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DigitalisDestructi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States488 Posts
December 02 2012 20:14 GMT
#1361
On December 03 2012 05:12 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:11 Dodgin wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:10 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:09 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:08 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:59 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:58 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:57 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:57 Noocta wrote:
I would love so much for Polt to win the whole thing.. but let's face it.. no Terran can beat Leenock on this planet right now.


Mvp can. If he isn't in worstwrist mode.


Not at all. MVP's bio play stands no chance against zerg, and his mech play isn't that great either


Mvp, mech, and not great in the same sentence. You don't have my respect.


Life vs MVP? The only games MVP won were when he killed 20+ drones at the 8 min mark


I seriously hope you are trolling.


link me to the games where MVP straight up outplays Life with mech


uh, killing workers then executing a pre hive timing push is how you are supposed to play that build, and he won 3 times with it.


Yeah Life refusing to build a roach warren and defending double fact blue flame helion with pure lings is definitely part of every mecher's game plan

Please tell us who's the best TvZ mech player?
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hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
December 02 2012 20:14 GMT
#1362
On December 03 2012 05:13 Darkhoarse wrote:
For all the Bomber haters right now, saying he "disappointed" this tournament, here is a list of some notable players that he finished ahead of.
Taeja, Creator*, HerO, MC, Symbol*, Squirtle
GSL Semifinalists Ryung and INnoVation.
GSL Finalist TSL Hyun.
2012 GSL Champions DRG*, Seed, Life, and Sniper.
That's an extremely impressive list of names to be grouped with, let alone placed ahead of. Bomber went boss mode this weekend, and he deserves nothing but praise for his efforts.
*Bomber beat this player personally


disappointed in his play in the end and that he should have finished at least 3rd instead of 4th
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 02 2012 20:14 GMT
#1363
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fusilero wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:12 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
Leenock beats Violet --> Polt beats Violet --> Polt beats Leenock.--> all is well with the world


I have 0 confidence in Polt beating Leenock.

Which makes me sad.

Who would you have confidence in beating leenock, except for slayer of fun sniper.


...Uh...maybe Hyun would be 50/50. No current Terran. No current Toss.



I think Bogus could have done it.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 02 2012 20:14 GMT
#1364
On December 03 2012 05:13 Darkhoarse wrote:
For all the Bomber haters right now, saying he "disappointed" this tournament, here is a list of some notable players that he finished ahead of.
Taeja, Creator*, HerO, MC, Symbol*, Squirtle
GSL Semifinalists Ryung and INnoVation.
GSL Finalist TSL Hyun.
2012 GSL Champions DRG*, Seed, Life, and Sniper.
That's an extremely impressive list of names to be grouped with, let alone placed ahead of. Bomber went boss mode this weekend, and he deserves nothing but praise for his efforts.
*Bomber beat this player personally

What the hell, Bomber didn't disappoint this tournament, he disappointed in the last game of the last series. That's all.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 02 2012 20:14 GMT
#1365
On December 03 2012 05:14 DigitalisDestructi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:12 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:11 Dodgin wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:10 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:09 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:08 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:59 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:58 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:57 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:57 Noocta wrote:
I would love so much for Polt to win the whole thing.. but let's face it.. no Terran can beat Leenock on this planet right now.


Mvp can. If he isn't in worstwrist mode.


Not at all. MVP's bio play stands no chance against zerg, and his mech play isn't that great either


Mvp, mech, and not great in the same sentence. You don't have my respect.


Life vs MVP? The only games MVP won were when he killed 20+ drones at the 8 min mark


I seriously hope you are trolling.


link me to the games where MVP straight up outplays Life with mech


uh, killing workers then executing a pre hive timing push is how you are supposed to play that build, and he won 3 times with it.


Yeah Life refusing to build a roach warren and defending double fact blue flame helion with pure lings is definitely part of every mecher's game plan

Please tell us who's the best TvZ mech player?

Goody!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 02 2012 20:15 GMT
#1366
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fusilero wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:12 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
Leenock beats Violet --> Polt beats Violet --> Polt beats Leenock.--> all is well with the world


I have 0 confidence in Polt beating Leenock.

Which makes me sad.

Who would you have confidence in beating leenock, except for slayer of fun sniper.


...Uh...maybe Hyun would be 50/50. No current Terran. No current Toss.


I dont like HyuN's ZvZ. he doesnt build enough infestors
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WerderBremen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 20:15:31
December 02 2012 20:15 GMT
#1367
Damn that leenock record samplesize, over 500 high level tournament games wtf
"Thats the moment you send the kids outta the room - when you get contained by MarineKing." Tasteless
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 20:15:39
December 02 2012 20:15 GMT
#1368
On December 03 2012 05:14 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fusilero wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:12 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
Leenock beats Violet --> Polt beats Violet --> Polt beats Leenock.--> all is well with the world


I have 0 confidence in Polt beating Leenock.

Which makes me sad.

Who would you have confidence in beating leenock, except for slayer of fun sniper.


...Uh...maybe Hyun would be 50/50. No current Terran. No current Toss.



I think Bogus could have done it.


Bogus got his ass handed by leenock the last time at group stage tho ;p
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 02 2012 20:15 GMT
#1369
On December 03 2012 05:12 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
Leenock beats Violet --> Polt beats Violet --> Polt beats Leenock.--> all is well with the world


Violet beats leenock -> leenock beats polt -> leenock beats violet

This way we get the most leenock and get to watch him play polt!

I actually wouldn't mind that.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 02 2012 20:15 GMT
#1370
On December 03 2012 05:15 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:14 stuchiu wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fusilero wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:12 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
Leenock beats Violet --> Polt beats Violet --> Polt beats Leenock.--> all is well with the world


I have 0 confidence in Polt beating Leenock.

Which makes me sad.

Who would you have confidence in beating leenock, except for slayer of fun sniper.


...Uh...maybe Hyun would be 50/50. No current Terran. No current Toss.



I think Bogus could have done it.


Bogus got his ass handed by leenock the last time tho ;p

Soulkey?
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
December 02 2012 20:15 GMT
#1371
My heart wants Polt to win it all, but my head says, he can't beat Leenock, even if he defeats Violet, Leenock is just on a entirely different level in regards to ZvT, he knows how to mix in the perfect brew of cheese+ solid macro, and he knows how to mind game his opponent into either letting his guard down or playing too defensive.

I'm also a huge Polt fan but, well Leenock looks unstoppable now regarding ZvT. Still, hope dies last.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
December 02 2012 20:16 GMT
#1372
On December 03 2012 05:13 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:12 Dodgin wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:12 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:11 Dodgin wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:10 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:09 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:08 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:59 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:58 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:57 Wintex wrote:
[quote]

Mvp can. If he isn't in worstwrist mode.


Not at all. MVP's bio play stands no chance against zerg, and his mech play isn't that great either


Mvp, mech, and not great in the same sentence. You don't have my respect.


Life vs MVP? The only games MVP won were when he killed 20+ drones at the 8 min mark


I seriously hope you are trolling.


link me to the games where MVP straight up outplays Life with mech


uh, killing workers then executing a pre hive timing push is how you are supposed to play that build, and he won 3 times with it.


Yeah Life refusing to build a roach warren and defending double fact blue flame helion with pure lings is definitely part of every mecher's game plan


killing workers to slow their economy so your 3 base push kills them before BL's is part of the plan, that is exactly the plan in fact.


Sure, killing half of the zerg's worker count because they forgot to build a roach warren every game is definitely part of every game plan

I really don't think Life, the greatest zerg at the time really forgot to build a roach warren. I think he did it because he didn't feel like he needed to.
The Bomber boy
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
December 02 2012 20:16 GMT
#1373
On December 03 2012 05:12 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:12 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:10 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:09 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:08 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:59 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:58 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:57 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:57 Noocta wrote:
I would love so much for Polt to win the whole thing.. but let's face it.. no Terran can beat Leenock on this planet right now.


Mvp can. If he isn't in worstwrist mode.


Not at all. MVP's bio play stands no chance against zerg, and his mech play isn't that great either


Mvp, mech, and not great in the same sentence. You don't have my respect.


Life vs MVP? The only games MVP won were when he killed 20+ drones at the 8 min mark


I seriously hope you are trolling.


link me to the games where MVP straight up outplays Life with mech


And killing 20+ drones at the 8 min mark isn't outplaying ?
If anything one should wonder why terran needs to outplay so hard in the early game to have a chance of winning the game....


no it's called Life's baffling refusal to build a roach warren and trying to hold with pure lings


Lol, ok. You do realize that (despite balance) winning / losing the game is always influenced by your opponent making a mistake.

Your argument is: yes Mvp won but that is only because Life made a mistake.

In case you don't realize this is what always happens. One player must make (more) mistakes for other to win.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
December 02 2012 20:16 GMT
#1374
On December 03 2012 05:10 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:09 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:08 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:59 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:58 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:57 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:57 Noocta wrote:
I would love so much for Polt to win the whole thing.. but let's face it.. no Terran can beat Leenock on this planet right now.


Mvp can. If he isn't in worstwrist mode.


Not at all. MVP's bio play stands no chance against zerg, and his mech play isn't that great either


Mvp, mech, and not great in the same sentence. You don't have my respect.


Life vs MVP? The only games MVP won were when he killed 20+ drones at the 8 min mark


I seriously hope you are trolling.


link me to the games where MVP straight up outplays Life with mech

All the games he won.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
December 02 2012 20:16 GMT
#1375
On December 03 2012 05:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:15 Godwrath wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:14 stuchiu wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fusilero wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:12 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
Leenock beats Violet --> Polt beats Violet --> Polt beats Leenock.--> all is well with the world


I have 0 confidence in Polt beating Leenock.

Which makes me sad.

Who would you have confidence in beating leenock, except for slayer of fun sniper.


...Uh...maybe Hyun would be 50/50. No current Terran. No current Toss.



I think Bogus could have done it.


Bogus got his ass handed by leenock the last time tho ;p

Soulkey?


That's another secret villain, probably sniper's sith master, so i totally see that happening.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 02 2012 20:16 GMT
#1376
On December 03 2012 05:15 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:14 stuchiu wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:13 Fusilero wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:12 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:11 Topdoller wrote:
Leenock beats Violet --> Polt beats Violet --> Polt beats Leenock.--> all is well with the world


I have 0 confidence in Polt beating Leenock.

Which makes me sad.

Who would you have confidence in beating leenock, except for slayer of fun sniper.


...Uh...maybe Hyun would be 50/50. No current Terran. No current Toss.



I think Bogus could have done it.


Bogus got his ass handed by leenock the last time at group stage tho ;p


Well I wouldn't favor Bogus, maybe 10-20%.
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
December 02 2012 20:16 GMT
#1377
On December 03 2012 05:16 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:13 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:12 Dodgin wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:12 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:11 Dodgin wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:10 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:09 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:08 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:59 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:58 MasterKang wrote:
[quote]

Not at all. MVP's bio play stands no chance against zerg, and his mech play isn't that great either


Mvp, mech, and not great in the same sentence. You don't have my respect.


Life vs MVP? The only games MVP won were when he killed 20+ drones at the 8 min mark


I seriously hope you are trolling.


link me to the games where MVP straight up outplays Life with mech


uh, killing workers then executing a pre hive timing push is how you are supposed to play that build, and he won 3 times with it.


Yeah Life refusing to build a roach warren and defending double fact blue flame helion with pure lings is definitely part of every mecher's game plan


killing workers to slow their economy so your 3 base push kills them before BL's is part of the plan, that is exactly the plan in fact.


Sure, killing half of the zerg's worker count because they forgot to build a roach warren every game is definitely part of every game plan

I really don't think Life, the greatest zerg at the time really forgot to build a roach warren. I think he did it because he didn't feel like he needed to.


Watch game 3+4 of GSL Final and tell me that Life intended for that to happen
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
December 02 2012 20:16 GMT
#1378
Leenock you boss :D
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
December 02 2012 20:17 GMT
#1379
On December 03 2012 05:14 DigitalisDestructi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 05:12 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:11 Dodgin wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:10 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:09 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 03 2012 05:08 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:59 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:58 MasterKang wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:57 Wintex wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:57 Noocta wrote:
I would love so much for Polt to win the whole thing.. but let's face it.. no Terran can beat Leenock on this planet right now.


Mvp can. If he isn't in worstwrist mode.


Not at all. MVP's bio play stands no chance against zerg, and his mech play isn't that great either


Mvp, mech, and not great in the same sentence. You don't have my respect.


Life vs MVP? The only games MVP won were when he killed 20+ drones at the 8 min mark


I seriously hope you are trolling.


link me to the games where MVP straight up outplays Life with mech


uh, killing workers then executing a pre hive timing push is how you are supposed to play that build, and he won 3 times with it.


Yeah Life refusing to build a roach warren and defending double fact blue flame helion with pure lings is definitely part of every mecher's game plan

Please tell us who's the best TvZ mech player?

Probably Ryung. Mvp is up there with him though. Not tons of terrans use mech enough to judge though.
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
December 02 2012 20:17 GMT
#1380
Leenock showing great micro
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