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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
January 03 2013 00:44 GMT
#101
I sometimes can never comprehend Lucky's decisions.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
January 03 2013 00:44 GMT
#102
Puma wins 2 games, sensational!
Hollandrock
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 00:45:45
January 03 2013 00:44 GMT
#103
That was so good from Puma!

Insane micro and then awesome multitasking to push lucky out!


Why can't he do that in proleague.. TT
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 03 2013 00:45 GMT
#104
On January 03 2013 09:35 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:34 Schelim wrote:
who's the guy that isn't Kevin Knocke? sorry, never watch this tournament.


Kibbels
IPL caster. Never did any other big one.

thanks man.

not sure what to make of this game. what the hell was that random roach max attack about lol
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 03 2013 00:45 GMT
#105
Damnit Lucky, what kind of game plan is that ?
Maxout on Ling roach and attack into late infestor and die ? This isn't ZvP you fool :<
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 03 2013 00:46 GMT
#106
It's not a good sign for a player if he loses to PuMa right now, and then in a ZvT even.

Strange times.

Btw, those games were definitely played on the 14th, this checks out with the one win and one loss I saw in Choyas match history, no clue what the other results are. Just keep watching the IGN VLC player, guys. ^_^
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
January 03 2013 00:46 GMT
#107
On January 03 2013 09:45 Noocta wrote:
Damnit Lucky, what kind of game plan is that ?
Maxout on Ling roach and attack into late infestor and die ? This isn't ZvP you fool :<


He was trying to emulate HyuN vs INoVation on the same map, but forgot the Banelings and Infestors.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 03 2013 00:46 GMT
#108
Matches like that reminds me of how lucky fell from grace to quickly.

Still I'm surprised puma has two wins without using his OP 11/11 lift.
Glorious SEA doto
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
January 03 2013 00:46 GMT
#109
On January 03 2013 09:45 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:35 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:34 Schelim wrote:
who's the guy that isn't Kevin Knocke? sorry, never watch this tournament.


Kibbels
IPL caster. Never did any other big one.

thanks man.

not sure what to make of this game. what the hell was that random roach max attack about lol


you are still around? lol ^^
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
Sumadin
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark588 Posts
January 03 2013 00:47 GMT
#110
Wonder if FXO will get serrious now and send out Gumiho or Leenock. I don't think they can let this get out of hand.
The basic key to beating a priest is playing a deck that is terrible.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 03 2013 00:47 GMT
#111
On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that

You can always 2rax on Entombed.


From who ? Thorzain ? lol

Puma all kill, duh.


Well, we'll see.
Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d

edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year.
I still remember him in IPL3 finals

I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly.


Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 03 2013 00:48 GMT
#112
On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that

You can always 2rax on Entombed.


From who ? Thorzain ? lol

Puma all kill, duh.


Well, we'll see.
Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d

edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year.
I still remember him in IPL3 finals

I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly.


Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts.

Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg.
Glorious SEA doto
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 03 2013 00:49 GMT
#113
On January 03 2013 09:47 Sumadin wrote:
Wonder if FXO will get serrious now and send out Gumiho or Leenock. I don't think they can let this get out of hand.


Tear could clean up the rest of EG, he's the Code B Bonjwa.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
January 03 2013 00:49 GMT
#114
On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that

You can always 2rax on Entombed.


From who ? Thorzain ? lol

Puma all kill, duh.


Well, we'll see.
Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d

edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year.
I still remember him in IPL3 finals

I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly.


Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts.


Well, BL/Infestor became popularized, and Roach busts was popular for a time, so he was a harbinger of the future.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 03 2013 00:49 GMT
#115
On January 03 2013 09:46 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:45 Noocta wrote:
Damnit Lucky, what kind of game plan is that ?
Maxout on Ling roach and attack into late infestor and die ? This isn't ZvP you fool :<


He was trying to emulate HyuN vs INoVation on the same map, but forgot the Banelings and Infestors.


HyuN attacks quite earlier in his own build
Puma had very late tanks, like 6 medivacs before starting the techlab on factory, and still had 2 tanks with siege up. That's not supposed to happen :/

" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 03 2013 00:50 GMT
#116
On January 03 2013 09:49 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:47 Sumadin wrote:
Wonder if FXO will get serrious now and send out Gumiho or Leenock. I don't think they can let this get out of hand.


Tear could clean up the rest of EG, he's the Code B Bonjwa.

I wonder if yonghwa simply swapped soul with tear to condemn him to a life of code B greatness.
Glorious SEA doto
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 03 2013 00:51 GMT
#117
On January 03 2013 09:46 green.at wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:45 Schelim wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:35 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:34 Schelim wrote:
who's the guy that isn't Kevin Knocke? sorry, never watch this tournament.


Kibbels
IPL caster. Never did any other big one.

thanks man.

not sure what to make of this game. what the hell was that random roach max attack about lol


you are still around? lol ^^

please don't take offense to this, but who are you again? :D your nick seems familiar and you're obviously austrian too...
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 00:53:34
January 03 2013 00:53 GMT
#118
On January 03 2013 09:48 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that

You can always 2rax on Entombed.


From who ? Thorzain ? lol

Puma all kill, duh.


Well, we'll see.
Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d

edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year.
I still remember him in IPL3 finals

I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly.


Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts.

Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg.


Not on maps like Terminus and Antiga Shipyard. Terrans complained that they could not read the fast tech or break the infestor line at the junction between the three bases. I believe the pre-BL timing attacks started to originate during this time period and once terrans learned they could outmacro the strategy as well, it died out.

On January 03 2013 09:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that

You can always 2rax on Entombed.


From who ? Thorzain ? lol

Puma all kill, duh.


Well, we'll see.
Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d

edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year.
I still remember him in IPL3 finals

I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly.


Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts.


Well, BL/Infestor became popularized, and Roach busts was popular for a time, so he was a harbinger of the future.


True, but I did not like his playstyle. He did not display good micro or positioning or consistent decision-making.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 03 2013 00:54 GMT
#119
On January 03 2013 09:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:48 Fusilero wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that

You can always 2rax on Entombed.


From who ? Thorzain ? lol

Puma all kill, duh.


Well, we'll see.
Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d

edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year.
I still remember him in IPL3 finals

I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly.


Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts.

Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg.


Not on maps like Terminus and Antiga Shipyard. Terrans complained that they could not read the fast tech or break the infestor line at the junction between the three bases. I believe the pre-BL timing attacks started to originate during this time period and once terrans learned they could outmacro the strategy as well, it died out.

Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that

You can always 2rax on Entombed.


From who ? Thorzain ? lol

Puma all kill, duh.


Well, we'll see.
Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d

edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year.
I still remember him in IPL3 finals

I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly.


Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts.


Well, BL/Infestor became popularized, and Roach busts was popular for a time, so he was a harbinger of the future.


True, but I did not like his playstyle. He did not display good micro or positioning or consistent decision-making.


I guess you could say, that he was just...lucky!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 03 2013 00:55 GMT
#120
On January 03 2013 09:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 09:48 Fusilero wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:
On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that

You can always 2rax on Entombed.


From who ? Thorzain ? lol

Puma all kill, duh.


Well, we'll see.
Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d

edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year.
I still remember him in IPL3 finals

I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly.


Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts.

Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg.


Not on maps like Terminus and Antiga Shipyard. Terrans complained that they could not read the fast tech or break the infestor line at the junction between the three bases. I believe the pre-BL timing attacks started to originate during this time period and once terrans learned they could outmacro the strategy as well, it died out.


Not to forget Mvp ghosts games happend quite early after that, so people weren't already mad at the zerg composition
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
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