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On January 03 2013 09:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 09:48 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that You can always 2rax on Entombed.  From who ? Thorzain ? lol Puma all kill, duh. Well, we'll see. Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year. I still remember him in IPL3 finals I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly. Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts. Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg. Not on maps like Terminus and Antiga Shipyard. Terrans complained that they could not read the fast tech or break the infestor line at the junction between the three bases. I believe the pre-BL timing attacks started to originate during this time period and once terrans learned they could outmacro the strategy as well, it died out. Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 09:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that You can always 2rax on Entombed. From who ? Thorzain ? lol Puma all kill, duh. Well, we'll see. Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year. I still remember him in IPL3 finals I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly. Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts. Well, BL/Infestor became popularized, and Roach busts was popular for a time, so he was a harbinger of the future. True, but I did not like his playstyle. He did not display good micro or positioning or consistent decision-making.
And that is why Lucky is irrelevant today.
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On January 03 2013 09:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 09:48 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that You can always 2rax on Entombed. From who ? Thorzain ? lol Puma all kill, duh. Well, we'll see. Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year. I still remember him in IPL3 finals I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly. Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts. Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg. Not on maps like Terminus and Antiga Shipyard. Terrans complained that they could not read the fast tech or break the infestor line at the junction between the three bases. I believe the pre-BL timing attacks started to originate during this time period and once terrans learned they could outmacro the strategy as well, it died out. Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 09:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that You can always 2rax on Entombed. From who ? Thorzain ? lol Puma all kill, duh. Well, we'll see. Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year. I still remember him in IPL3 finals I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly. Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts. Well, BL/Infestor became popularized, and Roach busts was popular for a time, so he was a harbinger of the future. True, but I did not like his playstyle. He did not display good micro or positioning or consistent decision-making.
He had that one crazy base trade game against Mvp I think, where he had an almost purely air army with corrupor/brood lord and walked spine crawlers around, that was fun. Nowadays he'd get terrible hate for it, most likely.
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On January 03 2013 09:55 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 09:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:48 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:On January 03 2013 09:24 Noocta wrote:
Blowing Antiga for a TvP feel like a very bad idea to me...
You only have very few chances of beating Leenock, don't waste the main anti zerg map in the pool like that You can always 2rax on Entombed. From who ? Thorzain ? lol Puma all kill, duh. Well, we'll see. Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year. I still remember him in IPL3 finals I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly. Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts. Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg. Not on maps like Terminus and Antiga Shipyard. Terrans complained that they could not read the fast tech or break the infestor line at the junction between the three bases. I believe the pre-BL timing attacks started to originate during this time period and once terrans learned they could outmacro the strategy as well, it died out. Not to forget Mvp ghosts games happend quite early after that, so people weren't already mad at the zerg composition
I think it happened before then. Wasn't Blizzcon in October 2011?
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puma looks as dead as a terran can be against toss :D
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On January 03 2013 09:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 09:55 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:48 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:25 StarVe wrote:[quote] You can always 2rax on Entombed. From who ? Thorzain ? lol Puma all kill, duh. Well, we'll see. Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year. I still remember him in IPL3 finals I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly. Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts. Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg. Not on maps like Terminus and Antiga Shipyard. Terrans complained that they could not read the fast tech or break the infestor line at the junction between the three bases. I believe the pre-BL timing attacks started to originate during this time period and once terrans learned they could outmacro the strategy as well, it died out. Not to forget Mvp ghosts games happend quite early after that, so people weren't already mad at the zerg composition I think it happened before then. Wasn't Blizzcon in October 2011?
I think so, people really saw Lucky's BL/Infestor in Assembly, which was in Feb 2012.
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On January 03 2013 10:01 MangoMountain wrote:
Is tear still in code b?
Code Bonjwa.
Yeah, he is.
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On January 03 2013 10:01 MangoMountain wrote:
Is tear still in code b?
Yep, though he shows some pretty strong Code A play, and occasionally Code S level.
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On January 03 2013 10:01 MangoMountain wrote:
Is tear still in code b?
He's the new Yonhgwa
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Tear is one of the best players if not the best who never qualified for GSL.
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On January 03 2013 09:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 09:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:55 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:48 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On January 03 2013 09:27 Noocta wrote:
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From who ? Thorzain ? lol Puma all kill, duh. Well, we'll see. Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year. I still remember him in IPL3 finals I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly. Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts. Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg. Not on maps like Terminus and Antiga Shipyard. Terrans complained that they could not read the fast tech or break the infestor line at the junction between the three bases. I believe the pre-BL timing attacks started to originate during this time period and once terrans learned they could outmacro the strategy as well, it died out. Not to forget Mvp ghosts games happend quite early after that, so people weren't already mad at the zerg composition I think it happened before then. Wasn't Blizzcon in October 2011? I think so, people really saw Lucky's BL/Infestor in Assembly, which was in Feb 2012.
He had that match against MVP where MVP actually ended up backdooring lucky with siege tanks vs his brood/infestor.
I mostly remember that series for teaching me the entombed valley bunker rush position.
On January 03 2013 10:03 StarVe wrote:
Tear is one of the best players if not the best who never qualified for GSL.
With yonghwa making it I believe he now holds that honour either tear or hero[join], seems to be a protoss thing to be a code B bonjwa you don't hear of any zerg/terran code B bonjwas.
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Dude proxy 7rax is legit. Don't hate 
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On January 03 2013 10:04 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 09:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:On January 03 2013 09:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:55 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:48 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
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Puma all kill, duh. Well, we'll see. Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year. I still remember him in IPL3 finals I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly. Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts. Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg. Not on maps like Terminus and Antiga Shipyard. Terrans complained that they could not read the fast tech or break the infestor line at the junction between the three bases. I believe the pre-BL timing attacks started to originate during this time period and once terrans learned they could outmacro the strategy as well, it died out. Not to forget Mvp ghosts games happend quite early after that, so people weren't already mad at the zerg composition I think it happened before then. Wasn't Blizzcon in October 2011? I think so, people really saw Lucky's BL/Infestor in Assembly, which was in Feb 2012. He had that match against MVP where MVP actually ended up backdooring lucky with siege tanks vs his brood/infestor. I mostly remember that series for teaching me the entombed valley bunker rush position. Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 10:03 StarVe wrote:
Tear is one of the best players if not the best who never qualified for GSL. With yonghwa making it I believe he now holds that honour either tear or hero[join], seems to be a protoss thing to be a code B bonjwa you don't hear of any zerg/terran code B bonjwas.
since DRG anyways
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On January 03 2013 10:11 Jaeger wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 10:04 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:On January 03 2013 09:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:55 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:48 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:31 Noocta wrote:
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Well, we'll see.
Was saying that assuming Choya won. :d
edit : damn, Lucky. That guy fall of the scene so hard this year.
I still remember him in IPL3 finals I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly. Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts. Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg. Not on maps like Terminus and Antiga Shipyard. Terrans complained that they could not read the fast tech or break the infestor line at the junction between the three bases. I believe the pre-BL timing attacks started to originate during this time period and once terrans learned they could outmacro the strategy as well, it died out. Not to forget Mvp ghosts games happend quite early after that, so people weren't already mad at the zerg composition I think it happened before then. Wasn't Blizzcon in October 2011? I think so, people really saw Lucky's BL/Infestor in Assembly, which was in Feb 2012. He had that match against MVP where MVP actually ended up backdooring lucky with siege tanks vs his brood/infestor. I mostly remember that series for teaching me the entombed valley bunker rush position. On January 03 2013 10:03 StarVe wrote:
Tear is one of the best players if not the best who never qualified for GSL. With yonghwa making it I believe he now holds that honour either tear or hero[join], seems to be a protoss thing to be a code B bonjwa you don't hear of any zerg/terran code B bonjwas. since DRG anyways
Forgot about DRG feels like forever since DRG and TheStc for some reason always failed to make code A but there's definitely many more protoss code bonjwas than there have been terran/zerg code bonjwas.
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On January 03 2013 10:04 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 10:03 StarVe wrote:
Tear is one of the best players if not the best who never qualified for GSL. With yonghwa making it I believe he now holds that honour either tear or hero[join], seems to be a protoss thing to be a code B bonjwa you don't hear of any zerg/terran code B bonjwas.
And herO will stay there for a while, Artosis cursed him! 
On January 03 2013 10:13 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 10:11 Jaeger wrote:On January 03 2013 10:04 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:On January 03 2013 09:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:55 Noocta wrote:On January 03 2013 09:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:48 Fusilero wrote:On January 03 2013 09:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 03 2013 09:37 Fusilero wrote:
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I remember the like 2 months where lucky was considered a contender for one of the best zergs. Oh how did that fall apart quickly. Damn, those were sad times. Dude just abused fast 3 base broodlord/infestor and roach busts. Back when fast broodlord/infestor made you a mad man rather than an average zerg. Not on maps like Terminus and Antiga Shipyard. Terrans complained that they could not read the fast tech or break the infestor line at the junction between the three bases. I believe the pre-BL timing attacks started to originate during this time period and once terrans learned they could outmacro the strategy as well, it died out. Not to forget Mvp ghosts games happend quite early after that, so people weren't already mad at the zerg composition I think it happened before then. Wasn't Blizzcon in October 2011? I think so, people really saw Lucky's BL/Infestor in Assembly, which was in Feb 2012. He had that match against MVP where MVP actually ended up backdooring lucky with siege tanks vs his brood/infestor. I mostly remember that series for teaching me the entombed valley bunker rush position. On January 03 2013 10:03 StarVe wrote:
Tear is one of the best players if not the best who never qualified for GSL. With yonghwa making it I believe he now holds that honour either tear or hero[join], seems to be a protoss thing to be a code B bonjwa you don't hear of any zerg/terran code B bonjwas. since DRG anyways Forgot about DRG feels like forever since DRG and TheStc for some reason always failed to make code A but there's definitely many more protoss code bonjwas than there have been terran/zerg code bonjwas.
Who was there, really, apart from Yonghwa? Seed eventually got in, you can list him, but who else? I can't actually remember.
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my god this is a passive game. someone do something agreesive!
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I miss the old mouz team league hit squad of Thorzain, Morrow, Mana and Hasu.
I'd be so much more emotionally invested if they were playing, with EGThorzain I'm just kind of impartial because I also like Tear.
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On January 03 2013 10:17 DODswe4 wrote:
my god this is a passive game. someone do something agreesive!
It is the Spoon Terran you are talking about.
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On January 03 2013 10:20 StarVe wrote:I miss the old mouz team league hit squad of Thorzain, Morrow, Mana and Hasu. I'd be so much more emotionally invested if they were playing, with EGThorzain I'm just kind of impartial, because I also like Tear.
The 4 man win every foreign tournament hit squad was so awesome, I guess acer kind of has that thing going with naarchio, bly, scarlett and MMA/Paranoid.
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