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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/otwg8.png) Tuesday, Dec 25 6:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Round_1 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/c/c6/Uk.png) twitch.tv![[image loading]](/images/flags2/kr.png) Korean Stream (need to install plugin)Casters: Supernovamaniac and Whiplash ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jiTad.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LBr19.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ufhoR.png)  Flying <Bifrost> Trap hOn_sin <Planet S> BogusLight <Arkanoid>  hyvaasHy <Caldeum> Last ZerO <Tal'Darim Altar> Size Neo.G_Soulkey <Ohana> Dear+ Show Spoiler [Ace] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bv8Kw.png) + Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] + + Show Spoiler [Overall Results] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WdLE8.png) + Show Spoiler + | ||
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onPHYRE
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
Wonder who's gonna come out on top. STX using their most powerful players in the first three matches while Woongjin elects to save its own aces for the final three. Should be interesting. | ||
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WetSocks
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DMXD
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Dubzex
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jnd
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Hall0wed
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Dodgin
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corpsepose
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go stx! | ||
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StarStruck
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Sinensis
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StarStruck
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On December 25 2012 16:36 Sinensis wrote: I'm trying to find this in the naver tv plugin but all I can find is soccer... Someone should post the Korean stream as soon as it becomes available. Same channel if you are following the links. It's on now. I approve the wardrobe change. Spiffy! | ||
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Mistletoes
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
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Meteora.GB
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StarStruck
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On December 25 2012 16:40 Onlinejaguar wrote: So i take it Christmas isn't much of a thing in korea? since they are having matches today. The show always goes on when it's PL. Vacations are scarce. | ||
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Talionis
Scotland4085 Posts
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On December 25 2012 16:38 StarStruck wrote: Same channel if you are following the links. It's on now. I approve the wardrobe change. Spiffy! Always love their outfits: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xayCw.png) LOL too funny + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4MUif.png) | ||
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EsMuyVien
United States408 Posts
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forsooth
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On December 25 2012 16:41 Meteora.GB wrote: ... There's home and away colours for teams? I think the Korean team is the home one. | ||
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StarStruck
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
Haaa, yes! I took a screenshot of that yesterday too! Edit: Speaking of screenshots, one could have snapped korean girls' actual faces for a bit there. The one on the left was unusually unfazed though! | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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Taryssa
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Dosey
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AlternativeEgo
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
On December 25 2012 16:48 AlternativeEgo wrote: Kid is pleased with his FPL team He must have Taeja on his team. | ||
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Fuchsteufelswild
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Release
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Scholes
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Dubzex
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opterown
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 25 2012 16:28 Fionn wrote: So did Light go on some sort of two month hyperbolic time chamber training session with Ryu Won? He was 5-1, vanished (didn't even show up for Code A qualifiers), and now reappears at the end of R1. I think he was sick, that was why he didn't get sent out in the first few rounds. | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
8) | ||
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Lovedoll
Japan540 Posts
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Winterfell
United States170 Posts
On December 25 2012 16:57 simmeh wrote: one could say, flying has his opponent trapped.... 8) I see what you did there... ROFL well played sir... well played :-) | ||
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Winterfell
United States170 Posts
EDIT: and again! | ||
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DMXD
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:02 DMXD wrote: really fun pvp so far. and here comes the lasers! /sigh | ||
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Meteora.GB
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glzElectromaster
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Winterfell
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forsooth
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JBright
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Sein
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lololol | ||
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whirlpool
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Winterfell
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Veldril
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yakitate304
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Dosey
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StarStruck
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That gif is so awesome lmao. | ||
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:12 yakitate304 wrote: And now Flying gets dropped from my team. I'd be careful with that. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
I'm going to be laughing about this for at least a week. This gif sums up the entire PvP match up. | ||
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Talionis
Scotland4085 Posts
What will you proxy this time... | ||
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:16 Talionis wrote: oh Bravo. What will you proxy this time... Supply depot so he can get vision on the high ground :D | ||
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omnikaush
United States49 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:18 omnikaush wrote: is someone updating the results? JBright/OP you there? | ||
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
nvm | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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I might just come out of retirement after new years. | ||
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DMXD
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StarStruck
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On December 25 2012 17:21 JBright wrote: Yes. I had it ready but forgot to press the update button.  Stupid tech issues. On December 25 2012 17:22 DMXD wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9R8X8ObdwM&list=LL06icR1AczF-agm_qbI_VpQ Dan and his Bose headphones. -.- | ||
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Fuchsteufelswild
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Opera
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Veldril
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:25 Opera wrote: Why do Korean girls hide their face from camera ? They find it embarrassing. That or they have heard of TL users who screencap for pleasure. | ||
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StarStruck
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On December 25 2012 17:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: I might just come out of retirement after new years.  Don't overdo it bro. I could never do LR the way you guys do it now. Too exhausting. | ||
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StarStruck
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Veldril
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On December 25 2012 17:29 StarStruck wrote: Don't overdo it bro. I could never do LR the way you guys do it now. Too exhausting. I tried did it once during the hybrid proleague season. I don't think I have enough energy to do it again  | ||
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:29 StarStruck wrote: Don't overdo it bro. I could never do LR the way you guys do it now. Too exhausting. I could do what I did for that one game I LR'd (a recap), but I need to finish all of my work first. Too busy T_T I don't know how Shellshock or Opterown do it. | ||
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StarStruck
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On December 25 2012 17:31 glzElectromaster wrote: I could do what I did for that one game I LR'd (a recap), but I need to finish all of my work first. Too busy T_T I don't know how Shellshock or Opterown do it. They aren't human; they're machines. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:31 Veldril wrote: I tried did it once during the hybrid proleague season. I don't think I have enough energy to do it again maybe because it was frankenleague ;p i might write a retrospective/guide on managing LRs sometime | ||
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Hier
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JBright
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:36 JBright wrote: Technically I don't LR, I just update the OP that opterown creates from the LR resource thread. Putting an OP up and updating is already quite a lot of work already. If you also LR it, you clearly aren't human | ||
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Megaliskuu
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glzElectromaster
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zerotol
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OhThatDang
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:38 zerotol wrote: Guys whats up with the casters, is this still a TL-EG cast or?? nope different set from KesPa | ||
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Thrillz
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StarStruck
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On December 25 2012 17:37 Veldril wrote: Putting an OP up and updating is already quite a lot of work already. If you also LR it, you clearly aren't human I tried LRing EVO. Never again. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:25 Opera wrote: Why do Korean girls hide their face from camera ? + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i47.tinypic.com/35n3gna.jpg) | ||
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Talionis
Scotland4085 Posts
 Nice try Bravo though. | ||
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StarStruck
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Susie's not afraid. | ||
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Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
LOL | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:41 Talionis wrote: Fake proxy fail Nice try Bravo though. Bravo plays funny...anyone see the mad game he played against Taeja where he did a sort of 1/1/1 with the rax and fact proxied, it got scouted but still did a lot of damage and kept Taeja contained the whole game. I hated it but I gotta respect the guys balls. | ||
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StarStruck
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On December 25 2012 17:44 The KY wrote: Bravo plays funny...anyone see the mad game he played against Taeja where he did a sort of 1/1/1 with the rax and fact proxied, it got scouted but still did a lot of damage and kept Taeja contained the whole game. I hated it but I gotta respect the guys balls. Yeah TaeJa on 1 gas for practically the whole game and still wins. lol He had no follow-up. He was like, "What do I do now?" ._. | ||
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forsooth
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DMXD
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synaptik
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StarStruck
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On December 25 2012 17:49 synaptik wrote: how can leenock's dad forget siege mode? He went into Stork mode. | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:49 synaptik wrote: how can leenock's dad forget siege mode? Haha, that is cold blooded. | ||
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forsooth
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glzElectromaster
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On December 25 2012 17:49 synaptik wrote: how can leenock's dad forget siege mode? who happens to be July's younger brother? | ||
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Veldril
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forsooth
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Meteora.GB
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On December 25 2012 17:55 Fragile51 wrote: Aside from the siege tank fuckup this is a pretty amazing tvt, constant action all over the map, battlecruiser transitions it's great :D I haven't looked at the map very much but I think its pretty awesome. Think it may have to do with tight chokepoints and how the terrain is laid out. Either way, its awesome. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:55 woody60707 wrote: Did I hear that nothing bets mass BC? Odd i never seen a pro game where mass BCs won. That's because noone ever gets to mass bc, apart from ...you know...that game | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:55 woody60707 wrote: Did I hear that nothing bets mass BC? Odd i never seen a pro game where mass BCs won. Mass BCs isn't really a thing because it sucks. Players make 2-4 in TvT and that's it. | ||
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Laryleprakon
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Thrillz
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woody60707
United States1863 Posts
On December 25 2012 17:57 forsooth wrote: Mass BCs isn't really a thing because it sucks. Players make 2-4 in TvT and that's it. Yea, that makes sense. It's kinda like a tanky Banshee to take out the tanks. | ||
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United States66 Posts
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Fragile51
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On December 25 2012 18:01 Meteora.GB wrote: Wait how did the ravens die? Single thor shot killed them all. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
EDIT: But thinking about it, it's really this map allowing Innovation to play with mech style imo. | ||
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woody60707
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I thought it was like 3 thors? | ||
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
Oh wow lol... and here I thought the PDDs were still operational. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:04 Meteora.GB wrote: Oh wow lol... and here I thought the PDDs were still operational. Their radius is pretty small, have to take care not to stray outside it. | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
but innovation taking land control all over the map | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38199 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:04 rj rl wrote: Here you go, just add some kespa-made maps, some good kespa-terrans and you have bw-style TvT in sc2! It even offers some references to wraith\bc late game mech. It's exactly the same as hundreds of TvT's that have been played since 2011. Bogus committing to an air battle right before his 3/3 upgrades finish, but it doesn't really matter. | ||
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JBright
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DMXD
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gg good game. | ||
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glzElectromaster
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Vanadium
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Pretty rad game, though. | ||
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meep
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:10 tuestresfat wrote: just tuned in, how are these casters? Not great, but definitely not terrible. They're both inexperienced. I'll wait until Round 2 is done to give them a fair review. | ||
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rj rl
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On December 25 2012 18:08 Asha` wrote: It's exactly the same as hundreds of TvT's that have been played since 2011. Bogus committing to an air battle right before his 3/3 upgrades finish, but it doesn't really matter. hundreds of TvT's ended up in a 200\200 battle, not in the war of attrition, just look at the minimap here - glorious siege lines, the game of symmetries. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:12 rj rl wrote: hundreds of TvT's ended up in a 200\200 battle, not in the war of attrition, just look at the minimap here - glorious siege lines, the game of symmetries. these kinds of games were really common in late 2011 but then sort of faded away as mech vs mech became less and less common. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:09 glzElectromaster wrote: Pretty fun game. But my FPL is going to shit this week. At least Taeja won his match and the ace! lol... Mine went to shit a long time ago when I picked Jaedong for my anti-team and then when he started to win more had to switch him for another high rated zerg that I thought would underperform, Effort, who keeps winning as well D: The only good decisions I made were picking Flash and CJ Entus, and also soO for relatively cheap after seeing him beat MKP. The rest of my picks were fucking terrible. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:14 Dodgin wrote: these kinds of games were really common in late 2011 but then sort of faded away as mech vs mech became less and less common. MKP's bio style during the beginning of 2012 kinda teared this style apart so people reverted back to the Marine-Tank more and more. | ||
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rj rl
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SupLilSon
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:16 Veldril wrote: MKP's bio style during the beginning of 2012 kinda teared this style apart so people reverted back to the Marine-Tank more and more. A lot of the maps also got bigger with less chokes so this type of play wasn't as favored. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:16 rj rl wrote: Yeah guys i've been following the scene as well, but i honestly do not remember much games as strategic as this one. They would pretty often end by a good\terrible run by. Mvp vs TOP g1 GSL August | ||
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Dodgin
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It's funny because at the time tasteless and artosis were freaking out saying " this is the best TvT you guys have ever seen, it's the future of TvT's " and a year and a half later here we are with most TvT's being marine/tank or cheese and ending before the supreme lategame. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:17 SupLilSon wrote: Light doesnt really have any stats for TvZ but apparently his BW TvZ was pretty solid according to Liquipedia. BW guys have any predictions on what we will see from him? if Light can keep his dominance from his BW TvZ, should be easy win for him | ||
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:20 Dodgin wrote: It's funny because at the time tasteless and artosis were freaking out saying " this is the best TvT you guys have ever seen, it's the future of TvT's " and a year and a half later here we are with most TvT's being marine/tank or cheese and ending before the supreme lategame. It's the map pool man. So many open places and huge chokes. Sigh I miss the glory days of GomTvT | ||
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rj rl
648 Posts
i remember this one, but it shines bright because of extreme rareness, that was my point. We need more of those. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:20 Dodgin wrote: It's funny because at the time tasteless and artosis were freaking out saying " this is the best TvT you guys have ever seen, it's the future of TvT's " and a year and a half later here we are with most TvT's being marine/tank or cheese and ending before the supreme lategame. And by mentioning that game makes me realize that Daybreak has been in the map pool for a very very very long time... (16 months already). | ||
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:21 amazingxkcd wrote: if Light can keep his dominance from his BW TvZ, should be easy win for him LighT is a freaking proleague monster and a beast in general. I hope his skills transferred over well this season. He didn't look too bad during the Frankenleague, but everyone was pretty bad at the time. | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:17 SupLilSon wrote: Light doesnt really have any stats for TvZ but apparently his BW TvZ was pretty solid according to Liquipedia. BW guys have any predictions on what we will see from him? His BW TvZ was one of the best there was. But BW and SC2 are different games. I can only wish he is as good at SC2 TvZ as he was in BW. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:22 sashkata wrote: His BW TvZ was one of the best there was. But BW and SC2 are different games. I can only wish he is as good at SC2 TvZ as he was in BW. #ibelieve. Come on light! | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:22 rj rl wrote: i remember this one, but it shines bright because of extreme rareness, that was my point. We need more of those. It's just really rare to get a TvT that fills the correct criteria for that kind of game. First there has to be no cheese or it has to stabilize, then they both have to not die until being stuck on 3 or even 4 bases is not enough economy to keep reproducing, then you need them to both be going mech and not bio. the game we just saw was definitely one of the best positional mech vs mech games I've ever seen, which is to be expected since the level of play has risen so much since 2011. comparing it to those old games is kind of unfair. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:20 Dodgin wrote: It's funny because at the time tasteless and artosis were freaking out saying " this is the best TvT you guys have ever seen, it's the future of TvT's " and a year and a half later here we are with most TvT's being marine/tank or cheese and ending before the supreme lategame. I think the maps have a lot to do with it. Daybreak and CK probably are the best maps for mech. But maps like WW, Abysal are just really hard to do mech on. And even Antiga, Ohana, entombed has really large middle areas were you can get flanked very easily. | ||
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:22 sashkata wrote: His BW TvZ was one of the best there was. But BW and SC2 are different games. I can only wish he is as good at SC2 TvZ as he was in BW. Hey, at least Fantasy's bio control is improved for TvZ so it's not all lost right (until you let Zerg techs up to Infestor/BL comfortably). | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:22 glzElectromaster wrote: LighT is a freaking proleague monster and a beast in general. I hope his skills transferred over well this season. He didn't look too bad during the Frankenleague, but everyone was pretty bad at the time. It may also have to do with his motivation since Bio is easier to control mechanically, but zerg is harder to play against. I hope he can become a beast again | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:24 simmeh wrote: i would eat a sock to hear artosis cast these live proleague games I agree so much that I've already started looking for a clean sock. I want it so bad. | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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DMXD
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Seporo
France61 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:24 OhThatDang wrote: someone fix his mic lol I dare not say that I wish otherwise. But I really do. | ||
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simmeh
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Fuchsteufelswild
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Seporo, I saw your previous wording! (It was better) | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:32 simmeh wrote: mr browder must like this map It's a product of his wet dreams. | ||
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
It has his stamp of approval. Double approval. | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:32 simmeh wrote: mr browder must like this map Actually he should hate it ... because the rocks are destructible and disappear automatically after 20 minutes. | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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glzElectromaster
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DemigodcelpH
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And he's like 80% in every match-up. | ||
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amazingxkcd
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Splynn
United States225 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:39 corpsepose wrote: why did i trade light away TT Probably for the same reason I did; he wasn't being played. Good player, but I think he's coaching now more than playing. If he starts seeing more playtime he's a very good pickup for anyone. His skillset seems to have transferred really well from BW. | ||
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RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:38 DemigodcelpH wrote: This Terran has god-tier macro... he was like 170 supply at 13 minutes and beating the Zerg. And he's like 80% in every match-up. The map lends itself to macro Terran because you can take quick 3 CC and go heavy SCVs early game. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:41 RiZu wrote: Holy shit the return of Light haha. Wondering why WJS didn't send him out previously. Might kept him practicing on Arkanoid until he has like 60%+ in all match up on that map before sending him out | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:38 DemigodcelpH wrote: Yeah, later in the game he was supply blocked for like 3 minutes...This Terran has god-tier macro... he was like 170 supply at 13 minutes and beating the Zerg. And he's like 80% in every match-up. | ||
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Ophe
Sweden388 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:40 Splynn wrote: Probably for the same reason I did; he wasn't being played. Good player, but I think he's coaching now more than playing. If he starts seeing more playtime he's a very good pickup for anyone. His skillset seems to have transferred really well from BW. I wanted to have him on the main team but since he wasnt in the line-up in first week I decided against it. I've pretty much been waiting for him to get play-time. If he's in next weeks line-up I'll definitely look into trading for him. | ||
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Bulgaria3241 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:41 RiZu wrote: Holy shit the return of Light haha. Wondering why WJS didn't send him out previously. Afaik, Light was sick for the first few weeks. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:43 bduddy wrote: Yeah, later in the game he was supply blocked for like 3 minutes... Well, you still have to consider that there's like 10+ lings in his base and also that there's like 3-4 bunkers going down by those lings. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:43 bduddy wrote: Yeah, later in the game he was supply blocked for like 3 minutes... Yea well he lost like 20 depots in a short span of time... | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:43 bduddy wrote: Yeah, later in the game he was supply blocked for like 3 minutes... Yeah..lets ignore the fact that lings killed a ton of supply depots during 2 run by's. . . . . . . | ||
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
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Australia2028 Posts
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
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dubRa
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
Edit: But hey, it got a different result! | ||
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Japan2474 Posts
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Vancouver14381 Posts
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Blix
Netherlands873 Posts
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
So much for gaining any points today...first Flying, then hon sin, now Shy =/ | ||
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Czech Republic915 Posts
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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Dwayn
Germany949 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18381 Posts
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
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grapedog
United States151 Posts
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:57 bduddy wrote: Is there a reason he just stopped producing units from his gateway? At least that's what it looked like... No chrono, it seemed like. | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
Otherwise his macro slipped while he was micromanaging or he actually didn't have enough resources, I guess. | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
On December 25 2012 19:00 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: bduddy, did you see the stalker pop out in between marines or was there a delay in production before then? Otherwise his macro slipped while he was micromanaging or he actually didn't have enough resources, I guess. Somehow he still had the resources to start the utterly pointless Warp Gate upgrade. There was definitely a gap between the two Stalkers, if he just held the top of his ramp with Probes and that one Stalker while chrono-ing out the second one I think he would have held. | ||
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33327 Posts
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Kazakhstan4130 Posts
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On December 25 2012 19:00 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: After the fight with the first stalker and such (at least 20 seconds), the observer clicked back on the gateway and another stalker was just starting, and I'm pretty sure nothing came out in between, so... Probably just a micro mistake, but not one he could afford to make!bduddy, did you see the stalker pop out in between marines or was there a delay in production before then? Otherwise his macro slipped while he was micromanaging or he actually didn't have enough resources, I guess. | ||
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
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Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
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whirlpool
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Waxangel
United States33327 Posts
fucking stx, win faster | ||
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Austria2995 Posts
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Canada3321 Posts
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grapedog
United States151 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
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Australia2028 Posts
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HolydaKing
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Ophe
Sweden388 Posts
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
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whirlpool
2788 Posts
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
But I hope Woongjin wins this for my Liquibet points. | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On December 25 2012 19:28 whirlpool wrote: zero spammed infested terrans faster yeah possible, was hard for me to see who did haha... | ||
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
On December 25 2012 19:27 HolydaKing wrote: wish i could tell why he lost the deciding battle, perhaps less upgrades? idk... or less terran units? He had the upgrade advantage. It was definitely some infested terran zvz weirdness. | ||
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Locke-
499 Posts
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
On December 25 2012 19:32 Locke- wrote: To-do list: Go to see a SPL game live and do this: Haha, tasteless is golden! Don't know who's the other guy though. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
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whirlpool
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Yaqoob
Canada3321 Posts
On December 25 2012 19:33 ZerglingTwins wrote: Haha, tasteless is golden! Don't know who's the other guy though. I think the other guy is Rekrul iirc | ||
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Fuell
Netherlands3111 Posts
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Locke-
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MiCa
United States147 Posts
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China1014 Posts
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
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GTR
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i like how susie tries to not hide from the camera | ||
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
Dear handled that well. | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
On December 25 2012 19:50 Zerg.Zilla wrote: Retarded play from protoss... Is he trying to go full foreigner? Oh dear I hope he doesn't (pun unintended). | ||
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Asterion
Germany193 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
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grapedog
United States151 Posts
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grapedog
United States151 Posts
On December 25 2012 19:50 Zerg.Zilla wrote: Retarded play from protoss... | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
Hoping for SK in the ace. Bring in the points! | ||
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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dubRa
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
gogo Bogus! (or hyvva, but i dont think he will play^^) Soulkey vs Bogus seems likely? | ||
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grapedog
United States151 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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MiCa
United States147 Posts
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Talionis
Scotland4085 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On December 25 2012 19:57 grapedog wrote: i'd recommend this game if you want to know what happens when you don't wall off, or don't do anything to stop run-by's, or don't push your advantage when you have it. Very instructive game if you want to know how to lose with 2k/2k floating. | ||
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United States134 Posts
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Yaqoob
Canada3321 Posts
On December 25 2012 19:57 Zerg.Zilla wrote: Thats why top tier players make a pylon block as soon as they push out... More like: Any protoss who is even low masters knows that you pylon block when pushing out. Really sad play from dear but I didn't except him to win even on immortal all-in friendly Ohana. | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2750 Posts
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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Talionis
Scotland4085 Posts
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
January isn't coaching STX last I checked. | ||
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Canada2479 Posts
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KyoRai
United States134 Posts
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
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Culture
Canada488 Posts
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GTR
51425 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
Oh lawd the pointssss. | ||
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Germany6583 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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Scotland4085 Posts
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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Australia54784 Posts
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:01 ACrow wrote: Huh? Bogus, Trap both seem to be better...? Exactly, they were the most logical choices. The only reason is possibly Dear is a mapsniper for Cloud Kingdom, that or maybe he begged his coach and teammates to go up here. I honestly hope he redeems himself for that abortion of the last game. | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:00 ChaLei wrote: LOL really?? Dear must have a special build or something He showed us already...Artosis pylons awesome wall in. | ||
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dubRa
2165 Posts
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GTR
51425 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:03 dubRa wrote: so.. it may be that Dear is supposed to be a SK sniper... i have faith TT well if he couldn't do it on ohana of all maps, what makes you think he could he do it on cloud kingdom =/ | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:03 GTR wrote: He could be going for sentry stalker all-in, it is quite strong on CK.well if he couldn't do it on ohana of all maps, why could he do it on cloud kingdom =/ | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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MangoMountain
Norway2044 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:04 Elem wrote: He could be going for sentry stalker all-in, it is quite strong on CK. But why wouldn't they pick Trap for something simple like that? Or for...anything? | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:07 Cel.erity wrote: Idk. I'd preferred Trap. He's on my anti so means i'd get back some points. But why wouldn't they pick Trap for something simple like that? Or for...anything? | ||
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Germany2612 Posts
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Germany32 Posts
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United States134 Posts
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United States1305 Posts
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Belgium4158 Posts
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:12 oneofthem wrote: wtf this guy is "Size" lol Size is zerg. :| | ||
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krutopatkin
Germany2612 Posts
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On December 25 2012 19:59 Saechiis wrote: Soulkey woot. Bring me da points baby! Why do I keepk jynxing myself | ||
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Canada3321 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:16 whirlpool wrote: HAHAH YESsss, i got DEAR , freshly traded You traded to Dear when he had only one game this week and it was a game 6 against soulkey?? You must be psychic | ||
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United States953 Posts
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KyoRai
United States134 Posts
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whirlpool
2788 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:18 Scarecrow wrote: You traded to Dear when he had only one game this week and it was a game 6 against soulkey?? You must be psychic hahaha dunno man, i also got zero and he won, lulzy | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
That revenge is sweet, soulkey is gonna kick himself hard tonight. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:23 opterown wrote: oh, hey, dear on FPL yay :D yeppers! I'm lucky! | ||
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Austria18381 Posts
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Norway25712 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:23 opterown wrote: oh, hey, dear on FPL yay :D me too !! and STX as my team but light on my anti TT but my friend im doing FPL with had soulkey and Woongjin Stars haha | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
At least Light won :D I have high hopes for him | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On December 25 2012 18:20 Dodgin wrote: It's funny because at the time tasteless and artosis were freaking out saying " this is the best TvT you guys have ever seen, it's the future of TvT's " and a year and a half later here we are with most TvT's being marine/tank or cheese and ending before the supreme lategame. I think that the biggest contributor to mech never becoming the favored style was the nerf to blue flame. Prior to it, we were seeing TvT slowly move toward being exclusively mech, and then as soon as the nerf hit everyone went back to playing that god awful marine only style for a while before we saw marine/tank and mech come back into standard play. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 25 2012 20:34 sharkie wrote: Stars losing the match on ace. Is anyone surprised? :p Not at all. The draw wreaked of game 7. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18381 Posts
On December 25 2012 23:46 rj rl wrote: Kinda true, vultures was in fact a hard counter to bio whereas hellions suck against mmm. Anyways i consider the shitty tank to be the main reason for mech to suck against everything (sometimes even against zerg amoving mass roaches into sieged terran). vultures werent the hard counter, tanks were | ||
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rj rl
648 Posts
On December 26 2012 02:06 sharkie wrote: vultures werent the hard counter, tanks were well early on they rape rines so it was unnatural to open up a macro game with bio against mech, unless you got some sneaky build. But yes, tanks are bad and back then they were good, and it makes the difference, i was pointing to it myself. | ||
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Miragee
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krutopatkin
Germany2612 Posts
On December 26 2012 04:00 Miragee wrote: Vod's for subscribers only... WTF, good old days with fucking free restreams/vod's are gone. subscription is 5$ | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On December 26 2012 04:00 Miragee wrote: Vod's for subscribers only... WTF, good old days with fucking free restreams/vod's are gone. 5$ for the entire season. Its basically free. | ||
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Footler
United States560 Posts
On December 26 2012 04:00 Miragee wrote: Vod's for subscribers only... WTF, good old days with fucking free restreams/vod's are gone. You can watch them in Korean for free. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV?feature=watch And I can't believe Dear got thrown out in the ace match! My fantasy team might be in the best shape but picking up Dear has turned out to be an awesome choice thus far. I know he isn't exactly the best player but I'm still anxious to see what he can do in an individual league. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
Should have traded him for Hydra on my anti team after all. Oh well. | ||
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Miragee
8493 Posts
On December 26 2012 04:16 Megaliskuu wrote: 5$ for the entire season. Its basically free. I know how high the subscription fee is. 5$ isn't basically free. You Sir have a weird understanding of free. SC2 isn't in a state where I would invest money into it. I'd would rather pay snipealot, lol. I wouldn't even mind if the free Vod's would be 360p or something like that but for a fee they can keep their stuff for themselfs. On December 26 2012 04:34 Footler wrote: You can watch them in Korean for free. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV?feature=watch That's very nice, thank you! | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On December 26 2012 08:40 Proseat wrote: Why oh why did Light have to win... Absent for the first four matches, then comes out for his first game and takes it. Should have traded him for Hydra on my anti team after all. Oh well. Light's absence in the first four matches is even more surprising than his win. He had a 5-1 record in last season SPL for SC2 and was doing decently in a lot of preliminaries. He looked really good against Hyvaa, who isn't a slouch either. It's just surprising why he hasn't been played before this. Could be he took a break for awhile (explaining his absence from last Code A's prelims)? | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On December 26 2012 10:13 pdd wrote: Light's absence in the first four matches is even more surprising than his win. He had a 5-1 record in last season SPL for SC2 and was doing decently in a lot of preliminaries. He looked really good against Hyvaa, who isn't a slouch either. It's just surprising why he hasn't been played before this. Could be he took a break for awhile (explaining his absence from last Code A's prelims)? He was sick for a long time afaik | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On December 25 2012 22:10 TommyP wrote: me too !! and STX as my team but light on my anti TT but my friend im doing FPL with had soulkey and Woongjin Stars haha I had dear and woongjin =(. matches this week are really making it hard to predict who I want on my fantasy team next round =/. Seems like anything is possible right now! | ||
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