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Addict
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium164 Posts
January 11 2013 18:19 GMT
#241
Violet?
totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
January 11 2013 18:19 GMT
#242
good job mkp!
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
January 11 2013 18:20 GMT
#243
Good job MKP . And go go MC .

Why is the op not updating ?
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 11 2013 18:20 GMT
#244
On January 12 2013 03:18 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 03:13 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:10 Poopi wrote:
Lol. MC was right. MarineKing TvP god, sorry Bomber.


Yeah I was wondering if that was kind of a spoiler by MC since he probably knew the results of this game, so I took that as a good sign when MC said that. MKP ain't no taeja when it comes to TvP!

To be fair to TaeJa his TvP was kind of godlike too in the summer, but I guess it's harder to stay on top than to reach it so his weakness are more apparent now.

So happy that MKP won, in fashion also.
HerO played it really well, making the right decisions but with slightly less good execution than MKP's each time (did not see the beginning of the second game though so maybe not true for that game!).

Gogo viOlet, Mvp and Life! Gogo goswer also, him beating Mvp would not upset me much.


The second game started off with HerO going 1 gate double expand and adding 7 gates to hold MKPs aggression + counter. He got pretty far ahead through that.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13012 Posts
January 11 2013 18:21 GMT
#245
On January 12 2013 03:17 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 03:13 Poopi wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:11 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:10 Poopi wrote:
Lol. MC was right. MarineKing TvP god, sorry Bomber.
You are not supposed to defend vs colossus allin with MKP's build especially if you moved your CC. Except if you are MKP.
:D


HerO's gameplan was just weird... it wasn't a colossus all in, it was a standard colossus build, then he got the information on the 3 CCs and attacked... Weird games, really weird

No it was allin, no forge nothing, this allin is supposed to hit with 2 colossus and range soon after, because the factory is so late you can't really defend well, you got stuck on 2 bases trying to survive and then the P takes his third while containing you.

HerO did the right thing but MKP's micro + decision to stay on medivacs was just too much.


That's the thing though, he had a forge. It was a forge + robo bay build which is as standard as it gets. Which is great to pressure like he did but he turned it into an all in by not expanding and keeping up the attack.

Pretty sure he made the forge before seeing the third CC, he made it at the same time he made the colo bay if I remember correctly.
It would make no sense to expo at the time of his attack he would have been even more crushed.
WriterMaru
2muchSWAG
Profile Joined January 2013
76 Posts
January 11 2013 18:22 GMT
#246
GO MC!
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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
January 11 2013 18:22 GMT
#247
Lol poor Kaelaris hahaha. That 6 min double gas bet pretty good
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 11 2013 18:23 GMT
#248
On January 12 2013 03:21 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 03:17 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:13 Poopi wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:11 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:10 Poopi wrote:
Lol. MC was right. MarineKing TvP god, sorry Bomber.
You are not supposed to defend vs colossus allin with MKP's build especially if you moved your CC. Except if you are MKP.
:D


HerO's gameplan was just weird... it wasn't a colossus all in, it was a standard colossus build, then he got the information on the 3 CCs and attacked... Weird games, really weird

No it was allin, no forge nothing, this allin is supposed to hit with 2 colossus and range soon after, because the factory is so late you can't really defend well, you got stuck on 2 bases trying to survive and then the P takes his third while containing you.

HerO did the right thing but MKP's micro + decision to stay on medivacs was just too much.


That's the thing though, he had a forge. It was a forge + robo bay build which is as standard as it gets. Which is great to pressure like he did but he turned it into an all in by not expanding and keeping up the attack.

Pretty sure he made the forge before seeing the third CC, he made it at the same time he made the colo bay if I remember correctly.
It would make no sense to expo at the time of his attack he would have been even more crushed.


Yeah he did, it was forge + robo bay. That's pretty standard, he added a twilight council later too but didn't use it for a long time. I mean he could've easily expanded after killing that army in the middle and all the SCVs and been in a pretty good position even though his third was later but HerO kept attacking and lost his army...
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
January 11 2013 18:23 GMT
#249
ahahahh "fatandlazy" :D
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 11 2013 18:24 GMT
#250
I want to see how this works out. I've always found it interesting that MC, the master of all-ins, hasn't been doing a lot of Immortal/Sentry, and has failed the few times I've seen him try it.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10162 Posts
January 11 2013 18:25 GMT
#251
Oh an inmortal push, i haven't seen one since last year.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 11 2013 18:26 GMT
#252
Is Violet 1/1 or just +1 range?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13012 Posts
January 11 2013 18:26 GMT
#253
On January 12 2013 03:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 03:21 Poopi wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:17 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:13 Poopi wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:11 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:10 Poopi wrote:
Lol. MC was right. MarineKing TvP god, sorry Bomber.
You are not supposed to defend vs colossus allin with MKP's build especially if you moved your CC. Except if you are MKP.
:D


HerO's gameplan was just weird... it wasn't a colossus all in, it was a standard colossus build, then he got the information on the 3 CCs and attacked... Weird games, really weird

No it was allin, no forge nothing, this allin is supposed to hit with 2 colossus and range soon after, because the factory is so late you can't really defend well, you got stuck on 2 bases trying to survive and then the P takes his third while containing you.

HerO did the right thing but MKP's micro + decision to stay on medivacs was just too much.


That's the thing though, he had a forge. It was a forge + robo bay build which is as standard as it gets. Which is great to pressure like he did but he turned it into an all in by not expanding and keeping up the attack.

Pretty sure he made the forge before seeing the third CC, he made it at the same time he made the colo bay if I remember correctly.
It would make no sense to expo at the time of his attack he would have been even more crushed.


Yeah he did, it was forge + robo bay. That's pretty standard, he added a twilight council later too but didn't use it for a long time. I mean he could've easily expanded after killing that army in the middle and all the SCVs and been in a pretty good position even though his third was later but HerO kept attacking and lost his army...

It doesn't change anything that it's standart lol, he had to allin colossus after seeing the third CC, that was the best choice. I don't see exactly what moment you are talking about but MKP would have been able to comfortably sature his third base and with his upgrade advantage could deny HerO's third even more.
WriterMaru
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8315 Posts
January 11 2013 18:26 GMT
#254
On January 12 2013 03:17 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 03:13 Canucklehead wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:10 Poopi wrote:
Lol. MC was right. MarineKing TvP god, sorry Bomber.


Yeah I was wondering if that was kind of a spoiler by MC since he probably knew the results of this game, so I took that as a good sign when MC said that. MKP ain't no taeja when it comes to TvP!


Too bad MKP ain't no taeja when it come to TvZ either T.T


He goes through phases it seems though, he's had two different real peaks of TvZ brilliance which have lasted for months at a time... He's a funny dude that way. Since the start of SC2 his best matchups have been: TvZ (2010 and early 2011) then TvT (mid 2011. Unfortunately he was kind of overshadowed during this period by a few other terrans who had even better TvT than himself (Polt, MMA, MVP), then TvP (Early 2012), then TvZ ( early-mid 2012, like march/april when he was beating DRG and the like in MLG, and even when the queen patch hit he did pretty well in TvZ for a bit due to the hellion banshee opening). But now as zergs have gotten better and better it seems Protosses are the only guys he really demolishes anymore.

That's just my perspective though, not sure if everyone would agree with me.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
January 11 2013 18:29 GMT
#255
wow the last ffs were so bad so many roaches against sentries ._.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46270 Posts
January 11 2013 18:30 GMT
#256
Really impressive play and great decision-making by MC there. Forcefield king ♥
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
January 11 2013 18:31 GMT
#257
On January 12 2013 03:29 Undead1993 wrote:
wow the last ffs were so bad so many roaches against sentries ._.

On January 12 2013 03:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Really impressive play and great decision-making by MC there. Forcefield king ♥


Sums up LR thread pretty well!
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46270 Posts
January 11 2013 18:31 GMT
#258
On January 12 2013 03:20 Emptyness wrote:
Good job MKP . And go go MC .

Why is the op not updating ?


Good point. Not even the HotS results have been updated lol.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
January 11 2013 18:31 GMT
#259
On January 12 2013 03:29 Undead1993 wrote:
wow the last ffs were so bad so many roaches against sentries ._.


Violet didn't focus the sentries though so he retained almost every one...
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 11 2013 18:31 GMT
#260
On January 12 2013 03:20 Emptyness wrote:
Good job MKP . And go go MC .

Why is the op not updating ?


On January 11 2013 04:21 LeLfe wrote:
Just to let you know as I'll go from work to the studio (instead of home) I will be late to update the OP (should catch up around 7.30 pm)
sorry for the inconvenience!

See you guyz tomorrow
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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