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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
January 12 2013 04:33 GMT
#321
just kill hyvaa ^^
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
January 12 2013 04:33 GMT
#322
On January 12 2013 13:32 opterown wrote:
roro please 3 kill or something

I hope we see the good roro that dominates everything D:
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 12 2013 04:33 GMT
#323
Janhbi ftw
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
January 12 2013 04:33 GMT
#324
it all makes sense. Janhbi was REALLY JANUARY PLAYING...
ASAUIGB:IASGBH:SABG
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
January 12 2013 04:34 GMT
#325
On January 12 2013 13:33 Daogin wrote:
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On January 12 2013 13:32 opterown wrote:
roro please 3 kill or something

I hope we see the good roro that dominates everything D:


The roro rule is that he will never play well when you want him to, and he'll never lose if you don't want to see him win. This roro rule has plagued WeMade and now Khan fans for generations
can i get my estro logo back pls
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
January 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#326
I have Hyvaa on my anti-team.. he's going to all-kill khan isn't he :'(
戦いの中に答えはある
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#327
On January 12 2013 13:32 TheDougler wrote:
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On January 12 2013 13:29 Arceus wrote:
shit Hyvaa you are supposed to be real bad


I didn't see anything impressive that game on his part. Jangbi just got behind and stayed there till Hyvaa killed him.

His infestor control and retention was, for the most part, very good. Something that's very overlooked IMO
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 12 2013 04:36 GMT
#328
On January 12 2013 13:34 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 13:33 Daogin wrote:
On January 12 2013 13:32 opterown wrote:
roro please 3 kill or something

I hope we see the good roro that dominates everything D:


The roro rule is that he will never play well when you want him to, and he'll never lose if you don't want to see him win. This roro rule has plagued WeMade and now Khan fans for generations

Damn, he doesn't look that old :D
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
January 12 2013 04:36 GMT
#329
On January 12 2013 13:03 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
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On January 12 2013 12:52 MisterFred wrote:
On January 12 2013 12:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On January 12 2013 12:46 MisterFred wrote:
I don't get why people are surprised Stork won. Last gave away like 10 SCVs by pulling a SMALLER NUMBER THAN THE NUMBER OF PROBES and sending them out to die instead of... lifting the depot. Stork should have been laughed out of the studio. Instead Last responded with about the worst possible move.

In other news, no one knows why the five fans in the audience apparently brought a table full of food for Samsung?

If he doesn't send out SCV's Stork kills the CC goes home and drops a nexus and gets ahead anyway.... There is a reason why Last pulled his SCV's though I do agree he should have pulled more and probably should have micro'd them better.


This is incorrect. Stork didn't drop his nexus until well after the probe shenanigans. Last needs only cancel the CC, restart it on the high ground, and laugh. This also would have given him the minerals necessary to start his first orbital on time... if you noticed in the game, he didn't even start his first orbital until about the time Stork started his second nexus!!

The missed mining time of 10 probes would have been a TERRIBLE trade off for a delay of the CC + 100 mineral cancel cost. Last would have had his second CC up before the second nexus instead of being down workers with no orbitals after the rush.

Stork didn't drop his nexus because he couldn't with the marine follow up coming. Its Last cancelled and rebuilt the CC on highground he could have dropped the Nexus much earlier instead of Getting core another zealot and a stalker. knowing Last had to rebuild CC and wouldn't be pushing out anytime soon.


If Last cancels & rebuilds on the high ground, he is leagues ahead economically than what happened in the actual game (~10 more SCVs & 2 or 3 more mules due to not having a late first orbital - second orbital comes at around the same time). The potential for a marine follow-up is the same either way. Rebuilding on the high ground has absolutely no bearing on when Stork can drop the second nexus. Having to rebuild a CC costs ONLY 100 MINERALS - far, far, far less than he lost by doing his stupid move. It would have IN NO WAY have delayed any marine counter-attack by Last.

There's just no way that SCV pull is a good idea. I know why Last did it - to try & finish the second CC & pull back. But it was the wrong move any way you slice it. It hurt - a lot.

And no freaking way you're going to tell me that Stork having ten idle probes for a minute (travel back and across the map) puts him ahead when Last's are all mining during that time. Stork got lucky Last got stupid & gifted him an advantage. Then he did a good job closing out the game.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 12 2013 04:36 GMT
#330
On January 12 2013 13:35 Gingerninja wrote:
I have Hyvaa on my anti-team.. he's going to all-kill khan isn't he :'(


Nahh, he might get one more kill, but it's unlikely. Trap will come in and finish the job though!
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
January 12 2013 04:37 GMT
#331
On January 12 2013 13:32 Caihead wrote:
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On January 12 2013 13:28 Veldril wrote:
On January 12 2013 13:22 skYTosS wrote:
Sigh, BW guys always likes to do constant harrassment, but usually the only battle matters in SC2 is just front battle. Harrassment makes front army much weaker.


The problem is that Jangbi's harrassment did not really do any damage at all... His phoenix was revealed too too soon.


If you got harassed in BW and lost workers it's a massively bigger deal than in SC2, you literally have to click 5-6 more unique times per new worker (go to area of base, make worker, go back to area of base, click on worker, mine). In SC2 you just click one button repeatedly auto mine. When you did it in BW it detracted from the opponent's ability to manage other aspects of the game.


I understand that. But that doesn't mean harassment cannot do any damage in SC2 at all, it just need to kill a considerable amount of units/wokers/buildings, or detract the player's attention away from the front line before you engage the main battle or where he should be focus on. Jangbi's harassment did neither of this, so it did not do any damage.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
January 12 2013 04:37 GMT
#332
Dang it hyvaa, I need Bogus to play ;___; curses!!!!
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
January 12 2013 04:38 GMT
#333
On January 12 2013 13:17 rushz0rz wrote:
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On January 12 2013 13:08 Scarecrow wrote:
On January 12 2013 13:03 coasts wrote:
I wonder if people who keep on insulting the casters realize that they are real people who actually have feelings and happen to frequent TL.

They are employed to provide a service. If they want to be professional casters they open themselves up to criticism.


You're the kind of guy that treats the barista like shit merely because you can, aren't you?

Not that I drink coffee but if it was the equivalent of this cast I'd probably complain. Complaints/criticism doesn't equal treating someone like shit. Better they recieve some feedback than serve shit coffee forever because people are too 'nice'.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
January 12 2013 04:39 GMT
#334
Ahh spending the night/going to sleep watching PL and waking up to Iron Squid. Could life be any better?
#TheOneTrueDong
Kerwin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
January 12 2013 04:40 GMT
#335
On January 12 2013 13:27 rushz0rz wrote:
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On January 12 2013 13:22 Kerwin wrote:
On January 12 2013 13:20 vthree wrote:
On January 12 2013 13:16 Kerwin wrote:
On January 12 2013 13:14 vthree wrote:
On January 12 2013 13:08 Scarecrow wrote:
On January 12 2013 13:03 coasts wrote:
I wonder if people who keep on insulting the casters realize that they are real people who actually have feelings and happen to frequent TL.

They are employed to provide a service. If they want to be professional casters they open themselves up to criticism.


Yes and no. Of course, they are open themselves up to criticism. But just because they are getting paid, it doesn't mean posters can say whatever they want. Just like in your job in RL, your customers can't just come and talk shit to you. Sure, they can make complains and so forth. But they can't just come and make some of the comments that are made here.

Apparently you've never worked tech support or customer service. It's not uncommon for me to get called names before I've even had a chance to say something other than "thank you for calling".


And why do you think this occurs more via telephone compare to face-to-face. Because people know there is little or nothing that person can do. Same with the internet. But are you saying it should be ok to verbal abuse tech support or customer service?

You said people can't do it... and I'm telling you people do do it. Besides... I haven't seen THAT much hate in these threads... these casters are kinda boring... Both are play-by-play. I don't really care about casters that much unless they are really really bad or really really good.


People can do it, sure, the same way people can kill other people but most of us don't do it. You may be too young to realize that there are some unwritten rules of society and one of them is to act, more or less, civilly. This is the internet and people can get away with it, but if you go out and act like that in general society you will find people won't want to associate themselves with you. Just some general life advice.


Sigh... I guess Condescending = Mature.

I love how I make an offhand comment basically trying to say that criticism is out there and you just have to deal with it and now I'm trying to be cornered into defending unreasonable behavior that may or may not happen on the internet.

I haven't seen people be that unreasonable about the casters. (I may have missed some post that was more egregious)

If you've dealt with any job where you are constantly criticized by a largely anonymous audience, then you'll know that you have to separate the useful from the hate and focus on what you can improve. These casters need to improve and if people offer legitimate complaints about their casting then it can only help them.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 12 2013 04:40 GMT
#336
[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs STX Soul
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 12 2013 04:40 GMT
#337
On January 12 2013 13:39 TommyP wrote:
Ahh spending the night/going to sleep watching PL and waking up to Iron Squid. Could life be any better?


Yes, my FPL team could be winning. Stupid hyvaa.
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
January 12 2013 04:41 GMT
#338
Gogo Roro, need moar FPL points!!
Kerwin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
January 12 2013 04:41 GMT
#339
On January 12 2013 13:36 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 13:03 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On January 12 2013 12:52 MisterFred wrote:
On January 12 2013 12:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On January 12 2013 12:46 MisterFred wrote:
I don't get why people are surprised Stork won. Last gave away like 10 SCVs by pulling a SMALLER NUMBER THAN THE NUMBER OF PROBES and sending them out to die instead of... lifting the depot. Stork should have been laughed out of the studio. Instead Last responded with about the worst possible move.

In other news, no one knows why the five fans in the audience apparently brought a table full of food for Samsung?

If he doesn't send out SCV's Stork kills the CC goes home and drops a nexus and gets ahead anyway.... There is a reason why Last pulled his SCV's though I do agree he should have pulled more and probably should have micro'd them better.


This is incorrect. Stork didn't drop his nexus until well after the probe shenanigans. Last needs only cancel the CC, restart it on the high ground, and laugh. This also would have given him the minerals necessary to start his first orbital on time... if you noticed in the game, he didn't even start his first orbital until about the time Stork started his second nexus!!

The missed mining time of 10 probes would have been a TERRIBLE trade off for a delay of the CC + 100 mineral cancel cost. Last would have had his second CC up before the second nexus instead of being down workers with no orbitals after the rush.

Stork didn't drop his nexus because he couldn't with the marine follow up coming. Its Last cancelled and rebuilt the CC on highground he could have dropped the Nexus much earlier instead of Getting core another zealot and a stalker. knowing Last had to rebuild CC and wouldn't be pushing out anytime soon.


If Last cancels & rebuilds on the high ground, he is leagues ahead economically than what happened in the actual game (~10 more SCVs & 2 or 3 more mules due to not having a late first orbital - second orbital comes at around the same time). The potential for a marine follow-up is the same either way. Rebuilding on the high ground has absolutely no bearing on when Stork can drop the second nexus. Having to rebuild a CC costs ONLY 100 MINERALS - far, far, far less than he lost by doing his stupid move. It would have IN NO WAY have delayed any marine counter-attack by Last.

There's just no way that SCV pull is a good idea. I know why Last did it - to try & finish the second CC & pull back. But it was the wrong move any way you slice it. It hurt - a lot.

And no freaking way you're going to tell me that Stork having ten idle probes for a minute (travel back and across the map) puts him ahead when Last's are all mining during that time. Stork got lucky Last got stupid & gifted him an advantage. Then he did a good job closing out the game.

I agree, the only thing that may not change it is that Last didn't really build a wall, there was a gap between his rax... so that changes things slightly... but I do agree that Last could have reacted basically any other way and it would have been better.
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
January 12 2013 04:42 GMT
#340
Roro please. Give me these points.
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