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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 12:06:55
January 09 2013 12:06 GMT
#1621
On January 09 2013 21:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 20:59 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:58 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 Poopi wrote:
Now that Stephano is in korea, I hope they'll stop sending out HerO in proleague.


Would be stupid considering he's the better player.

Lol are you kidding or something?

Why am I not surprised to see France as your country?


Why am I not surprised to see TeamLiquid.net full of HerO fanbois...

On a more rational note, the thing is that Stephano in top shape is one of the best ZvP players. At the same time, HerO's shape right now is looking pretty poor, or at least his mental form is (which is just as important as his in-game skills).


Don't have to be a HerO/TL fanboy to know HerO's the better player.

That said HerO's form isn't the best at the moment, can't really speak much about Stephano since I haven't seen much of him lately.
Long live the King of Wings
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 12:07:18
January 09 2013 12:06 GMT
#1622
On January 09 2013 21:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:05 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:04 nimbim wrote:
Byun v Genius on Belshir Vestige
Byun top left, Genius bottom right

byun depot close to minerals and of course into 15cc
genius 16? gate, 1gas and nex


16 gate? o.O

16 supply


Yeah, that's still weird unless it was Nexus first?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Flowsick
Profile Joined June 2011
Estonia234 Posts
January 09 2013 12:06 GMT
#1623
Hero's a little like a protoss version of Bomber... so inconsistent, but talent is clearly there...
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
January 09 2013 12:06 GMT
#1624
byun adds a 2nd rax
genius 2nd gas and starts sending probes to nat
byun 2gas + 1 more rax at ~4:30
5:30 byun 36 to genius 39 supply
byun starts stim and fac
genius robo +2more gates
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
January 09 2013 12:06 GMT
#1625
bomber vs byul is the most anticipated match now
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
January 09 2013 12:06 GMT
#1626
On January 09 2013 21:01 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 20:58 mongmong wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 Poopi wrote:
Now that Stephano is in korea, I hope they'll stop sending out HerO in proleague.




????? Are you judging a player from a few bad games? Like stephano hasnt played bad

I'm not judging, and even when he was "winning" (he won only in inter I think) it wasn't that impressive. The point is he is doing quite bad in proleague and even worse in this Up&Down group, and I want TaeJa or Stephano to win games in proleague so they better get sent out early.



Yeah well great point. Your beloved stephano got knocked out of ro 32 at BWC, didnt do shit in Dreamhack winter which Hero won. Every player has up and downs and that includes players like stephano and Hero. BTW who do you want them to send out in proleague after Stephano and Taeja? Puma? Oh yeah actually I wish Hero doesnt play in proleague and focus solely on individual leagues because team league wins doesnt mean shit for players' career.
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
January 09 2013 12:07 GMT
#1627
On January 09 2013 21:05 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:02 Tobblish wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:58 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 Poopi wrote:
Now that Stephano is in korea, I hope they'll stop sending out HerO in proleague.


Would be stupid considering he's the better player.

Lol are you kidding or something?


Dead serious. Their recent results tell the tale.


I'm with you Olli, hero is not looking good at all atm.


Good enough to beat Stephano when they met recently + win Dreamhack & NASL and finish higher than Stephano at IPL5


He looked good then but recently he just hasn't been looking good (recent proleague + gsl matches, blizzard cup)

his whole career is up&down (lol) constantly, so that's not really surprising imo
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 09 2013 12:07 GMT
#1628
On January 09 2013 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:02 Tobblish wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:58 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 Poopi wrote:
Now that Stephano is in korea, I hope they'll stop sending out HerO in proleague.


Would be stupid considering he's the better player.

Lol are you kidding or something?


Dead serious. Their recent results tell the tale.


I'm with you Olli, hero is not looking good at all atm.


Good enough to beat Stephano when they met recently + win Dreamhack & NASL and finish higher than Stephano at IPL5


Bro you forget that in SC2 you can look like the #1 player in the whole world one month and then get massacred by a code A / code B player the next month. It's not as relevant as you might think. Sad but true.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
January 09 2013 12:07 GMT
#1629
On January 09 2013 21:07 kju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:05 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:02 Tobblish wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:58 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 Poopi wrote:
Now that Stephano is in korea, I hope they'll stop sending out HerO in proleague.


Would be stupid considering he's the better player.

Lol are you kidding or something?


Dead serious. Their recent results tell the tale.


I'm with you Olli, hero is not looking good at all atm.


Good enough to beat Stephano when they met recently + win Dreamhack & NASL and finish higher than Stephano at IPL5


He looked good then but recently he just hasn't been looking good (recent proleague + gsl matches, blizzard cup)

his whole career is up&down (lol) constantly, so that's not really surprising imo


sadly yes
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Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 12:08:40
January 09 2013 12:08 GMT
#1630
On January 09 2013 21:02 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 20:59 thesums wrote:
Not sure why the commentators always say hero is one of the best protoss... lol And everyone thinks that he is going to do well in the tournaments. He only does well in foreign ones lol

And nerve issues? It is obviously because he knows the Korean players are better than those foreign tournaments.


He is one of the best but he has nerve issues. He's made ro8 and ro4 in Code S lol.


How can he still have nerve issues?
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
January 09 2013 12:08 GMT
#1631
On January 09 2013 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:02 Tobblish wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:58 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 Poopi wrote:
Now that Stephano is in korea, I hope they'll stop sending out HerO in proleague.


Would be stupid considering he's the better player.

Lol are you kidding or something?


Dead serious. Their recent results tell the tale.


I'm with you Olli, hero is not looking good at all atm.


Good enough to beat Stephano when they met recently + win Dreamhack & NASL and finish higher than Stephano at IPL5

Lulz that fail reading quote tt

Hero have runs when he's kicking ass, I would say he's slumping atm.
Still I think he would beat Stephano since he knows his style very good.
But if you would line up 10players, Stephano would win more matches than Hero.
The curse is real
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
January 09 2013 12:08 GMT
#1632
byun 3gas now
genius starts robo bay, starport for byun 1/2 done
+1 atk for byun on the way
genius gets his first glimpse at byuns build soon with his obs (8:30)
more rax and gates on the way
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
January 09 2013 12:08 GMT
#1633
On January 09 2013 21:05 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:00 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:56 stuchiu wrote:
The more Byul wins, the smarter Fionn looks.


Some people can recognize talent, most can't. Or they just don't follow as much SC2 as they claim.

I personally am proud of my predictions with regards to ByuL (since his GSTL Fnatic appearance) and Life (since his online bonjwa status).


I miss the Korean weeklies so much. I knew how good Life, Taeja and Hack were before everybody else did.



Hey I knew Life would win something big in the mid 2011.

:D
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
January 09 2013 12:09 GMT
#1634
On January 09 2013 21:06 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:59 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:58 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 Poopi wrote:
Now that Stephano is in korea, I hope they'll stop sending out HerO in proleague.


Would be stupid considering he's the better player.

Lol are you kidding or something?

Why am I not surprised to see France as your country?


Why am I not surprised to see TeamLiquid.net full of HerO fanbois...

On a more rational note, the thing is that Stephano in top shape is one of the best ZvP players. At the same time, HerO's shape right now is looking pretty poor, or at least his mental form is (which is just as important as his in-game skills).


Don't have to be a HerO/TL fanboy to know HerO's the better player.


Actually I'd shade Stephano when both of them are at their best. I'd put HerO on Thorzains level - exceptionally talented but terribly inconsistant. Taeja is beyond both of them.

IMO Stephanos probably the all round strongest player EG-TL have other than Taeja. He rarely, if ever, shows a weak game. HerO is so flippy floppy I'm surprised he doesn't turn under the air conditioning. That's not taking away from his talent, but he's just not as good as people make out.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12980 Posts
January 09 2013 12:09 GMT
#1635
On January 09 2013 20:59 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 20:58 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 Poopi wrote:
Now that Stephano is in korea, I hope they'll stop sending out HerO in proleague.


Would be stupid considering he's the better player.

Lol are you kidding or something?

Why am I not surprised to see France as your country?

What does it change?
I very often want Stephano to lose despite being french.
WriterMaru
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
January 09 2013 12:09 GMT
#1636
On January 09 2013 21:08 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:02 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:59 thesums wrote:
Not sure why the commentators always say hero is one of the best protoss... lol And everyone thinks that he is going to do well in the tournaments. He only does well in foreign ones lol

And nerve issues? It is obviously because he knows the Korean players are better than those foreign tournaments.


He is one of the best but he has nerve issues. He's made ro8 and ro4 in Code S lol.


How can he still have nerve issues?


They're not something that just magically disappear..
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 12:10:21
January 09 2013 12:09 GMT
#1637
On January 09 2013 21:06 ThePlayer33 wrote:
bomber vs byul is the most anticipated match now


ByuL should win, his ZvT always was his stellar matchup, even back in fnatic

Bomber doesnt look as mighty in TvZ

Still rooting for Bomber, really cant cheer for ByuL anymore anywhere =,=
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
January 09 2013 12:10 GMT
#1638
stream is lagging horribly even on SQ now D:

9:30 byun moves out with a small force, genius catches them in the middle of the map, no big losses
thermal lance done, byun going for a drop
~105 v 105 supply
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
January 09 2013 12:10 GMT
#1639
On January 09 2013 21:08 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:05 Bowzar wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:00 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:56 stuchiu wrote:
The more Byul wins, the smarter Fionn looks.


Some people can recognize talent, most can't. Or they just don't follow as much SC2 as they claim.

I personally am proud of my predictions with regards to ByuL (since his GSTL Fnatic appearance) and Life (since his online bonjwa status).


I miss the Korean weeklies so much. I knew how good Life, Taeja and Hack were before everybody else did.



Hey I knew Life would win something big in the mid 2011.

:D

In late 2011 I predicted Taeja to win a GSL in 2012. So close >.<
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
January 09 2013 12:10 GMT
#1640
Why are people talking about Stephano? Is he playing? LOL!

Man, stream just dead for me. I don't know what's going on.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
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