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On December 13 2012 21:27 Gesarjack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 21:20 Yello wrote:On December 13 2012 21:17 Gesarjack wrote:On December 13 2012 21:03 JJH777 wrote:On December 13 2012 21:02 Gesarjack wrote:On December 13 2012 20:59 Confuse wrote:On December 13 2012 20:55 Gesarjack wrote:
Okay this is probably not a smart post to write but I couldn't help myself.
Notice how there are now 8 terrans, 5 zergs and 2 protosses in code S?
Remember how any thread for a tournament in which only 2 terrans qualified EVER went?
See how this one is going?
Terrans, take notice. Terran whining occurs for a reason. Terran is the race which most closely resembles humans. Of course terran players are cheering for themselves more passionately then zerg/protoss. ; ) That, and although subjective, sick terran players are often easier to understand then other races in my view. I suppose you're probably right but it doesn't really cheer me up: you just confirmed that I'd have to put up with this for the rest of my life as a non-terran =) Also it took a whole page for someone to understand what I said, wow. Can't really blame anyone your post didn't make any sense at all. So you're willing to argue that there's no difference in the reception of balance changes and overall metagame/balance whether you're talking to a terran or a non-terran audience? It doesn't make much of a difference. Every race has a lot of idiots who whine and whine all the time no matter the state of the game. You are just thinking of Terran whine to be worse because they were the most recent balance whines. Actually I'm thinking about it cause I remember how back when they were OP the terran defenders took time to explain to me how they won everything because their players were just better at the game than mine were. I also remember how it was hard to pipe up a single word against terran dominance without getting told that it's lame to balance-whine and that I should just shut up and wait for the patch. I also remember how suddenly they were patched and instantly started whining about protoss, and suddenly balance-whining was totally fine and WAT, how was I to say that protoss wasn't really op? (btw, protoss didn't get patched, and TvP is fine now, but what do I know) And now the zerg thing until today... I don't really expect it to change but as a non-terran it's really hard to enjoy reading through the history as a whole. It revolves so much around how terran is doing. You just have to see how much **** PvZ regularly takes, let alone in this thread.
PvZ is a shitty matchup most of the time though. Not really enjoyable to watch ^.^
And Terran got nerfed a lot, Protoss got a few rather small buffs, so PvT didn't change all on itself.
You are just as biased as most people are. Just to give an example: Zerg defenders say that Zergs just became more skilled and that the Infestor is fine and that Zerg can't win if the Infestor gets nerfed. Protoss defenders were whining really hard when Khaldaryan (or however you write that) Amulet got removed. Terrans were whining when Snipe got nerfed into the ground.
As I said: we are all biased, you are biased as well, it's not as bad as you think it is.
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On December 13 2012 21:29 Dodgin wrote:
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS MVP WON
IM SO HAPPY
NESTEA AWARD!
now back to work
just fixed it for my case since I couldn't have said any better
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Completely missed today's games, dayum, symbol got taken out
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On December 13 2012 21:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 21:23 TheBB wrote:On December 13 2012 21:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
As of now Poor Mvp. + Show Spoiler +
I was thinking about serving you your own medicine.
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On December 13 2012 21:53 IndyO wrote:So, so, so many games of wanting Nestea to finally beat MVP. Hell, I even miss Ghost snipe being used against Zerg lategame. Watching Ultralisk / Broodlords explode one after another was sick.
Nestea finally managed to beat Mvp a few weeks ago at WEM in China.
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Click spoiler for Idiot Logic
+ Show Spoiler +On December 13 2012 21:27 Gesarjack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 21:20 Yello wrote:On December 13 2012 21:17 Gesarjack wrote:On December 13 2012 21:03 JJH777 wrote:On December 13 2012 21:02 Gesarjack wrote:On December 13 2012 20:59 Confuse wrote:On December 13 2012 20:55 Gesarjack wrote:
Okay this is probably not a smart post to write but I couldn't help myself.
Notice how there are now 8 terrans, 5 zergs and 2 protosses in code S?
Remember how any thread for a tournament in which only 2 terrans qualified EVER went?
See how this one is going?
Terrans, take notice. Terran whining occurs for a reason. Terran is the race which most closely resembles humans. Of course terran players are cheering for themselves more passionately then zerg/protoss. ; ) That, and although subjective, sick terran players are often easier to understand then other races in my view. I suppose you're probably right but it doesn't really cheer me up: you just confirmed that I'd have to put up with this for the rest of my life as a non-terran =) Also it took a whole page for someone to understand what I said, wow. Can't really blame anyone your post didn't make any sense at all. So you're willing to argue that there's no difference in the reception of balance changes and overall metagame/balance whether you're talking to a terran or a non-terran audience? It doesn't make much of a difference. Every race has a lot of idiots who whine and whine all the time no matter the state of the game. You are just thinking of Terran whine to be worse because they were the most recent balance whines. Actually I'm thinking about it cause I remember how back when they were OP the terran defenders took time to explain to me how they won everything because their players were just better at the game than mine were. I also remember how it was hard to pipe up a single word against terran dominance without getting told that it's lame to balance-whine and that I should just shut up and wait for the patch. I also remember how suddenly they were patched and instantly started whining about protoss, and suddenly balance-whining was totally fine and WAT, how was I to say that protoss wasn't really op? (btw, protoss didn't get patched, and TvP is fine now, but what do I know) And now the zerg thing until today... I don't really expect it to change but as a non-terran it's really hard to enjoy reading through the history as a whole. It revolves so much around how terran is doing. You just have to see how much **** PvZ regularly takes, let alone in this thread.
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These threads have gone to shit lately. The last two weren't updated, this one doesn't have live reports. Hell, the GSL wasn't even on the sidebar until 2 hours before the match started.
Not a big fan of reddit, but it seems they are the go to place for news atm.
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opterown
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On December 13 2012 22:24 decado90 wrote:
These threads have gone to shit lately. The last two weren't updated, this one doesn't have live reports. Hell, the GSL wasn't even on the sidebar until 2 hours before the match started.
Not a big fan of reddit, but it seems they are the go to place for news atm.
gee, reddit doesn't have a calender, nor does it have results or LRs.
...
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On December 13 2012 22:24 decado90 wrote:
These threads have gone to shit lately. The last two weren't updated, this one doesn't have live reports. Hell, the GSL wasn't even on the sidebar until 2 hours before the match started.
Not a big fan of reddit, but it seems they are the go to place for news atm.
Good bye 
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 13 2012 22:24 decado90 wrote:
These threads have gone to shit lately. The last two weren't updated, this one doesn't have live reports. Hell, the GSL wasn't even on the sidebar until 2 hours before the match started.
Not a big fan of reddit, but it seems they are the go to place for news atm.
No calendar, no quick links, no LR thread, no fancy OPs, no LRs, not Interview translations... srsly you deserve a wedgie
Also, fuck yeah Mvp anyone want to give me a recap?
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On December 13 2012 22:37 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 22:24 decado90 wrote:
These threads have gone to shit lately. The last two weren't updated, this one doesn't have live reports. Hell, the GSL wasn't even on the sidebar until 2 hours before the match started.
Not a big fan of reddit, but it seems they are the go to place for news atm. No calendar, no quick links, no LR thread, no fancy OPs, no LRs, not Interview translations... srsly you deserve a wedgie Also, fuck yeah Mvp anyone want to give me a recap?
+ Show Spoiler +Mvp did a successful early heavy marine attack in game 1 and coasted to victory off the damage done.
Game 2 he did a bunker rush that didn't work out too well and didn't notice Shy's third until it was too late. Pulled SCVs a couple times in attempts to end the game before his economic disadvantage was insurmountable but the first attack was barely fended off and the second one was handily defeated and Mvp was forced to gg.
Game 3 shy tried a 1 base blink stalker attack that went hilariously poorly and then tried to move into colossus tech but his army disadvantage was too great and he lost when vikings arrived.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 13 2012 22:52 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 22:37 lichter wrote:On December 13 2012 22:24 decado90 wrote:
These threads have gone to shit lately. The last two weren't updated, this one doesn't have live reports. Hell, the GSL wasn't even on the sidebar until 2 hours before the match started.
Not a big fan of reddit, but it seems they are the go to place for news atm. No calendar, no quick links, no LR thread, no fancy OPs, no LRs, not Interview translations... srsly you deserve a wedgie Also, fuck yeah Mvp anyone want to give me a recap? + Show Spoiler +Mvp did a successful early heavy marine attack in game 1 and coasted to victory off the damage done.
Game 2 he did a bunker rush that didn't work out too well and didn't notice Shy's third until it was too late. Pulled SCVs a couple times in attempts to end the game before his economic disadvantage was insurmountable but the first attack was barely fended off and the second one was handily defeated and Mvp was forced to gg.
Game 3 shy tried a 1 base blink stalker attack that went hilariously poorly and then tried to move into colossus tech but his army disadvantage was too great and he lost when vikings arrived.
Sounds ugly
+ Show Spoiler +
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I don't even know how MVP does it anymore. I watch his games and I don't feel like I'm watching the one of the best mechanical Terrans in the world, hell I don't even know who could get that title now considering how many Terrans have fallen off. A Kespa Terran maybe?
Yet he still continues to win....
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On December 13 2012 21:59 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 21:27 Gesarjack wrote:On December 13 2012 21:20 Yello wrote:On December 13 2012 21:17 Gesarjack wrote:On December 13 2012 21:03 JJH777 wrote:On December 13 2012 21:02 Gesarjack wrote:On December 13 2012 20:59 Confuse wrote:On December 13 2012 20:55 Gesarjack wrote:
Okay this is probably not a smart post to write but I couldn't help myself.
Notice how there are now 8 terrans, 5 zergs and 2 protosses in code S?
Remember how any thread for a tournament in which only 2 terrans qualified EVER went?
See how this one is going?
Terrans, take notice. Terran whining occurs for a reason. Terran is the race which most closely resembles humans. Of course terran players are cheering for themselves more passionately then zerg/protoss. ; ) That, and although subjective, sick terran players are often easier to understand then other races in my view. I suppose you're probably right but it doesn't really cheer me up: you just confirmed that I'd have to put up with this for the rest of my life as a non-terran =) Also it took a whole page for someone to understand what I said, wow. Can't really blame anyone your post didn't make any sense at all. So you're willing to argue that there's no difference in the reception of balance changes and overall metagame/balance whether you're talking to a terran or a non-terran audience? It doesn't make much of a difference. Every race has a lot of idiots who whine and whine all the time no matter the state of the game. You are just thinking of Terran whine to be worse because they were the most recent balance whines. Actually I'm thinking about it cause I remember how back when they were OP the terran defenders took time to explain to me how they won everything because their players were just better at the game than mine were. I also remember how it was hard to pipe up a single word against terran dominance without getting told that it's lame to balance-whine and that I should just shut up and wait for the patch. I also remember how suddenly they were patched and instantly started whining about protoss, and suddenly balance-whining was totally fine and WAT, how was I to say that protoss wasn't really op? (btw, protoss didn't get patched, and TvP is fine now, but what do I know) And now the zerg thing until today... I don't really expect it to change but as a non-terran it's really hard to enjoy reading through the history as a whole. It revolves so much around how terran is doing. You just have to see how much **** PvZ regularly takes, let alone in this thread. PvZ is a shitty matchup most of the time though. Not really enjoyable to watch ^.^ And Terran got nerfed a lot, Protoss got a few rather small buffs, so PvT didn't change all on itself. You are just as biased as most people are. Just to give an example: Zerg defenders say that Zergs just became more skilled and that the Infestor is fine and that Zerg can't win if the Infestor gets nerfed. Protoss defenders were whining really hard when Khaldaryan (or however you write that) Amulet got removed. Terrans were whining when Snipe got nerfed into the ground. As I said: we are all biased, you are biased as well, it's not as bad as you think it is.
Why is PvZ not enjoyable to watch?
Major argument is that it's cause it revolves around Z trying to get to lategame and P trying to prevent the Z from getting there. But that's not right, because that's also what happened in TvZ before the patch, and people weren't saying "TvZ is a shitty match-up", they were saying "TvZ became a shitty match-up". Suggesting that there was already something wrong with PvZ before zergs realized the way to never lose.
So what was that problem? It bores people. Why ?
Deathball vs deathball, too positional? So why don't you hate tanks?
Hate timing attacks? There goes much of TvP...
You can't really bring up a valid argument of WHY PvZ is shitty that doesn't imply the shittiness of other match-ups. Yet most people hate PvZ (I don't, if you couldn't tell).
I can quote a lot of people saying that TvZ is the real match-up of Starcraft, the "true" match-up, whatever. But you could go a bit further: why is it that TvT gets good press compared to the other mirrors? Long game vs short game? Not really, we already stated that long game PvZ is boring, and both other mirrors do have late game. One engagement decides the whole thing? That's not necessarily true, and it can also happen very easily in TvT.
What can I say? People just like terrans. And you're trying to show me that I'm biased like I didn't know it. Of course I'm biased. If I wasn't, I wouldn't be so annoyed by people telling me how the things I enjoy are shitty over and over again, I wouldn't be so annoyed by people saying that "the patch seems to have solved the problems of this game, now everything is fine I can enjoy SC2 again" when it's now 8-6-2 with 2 being the race I support.
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United States97276 Posts
On December 13 2012 22:24 decado90 wrote:
These threads have gone to shit lately. The last two weren't updated, this one doesn't have live reports. Hell, the GSL wasn't even on the sidebar until 2 hours before the match started.
Not a big fan of reddit, but it seems they are the go to place for news atm.
lol I LR almost every day. Sorry to inconvenience you by missing today due to final exams
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wow just watched teh Symbol vs Baby games.... BaBy's play was really awesome to watch.
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On December 13 2012 23:25 decado90 wrote:
I don't even know how MVP does it anymore. I watch his games and I don't feel like I'm watching the one of the best mechanical Terrans in the world, hell I don't even know who could get that title now considering how many Terrans have fallen off. A Kespa Terran maybe?
Yet he still continues to win....
who cares, fuck yeah Mvp
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3/3 Terrans advance and Life. Sounds good to me.
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On December 13 2012 22:24 decado90 wrote:
These threads have gone to shit lately. The last two weren't updated, this one doesn't have live reports. Hell, the GSL wasn't even on the sidebar until 2 hours before the match started.
Not a big fan of reddit, but it seems they are the go to place for news atm.
Wow, the amount of entitlement...
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On December 13 2012 23:44 Gesarjack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 21:59 Yello wrote:On December 13 2012 21:27 Gesarjack wrote:On December 13 2012 21:20 Yello wrote:On December 13 2012 21:17 Gesarjack wrote:On December 13 2012 21:03 JJH777 wrote:On December 13 2012 21:02 Gesarjack wrote:On December 13 2012 20:59 Confuse wrote:On December 13 2012 20:55 Gesarjack wrote:
Okay this is probably not a smart post to write but I couldn't help myself.
Notice how there are now 8 terrans, 5 zergs and 2 protosses in code S?
Remember how any thread for a tournament in which only 2 terrans qualified EVER went?
See how this one is going?
Terrans, take notice. Terran whining occurs for a reason. Terran is the race which most closely resembles humans. Of course terran players are cheering for themselves more passionately then zerg/protoss. ; ) That, and although subjective, sick terran players are often easier to understand then other races in my view. I suppose you're probably right but it doesn't really cheer me up: you just confirmed that I'd have to put up with this for the rest of my life as a non-terran =) Also it took a whole page for someone to understand what I said, wow. Can't really blame anyone your post didn't make any sense at all. So you're willing to argue that there's no difference in the reception of balance changes and overall metagame/balance whether you're talking to a terran or a non-terran audience? It doesn't make much of a difference. Every race has a lot of idiots who whine and whine all the time no matter the state of the game. You are just thinking of Terran whine to be worse because they were the most recent balance whines. Actually I'm thinking about it cause I remember how back when they were OP the terran defenders took time to explain to me how they won everything because their players were just better at the game than mine were. I also remember how it was hard to pipe up a single word against terran dominance without getting told that it's lame to balance-whine and that I should just shut up and wait for the patch. I also remember how suddenly they were patched and instantly started whining about protoss, and suddenly balance-whining was totally fine and WAT, how was I to say that protoss wasn't really op? (btw, protoss didn't get patched, and TvP is fine now, but what do I know) And now the zerg thing until today... I don't really expect it to change but as a non-terran it's really hard to enjoy reading through the history as a whole. It revolves so much around how terran is doing. You just have to see how much **** PvZ regularly takes, let alone in this thread. PvZ is a shitty matchup most of the time though. Not really enjoyable to watch ^.^ And Terran got nerfed a lot, Protoss got a few rather small buffs, so PvT didn't change all on itself. You are just as biased as most people are. Just to give an example: Zerg defenders say that Zergs just became more skilled and that the Infestor is fine and that Zerg can't win if the Infestor gets nerfed. Protoss defenders were whining really hard when Khaldaryan (or however you write that) Amulet got removed. Terrans were whining when Snipe got nerfed into the ground. As I said: we are all biased, you are biased as well, it's not as bad as you think it is. Why is PvZ not enjoyable to watch? Major argument is that it's cause it revolves around Z trying to get to lategame and P trying to prevent the Z from getting there. But that's not right, because that's also what happened in TvZ before the patch, and people weren't saying "TvZ is a shitty match-up", they were saying "TvZ became a shitty match-up". Suggesting that there was already something wrong with PvZ before zergs realized the way to never lose. So what was that problem? It bores people. Why ? Deathball vs deathball, too positional? So why don't you hate tanks? Hate timing attacks? There goes much of TvP... You can't really bring up a valid argument of WHY PvZ is shitty that doesn't imply the shittiness of other match-ups. Yet most people hate PvZ (I don't, if you couldn't tell). I can quote a lot of people saying that TvZ is the real match-up of Starcraft, the "true" match-up, whatever. But you could go a bit further: why is it that TvT gets good press compared to the other mirrors? Long game vs short game? Not really, we already stated that long game PvZ is boring, and both other mirrors do have late game. One engagement decides the whole thing? That's not necessarily true, and it can also happen very easily in TvT. What can I say? People just like terrans. And you're trying to show me that I'm biased like I didn't know it. Of course I'm biased. If I wasn't, I wouldn't be so annoyed by people telling me how the things I enjoy are shitty over and over again, I wouldn't be so annoyed by people saying that "the patch seems to have solved the problems of this game, now everything is fine I can enjoy SC2 again" when it's now 8-6-2 with 2 being the race I support.
Are you being serious right now, or is this more idiot logic?
Pray tell, where was all this random shit spewing when Creator won TSL 4 or WCS SK? Or maybe when Parting won BWC and WCG 2012? Or how about when Rain won both WCS Asia and OSL? Hmm? Oh.. not to mention Hero winning both Dreamhack Winter and NASL 4...
Yea, sounds pretty much like idiot protoss fanboyism to me... No offense to other protosses out there, just this one guy giving your race a bad image.
Oh, and I also forgot to mention that all the code S slots for next year's Season 1 hasn't even been decided yet and already you're bitching?
Did you even see the player pool for the Blizzard cup this year? And still you talk shit about people favoring Terran?
Hmm, maybe it's because Terran has been the most under represented race in tournaments for at least the last 6 months... It's quite the welcome pace from watching only ZvZ or PvZ (or PvP) in more than a Bo3 series.
And still you bitch and moan... Disgraceful...
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