoRC already for deciding to not show up. thxformoney? #IEM
This is gold :D Best twitter post made today still by MorroW:
Stefan Andersson @apeXMorroW
@SockeSC2 body of santa, face of jesus. how much more can you ask for?
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On January 20 2013 04:31 Bocian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 04:30 totauksz wrote:Kas is a much much much better player than Socke, sad that he didn't won  If Kas was much better than socke the he would 3-0 Socke...
Kas beat Socke 8-2 recently... and the 2 wins of socke were a 4gate and an other all-in.
In this game the inferior player can win with sheananigans even amongs the top. Kas is much more solid player overall. Socke is ofc awesome too, but let's not get carried away just because socke won a close series with 2 all-ins and a game where Kas threw his 70 supply humongous lead because he had a brainfart...
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On January 20 2013 05:17 totauksz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 04:31 Bocian wrote:On January 20 2013 04:30 totauksz wrote:Kas is a much much much better player than Socke, sad that he didn't won  If Kas was much better than socke the he would 3-0 Socke... Kas beat Socke 8-2 recently... and the 2 wins of socke were a 4gate and an other all-in. In this game the inferior player can win with sheananigans even amongs the top. Kas is much more solid player overall. Socke is ofc awesome too, but let's not get carried away just because socke won a close series with 2 all-ins and a game where Kas threw his 70 supply humongous lead because he had a brainfart...
so Socke won because the more solid player Kas choked?
Errr yeah, thats the definition of solid players I guess lol
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socke foriegn hope gogo :D
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On January 20 2013 05:17 totauksz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 04:31 Bocian wrote:On January 20 2013 04:30 totauksz wrote:Kas is a much much much better player than Socke, sad that he didn't won  If Kas was much better than socke the he would 3-0 Socke... Kas beat Socke 8-2 recently... and the 2 wins of socke were a 4gate and an other all-in. In this game the inferior player can win with sheananigans even amongs the top. Kas is much more solid player overall. Socke is ofc awesome too, but let's not get carried away just because socke won a close series with 2 all-ins and a game where Kas threw his 70 supply humongous lead because he had a brainfart...
A solid player: a) doesn't eco cheese. (3 CC before units) b) knows how to defend cheeses and all ins.
They both played a great series. The better player wins and that was Socke today.
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On January 20 2013 05:17 totauksz wrote: let's not get carried away just because socke won a close series with 2 all-ins and a game where Kas threw his 70 supply humongous lead because he had a brainfart...
Socke has been playing really well this tournament, hasn't dropped a set so far whereas Kas dropped 2 in the group stages. Socke's on top form and Kas just isn't at the top of his game right now.
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Well I missed all of day 3 and the mod note is extremely confusing, what happened?
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That was a really fun day of IEM. Great games, of course i specially liked Socke vs Kas. Poor Kas. Really emotional ending of game 5. I wish koreans would show more emotions as well, it's not like they're gonna get punished for it.
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On January 20 2013 04:44 Awesomeness wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 04:40 AgentW wrote:On January 20 2013 04:39 PhoenixVoid wrote: My predictions for tomorrow:
First 3-1 Socke Dream 1-3 Daisy PartinG 3-1 YoDa
Daisy 1-3 PartinG PartinG 3-2 First Are you considering Socke's exceptional PvP? hm? Socke always says that he doesn't like pvp. His pvz was probably worse for some time (well, everyone except Parting was bad at pvz during that time.), but after the patch and the way he played against nerchio....pretty sure pvp is his worst matchup.
this was true in the past. But recently he stated that PvP is his strongest match up and that he feels very confindet playing it.
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Hate this discussion, who of Kas or Socke is the better Player. Socke was today better than Kas, this is a fact. Who is overall better is not more than just a question of the personal opinion from everyone
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In Be4 Yoda picking up the trofee and chashing out the check!!!
Yoda to rule them all!
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On January 20 2013 05:44 Dodgin wrote: Well I missed all of day 3 and the mod note is extremely confusing, what happened?
Some guy said SC2 is dead, and brought everyone into that can of worms.
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thank you!!! don't care about spoilers i need to study builds : D
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