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Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
January 13 2013 18:44 GMT
#761
On January 14 2013 03:43 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:39 Black Gun wrote:
wtf is this shit? why did they delay mkp vs mc? now i have to wait for another boring zvz bo5 to finish. -.-


btw the technical quality of ironsquid until now was really great. but the tournament lost most of its appeal to me because it became a zvz fest.



Actually, you could have noticed that all recent tournaments ended in a zvz fest.




word liquipedia looks ridicolous
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
January 13 2013 18:44 GMT
#762
This was a very old all in from Nestea he used to do this alot. I remember him beating Stephano 2-1 with this allin in IPL 4
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
January 13 2013 18:44 GMT
#763
On January 14 2013 03:41 IronSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:38 Scrubwave wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:31 IronSquid wrote:
Just got informed that next game will actually NesTea - Scarlett

What, are MVP and MC not ready yet?
Oh wait!
Nice dick move moving the only non-zvz match even further back.

relax

"relax"?

he is absolutely correct, moving a match further back after already announcing it, is a dick move.

If I only wanted to catch the one of the matches, then I would assume minimum 1 hour per Bo5, and plan my schedule accordingly.
GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
January 13 2013 18:44 GMT
#764
On January 14 2013 03:43 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:39 Black Gun wrote:
wtf is this shit? why did they delay mkp vs mc? now i have to wait for another boring zvz bo5 to finish. -.-


btw the technical quality of ironsquid until now was really great. but the tournament lost most of its appeal to me because it became a zvz fest.



Actually, i could have notice that all recent tournaments ended in a zvz fest.


Yeah that's just such a terrible attitude, if you dont want to watch ZvZ then quit watching StarCraft because you know with HoTS coming soon the state of the game isnt going to change for WoL, so instead of crying about ZvZ, learn to enjoy the match-up, because it has some depth ( even though i'm terribad at it )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
January 13 2013 18:45 GMT
#765
On January 14 2013 03:36 Benjamin99 wrote:
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On January 14 2013 03:33 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Hmm... Nestea being the favorite? Not sure I agree with that. Scarlett has the best ZvZ out of all foreigners imo.


Hard to call since we don't know Nestea ZvZ strength atm. But Nestea used to be allmost invincible in the ZvZ match up.


It is a little odd that a player that we know have probably the best ZvZ out of all foreigners are considered a underdog against a zerg which we seen very little ZvZ from lately. Pretty much because he is a korean.

Guess old habits die hard ^^
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
oscarsg
Profile Joined January 2013
75 Posts
January 13 2013 18:45 GMT
#766
On January 14 2013 03:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
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On January 14 2013 03:42 oscarsg wrote:
Nestea doesn't have the necessary APM and mechanics to do this anymore, I think.


What about lag?

Which server do they play on?
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 13 2013 18:45 GMT
#767
It is like they are trying to keep viewers through all these ZvZ's by prolonging the MKP vs. MC
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 18:46:18
January 13 2013 18:46 GMT
#768
On January 14 2013 03:45 4ZakeN87 wrote:
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On January 14 2013 03:36 Benjamin99 wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:33 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Hmm... Nestea being the favorite? Not sure I agree with that. Scarlett has the best ZvZ out of all foreigners imo.


Hard to call since we don't know Nestea ZvZ strength atm. But Nestea used to be allmost invincible in the ZvZ match up.


It is a little odd that a player that we know have probably the best ZvZ out of all foreigners are considered a underdog against a zerg which we seen very little ZvZ from lately. Pretty much because he is a korean.

Guess old habits die hard ^^


Not because he's Korean, but because he's Nestea. He's one of the smartest players.
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
January 13 2013 18:46 GMT
#769
On January 14 2013 03:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:42 oscarsg wrote:
Nestea doesn't have the necessary APM and mechanics to do this anymore, I think.


What about lag?

NesTea's strategy was old and bad, it relies on the opponent to not make any banelings, and if you scout no hatchery at a timing of hatch first, or pool into 16 hatch, you make a baneling nest.

It's a figured out strategy, and will probably only work on some KesPA players who haven't experienced all the strategies from the past.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 13 2013 18:46 GMT
#770
On January 14 2013 03:44 GregMandel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:43 Insoleet wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:39 Black Gun wrote:
wtf is this shit? why did they delay mkp vs mc? now i have to wait for another boring zvz bo5 to finish. -.-


btw the technical quality of ironsquid until now was really great. but the tournament lost most of its appeal to me because it became a zvz fest.



Actually, i could have notice that all recent tournaments ended in a zvz fest.


Yeah that's just such a terrible attitude, if you dont want to watch ZvZ then quit watching StarCraft because you know with HoTS coming soon the state of the game isnt going to change for WoL, so instead of crying about ZvZ, learn to enjoy the match-up, because it has some depth ( even though i'm terribad at it )


no one has anything against 'zvz', just against 'ONLY zvz'

on-topic - Mr. T 3-1 comeback INCOMING. BEWARE
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 13 2013 18:46 GMT
#771
On January 14 2013 03:45 oscarsg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:42 oscarsg wrote:
Nestea doesn't have the necessary APM and mechanics to do this anymore, I think.


What about lag?

Which server do they play on?


Someone said that for
EU vs Kr - NA,
for Kr vs NA - NA,
for Kr vs. Kr - Kr

Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 18:47:50
January 13 2013 18:47 GMT
#772
On January 14 2013 03:45 oscarsg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:42 oscarsg wrote:
Nestea doesn't have the necessary APM and mechanics to do this anymore, I think.


What about lag?

Which server do they play on?


Alternating KR and NA, 5th game is coinflip to determine server. Don't know on which one they started.

Edit: This was confirmed by ironsquid somewhere in this thread
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 13 2013 18:47 GMT
#773
On January 14 2013 03:47 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:45 oscarsg wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:42 oscarsg wrote:
Nestea doesn't have the necessary APM and mechanics to do this anymore, I think.


What about lag?

Which server do they play on?


Alternating KR and NA, 5th game is coinflip to determine server. Don't know on which one they started.


that seems surprisingly well organised
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
January 13 2013 18:48 GMT
#774
Life: "Hey NesTea here's a cool idea; we both go down 0-2 against the foreigners and then make comebacks!"
NesTea: "Sounds like a cool idea!"

*Life goes down 0-2 then wins 3-2*

NesTea: "Now my turn!"

*NesTea goes down 0-2, loses game 3"

Life: "Ahahahahaha!"
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
January 13 2013 18:48 GMT
#775
On January 14 2013 03:44 Benjamin99 wrote:
This was a very old all in from Nestea he used to do this alot. I remember him beating Stephano 2-1 with this allin in IPL 4


That was in Tal'Darim Altar though. It is a lot easier to defend it on Ohana, because there are ramps and it is a lot easier to bring a Queen to the Natural from the Main. It is also easier to scout on Ohana because units are going to run under Overlords on Ohana whereas on TDA it is a lot harder to spot the oncoming units with Overlords because it is a 4 player map and your opponents spawning position needs to be discovered.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 18:54:12
January 13 2013 18:49 GMT
#776
On January 14 2013 03:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:31 sitromit wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:28 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I only saw the last game. How did Life lose the first two games?


Goswser came up with a counter build to Life's play that centers around a Roach/Bane bust at a specific timing. Life lost twice, then adapted and crushed it every time.


That's not a bad strategy to use. Kudos to Goswser for the planning.

I couldn't plan, I had to play the match 1 hour after I beat MVP, because I was leaving for Vegas.
Edit: not trying to make excuse, probably shouldn't have posted this at all. Life is by far the better player, I hope he wins in Paris.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
January 13 2013 18:49 GMT
#777
On January 14 2013 03:48 Yonnua wrote:
Life: "Hey NesTea here's a cool idea; we both go down 0-2 against the foreigners and then make comebacks!"
NesTea: "Sounds like a cool idea!"

*Life goes down 0-2 then wins 3-2*

NesTea: "Now my turn!"

*NesTea goes down 0-2, loses game 3"

Life: "Ahahahahaha!"

Hahahaha, that was amazing.

#1
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
January 13 2013 18:49 GMT
#778
They started on NA. You can tell by who has a weird name account and who's using their regular one (Nestea was Random last game and is IMNestea now, Scarlett was Scarlett last game and is IronSquid now).
From the void I am born into wave and particle
IronSquid
Profile Joined January 2012
France487 Posts
January 13 2013 18:49 GMT
#779
On January 14 2013 03:44 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:41 IronSquid wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:38 Scrubwave wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:31 IronSquid wrote:
Just got informed that next game will actually NesTea - Scarlett

What, are MVP and MC not ready yet?
Oh wait!
Nice dick move moving the only non-zvz match even further back.

relax

"relax"?

he is absolutely correct, moving a match further back after already announcing it, is a dick move.

If I only wanted to catch the one of the matches, then I would assume minimum 1 hour per Bo5, and plan my schedule accordingly.

it was actually planned but didn't get the info before posting the OP, since things are pretty rushy I didn't ask about it before hands, sorry about that.

Keep in mind that you're provided with a 100% free HD stream, switchin a game is not a "dick move" since it's not to drag the audence but rather to have the most peoplehaving the games they want to watch (8pm is closer to a prime time)

regards
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12475 Posts
January 13 2013 18:49 GMT
#780
On January 14 2013 03:46 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:44 GregMandel wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:43 Insoleet wrote:
On January 14 2013 03:39 Black Gun wrote:
wtf is this shit? why did they delay mkp vs mc? now i have to wait for another boring zvz bo5 to finish. -.-


btw the technical quality of ironsquid until now was really great. but the tournament lost most of its appeal to me because it became a zvz fest.



Actually, i could have notice that all recent tournaments ended in a zvz fest.


Yeah that's just such a terrible attitude, if you dont want to watch ZvZ then quit watching StarCraft because you know with HoTS coming soon the state of the game isnt going to change for WoL, so instead of crying about ZvZ, learn to enjoy the match-up, because it has some depth ( even though i'm terribad at it )


no one has anything against 'zvz', just against 'ONLY zvz'


Yeah but it won't change so you should just enjoy it!

Pretty sure that's not what she said.
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