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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
January 14 2013 11:39 GMT
#1481
Yes, now that they can use a powerful combination like Stephano-HerO-Revival in a single match, we should still put all blame to the coaching for not being able to close out a match because getting your other players experience in the booth won't help at all in the long run unlike what they think. This is all definitely their fault.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
January 14 2013 11:40 GMT
#1482
So what happened this week with EGTL? Taeja is injured and Jaedong was sent to a showmatch tournament.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
January 14 2013 11:40 GMT
#1483
Like Jangbi, dislike EG, perfect day.
11 years and counting- TL #680
skYTosS
Profile Joined January 2013
United States188 Posts
January 14 2013 11:40 GMT
#1484
Glad Stephano did well in his match though. That's promising.
samuraibael
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia294 Posts
January 14 2013 11:40 GMT
#1485
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Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 11:43:13
January 14 2013 11:40 GMT
#1486
On January 14 2013 20:38 Dotq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 20:33 ZachFreeman wrote:
On January 14 2013 20:30 Clefairy wrote:
Hwanni is way too nice to the crappy players. It's obvious to everyone but him that Huk, Thorzain, and Puma will be free wins most of the time. Stop giving them opportunities to throw the game. Use the obvious best players but in a good order like the other teams do.

You need to give your lesser players experience in the booths, even if it's just to make them feel like they actually belong there. Every single player on every single team is capable of taking a game off anyone. That's why proleague is so great.


Give them experience? These players has been competeing in tournaments for years now, and if they are still not able to perform in the booths then use the players who will.

Playing puma over jaedong taeja jyp is m a d n e s s. You dont send out your worst proleague player over your best ones.

Jaedong and Taeja were unavailable. Don't know about JYP
But you can call it EG curse because the players have said that many of them have gotten sick in the teamhouse (Stephano was the last who got sick for example).
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
January 14 2013 11:40 GMT
#1487
I don't know how to blame the coach here. Taeja and Jaedong are not there, so the only other viable options are probably Huk and JYP, since I don't think Zenio or Thorzain could have won against Jangbi. Maybe putting your faith in 3 PvPs in a row feels like a better plan? I don't know about that.
That Jangbi played 4gate on Arkanoid last week doesn't mean shit that he is gonna do it again. And you cannot really blame HerO much for that loss, especially since we don't know if he even trained on Arkanoid (he probably trained mostly for Entombed and Ohana, but not much for the fifth map in the series when he expected to be needed probably on the 2nd or 3rd map).
The only strange choice is Puma, but he might just have trained that map all week long, so we don't know that.
Without Jaedong and Taeja, plus Stephano losing the first map, TL is not as deep a team as some make it out to be.

And finally, Jangbi played freakishly well, as did HerO. Sometimes good players just win three matches.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Juggernaut477
Profile Joined May 2011
United States379 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 11:41:46
January 14 2013 11:40 GMT
#1488
On January 14 2013 20:36 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Bring out PirateZerg and YouSuckBallsWithoutMeTerran pls.


I think Taeja has a wrist injury atm.
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 11:41:31
January 14 2013 11:41 GMT
#1489
Good job Hero!!!!!!!! Too bad we lost but sh** happens
Inviteme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States165 Posts
January 14 2013 11:41 GMT
#1490
how many points I earned today If I have hydra + jangbi + khan and Bogus on my anti-team
asdf
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 14 2013 11:41 GMT
#1491
On January 14 2013 20:39 NicksonReyes wrote:
Yes, now that they can use a powerful combination like Stephano-HerO-Revival in a single match, we should still put all blame to the coaching for not being able to close out a match because getting your other players experience in the booth won't help at all in the long run unlike what they think. This is all definitely their fault.


lol yeah, Hero, Stephano, and Revival are definitely a powerhouse. People on here try to find any excuse they can after their "sweeties" lose.
PressItDown
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore74 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 11:42:53
January 14 2013 11:41 GMT
#1492
On January 14 2013 20:39 NicksonReyes wrote:
Yes, now that they can use a powerful combination like Stephano-HerO-Revival in a single match, we should still put all blame to the coaching for not being able to close out a match because getting your other players experience in the booth won't help at all in the long run unlike what they think. This is all definitely their fault.


Giving them the exposure and experience AND still closing out the match with a victory? That would be a job well done.

Giving away multiple victories on the pretense of i am giving my players the exposure and experience they need in the booth, landing the team a 7th place in the league rankings? I believe you have your answer
Yes, i suck.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
January 14 2013 11:41 GMT
#1493
EG-TL should be racking up the wins in the WoL portion of proleague while they still can with their top players. When round 4 starts with HotS their clear advantage in skill will be reset and there's a good chance they'll fall to the bottom. Giving experience to their lesser players has no benefits.
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
January 14 2013 11:42 GMT
#1494
On January 14 2013 20:34 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 20:31 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On January 14 2013 20:30 Clefairy wrote:
Hwanni is way too nice to the crappy players. It's obvious to everyone but him that Huk, Thorzain, and Puma will be free wins most of the time. Stop giving them opportunities to throw the game. Use the obvious best players but in a good order like the other teams do.


I believe coaching decisions have cost them at least 2 matches in both rounds of the SPL so far.

IIRC Hwanni and Trot have said they will pick players not based on winning but who can get the most experience of the match.
Same with LG-IM thats why you should NEVER trust on them in Team Leagues.. T_T
Really? If that's true (anybody have a link?) then that explains a lot. Really hard to cheer for EG-TL if that's their philosophy... I want to cheer for a team that's going all-out to win. Maybe it's time to shift loyalties back to CJ.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
January 14 2013 11:42 GMT
#1495
JangBi played very good today. I think both Puma and Revival played too passive.

Didnt catch Stephano game, how was it?
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 14 2013 11:43 GMT
#1496
On January 14 2013 20:42 munchmunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 20:34 Tobblish wrote:
On January 14 2013 20:31 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On January 14 2013 20:30 Clefairy wrote:
Hwanni is way too nice to the crappy players. It's obvious to everyone but him that Huk, Thorzain, and Puma will be free wins most of the time. Stop giving them opportunities to throw the game. Use the obvious best players but in a good order like the other teams do.


I believe coaching decisions have cost them at least 2 matches in both rounds of the SPL so far.

IIRC Hwanni and Trot have said they will pick players not based on winning but who can get the most experience of the match.
Same with LG-IM thats why you should NEVER trust on them in Team Leagues.. T_T
Really? If that's true (anybody have a link?) then that explains a lot. Really hard to cheer for EG-TL if that's their philosophy... I want to cheer for a team that's going all-out to win. Maybe it's time to shift loyalties back to CJ.


lol -- yes you should definitely start cheering for Kespa teams. Teams like EG-TL have already peaked. The Kespa teams are only going to get better.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
January 14 2013 11:43 GMT
#1497
I can't get all the coach whining. This is a team, every player need a chance to play and get some experience. And anyway the only real problem here is that most of the ace players are not here or in bad condition. You can't expect EGTL to win without Taeja and Jaedong. And with Stephano constantly killed by a zerg, it won't go well for sure.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
January 14 2013 11:43 GMT
#1498
Jangbi getting the second 3-game streak break this round.

Scoring:
KHAN +2
EGTL +1
Bbatta +3
HerO +6
Jangbi +10
all other KHAN players +1
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
January 14 2013 11:43 GMT
#1499
On January 14 2013 20:42 munchmunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 20:34 Tobblish wrote:
On January 14 2013 20:31 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On January 14 2013 20:30 Clefairy wrote:
Hwanni is way too nice to the crappy players. It's obvious to everyone but him that Huk, Thorzain, and Puma will be free wins most of the time. Stop giving them opportunities to throw the game. Use the obvious best players but in a good order like the other teams do.


I believe coaching decisions have cost them at least 2 matches in both rounds of the SPL so far.

IIRC Hwanni and Trot have said they will pick players not based on winning but who can get the most experience of the match.
Same with LG-IM thats why you should NEVER trust on them in Team Leagues.. T_T
Really? If that's true (anybody have a link?) then that explains a lot. Really hard to cheer for EG-TL if that's their philosophy... I want to cheer for a team that's going all-out to win. Maybe it's time to shift loyalties back to CJ.

Check out the SPL interviews.
I think it was the 2nd one.
The curse is real
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
January 14 2013 11:43 GMT
#1500
EGTL needs to shape up if they don't want to end up last on PL. Which would be straight up a disgrace to the "foreign" scene.

Revival choors
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
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