On December 01 2012 14:53 figq wrote:
In MOBAs you guys are gonna get a whole lot of disabling area stuns.
In MOBAs you guys are gonna get a whole lot of disabling area stuns.
This is true. You don't like fungal? MOBAs will be like water torture.
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:53 figq wrote: In MOBAs you guys are gonna get a whole lot of disabling area stuns. This is true. You don't like fungal? MOBAs will be like water torture. | ||
SeAK
Canada69 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:50 Rhayader wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:44 negativedge wrote: It was classless, that's all that needs to be said. If Ryung wants to let the world know that he thinks the game is unbalanced, that's fine, but there are more appropriate and constructive ways of doing it. Ever heard of John McEnroe? One of the greatest and most famous players of all time, notorious for pulling "bad manner" stunts during his games, much worse than the fluff Ryung said. Guess what, people loved him. Instantly became a Ryung fan after that | ||
Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23722 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:56 Emzeeshady wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:40 TiTanIum_ wrote: On December 01 2012 14:36 doffe wrote: whats with TL nowadays.. everyone playing terran or what? During the years ive been on this site never has balance whine been this extreme as the late couple of months.... go play zerg if you think its that easy to get good.. Im not saying the game is obviously fine but its fucking sad to see "zerg imba" when a zerg wins and more or less people saying that the Terran always played better.. this is obviously not the case. The zerg skillset is just not as visually obvious as the terrans is. you dont do fancy micro as zerg but the base mechanichs must be ridicolously good to get to that level. its not a-move... gah, im so tired of all the whiners.. you're the guys that truly are ruining e-sports. I play random. My w/l with the 3 races are: Terran: 33% Protoss: 55% Zerg: 80% wow... Amazing decisive proof.. Since our win rates mean stuff my ZvZ is 70% right now while I barely ever beat Protoss... Haha, well played. I sadly can't play Zerg to go and raceswitch and then claim they're easier because my hotkey layout would have to be completely re-worked ![]() | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:56 Emzeeshady wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:54 SeAK wrote: On December 01 2012 14:50 Rhayader wrote: On December 01 2012 14:44 negativedge wrote: It was classless, that's all that needs to be said. If Ryung wants to let the world know that he thinks the game is unbalanced, that's fine, but there are more appropriate and constructive ways of doing it. Ever heard of John McEnroe? One of the greatest and most famous players of all time, notorious for pulling "bad manner" stunts during his games, much worse than the fluff Ryung said. Guess what, people loved him. Instantly became a Ryung fan after that what did he say? http://i.imgur.com/lw2yN.jpg | ||
mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:56 Emzeeshady wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:54 SeAK wrote: On December 01 2012 14:50 Rhayader wrote: On December 01 2012 14:44 negativedge wrote: It was classless, that's all that needs to be said. If Ryung wants to let the world know that he thinks the game is unbalanced, that's fine, but there are more appropriate and constructive ways of doing it. Ever heard of John McEnroe? One of the greatest and most famous players of all time, notorious for pulling "bad manner" stunts during his games, much worse than the fluff Ryung said. Guess what, people loved him. Instantly became a Ryung fan after that what did he say? What everyone except zergs think. | ||
jnsjr
United States461 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:56 Emzeeshady wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:54 SeAK wrote: On December 01 2012 14:50 Rhayader wrote: On December 01 2012 14:44 negativedge wrote: It was classless, that's all that needs to be said. If Ryung wants to let the world know that he thinks the game is unbalanced, that's fine, but there are more appropriate and constructive ways of doing it. Ever heard of John McEnroe? One of the greatest and most famous players of all time, notorious for pulling "bad manner" stunts during his games, much worse than the fluff Ryung said. Guess what, people loved him. Instantly became a Ryung fan after that what did he say? Before he gg'd out he said IMBA in caps a dozen times (in one message) then typed GG and left. | ||
aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:50 jnsjr wrote: It's amazing how fast the community changes. When foreigners express problems with the game or "balance whine" they are maligned and hated by the community. They are called complainers/whiners and their opinions are disregarded. I remember Grubby gave a speech on why he doesn't talk about balance and people lauded him for it. When Koreans do the same thing, its cool? It seems the only thing that really matters in regards to balance/manners/BM is if the person says something you like. Then it's all graaaavy baby. They are generally maligned with comments of, "Maybe you should try being a better player!" Who can honestly say that about Ryung, a definitively top Code S Terran? Ryung has proved before that he can compete with the best and beat the best, as have many other top Koreans. If they complain about balance, whether in interview or with rage (like tonight), it's much harder to criticize than when Avilo or Idra does it. | ||
NGrNecris
New Zealand855 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:54 BoxingKangaroo wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:53 figq wrote: In MOBAs you guys are gonna get a whole lot of disabling area stuns. This is true. You don't like fungal? MOBAs will be like water torture. err you're comparing mechanics between 2 types of genres? | ||
Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:52 StarStruck wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:50 Al Bundy wrote: On December 01 2012 14:48 Riskr wrote: who would have guessed ZvZ.... Well ZvZ is a pretty interesting mirror, and both these players have good ZvZ, so if anything, it should be very high level. ZvZ is much more fun now in SC2 for spectators. ZvZ in BW wouldn't be half as interesting to them, lol. Man I miss BW ZvZ... So unique and beautiful, almost like an artistic painting. It's not the kind of things one can explain with words ![]() | ||
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Australia54784 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:58 NGrNecris wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:54 BoxingKangaroo wrote: On December 01 2012 14:53 figq wrote: In MOBAs you guys are gonna get a whole lot of disabling area stuns. This is true. You don't like fungal? MOBAs will be like water torture. err you're comparing mechanics between 2 types of genres? i think it's similarly frustrating tbh to be stunlocked down and ganked all game haha | ||
Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:57 Wombat_NI wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:56 Emzeeshady wrote: On December 01 2012 14:40 TiTanIum_ wrote: On December 01 2012 14:36 doffe wrote: whats with TL nowadays.. everyone playing terran or what? During the years ive been on this site never has balance whine been this extreme as the late couple of months.... go play zerg if you think its that easy to get good.. Im not saying the game is obviously fine but its fucking sad to see "zerg imba" when a zerg wins and more or less people saying that the Terran always played better.. this is obviously not the case. The zerg skillset is just not as visually obvious as the terrans is. you dont do fancy micro as zerg but the base mechanichs must be ridicolously good to get to that level. its not a-move... gah, im so tired of all the whiners.. you're the guys that truly are ruining e-sports. I play random. My w/l with the 3 races are: Terran: 33% Protoss: 55% Zerg: 80% wow... Amazing decisive proof.. Since our win rates mean stuff my ZvZ is 70% right now while I barely ever beat Protoss... Haha, well played. I sadly can't play Zerg to go and raceswitch and then claim they're easier because my hotkey layout would have to be completely re-worked ![]() Be like me! Three hotkey setups :D Trolling in bronze all day every day | ||
forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:53 vesicular wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:41 Weirdkid wrote: On December 01 2012 14:40 dangerjoe wrote: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/64582 9) There should be no communication between the players other than ‘GG’, ‘gg’, ‘ㅎㅎ’,'ㅈㅈ' and etc to surrender the game. Hope nothing will come of this though. I like Ryung ![]() Technically, IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA isn't Ryung communicating with Sniper. So no problem. ![]() It's a slippery slope. He should probably be punished, or at least his team should demand him offer an apology. If any apologies are to be issued, it should be Blizzard offering one to the community and all pro players for the mess they've created and are repeatedly refusing to address. Even without considering balance, ZvX is horrifyingly dull for a spectator. | ||
Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:54 tuho12345 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:51 forsooth wrote: On December 01 2012 14:48 Kyhol wrote: Sigh. I hope that one day Starcraft 2 entertains me again. The first time I've ever rathered watching LOL than SC2. Fungal me this, fungal me that. Fuck it. I've never played a moba game before, but I'm considering giving it a shot at this point. I just can't believe how bad SC2 has become. May be we can go back and watch good old GSL games. At least me watching MMA vs MVP vs DRG were so much more fun and epic than now. I agree. Watching guys like MMA, MVP, DRG, Nestea, MC duke it out throughout 2011 was pretty awesome and epic. Sure we had those days of GomTvT, and the terror of the 1-1-1, but in the end, I felt that games back then were pretty interesting and fun. Nowadays, I just feel passion-drained about SC2. | ||
GattAttack
Canada202 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:58 NGrNecris wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:54 BoxingKangaroo wrote: On December 01 2012 14:53 figq wrote: In MOBAs you guys are gonna get a whole lot of disabling area stuns. This is true. You don't like fungal? MOBAs will be like water torture. err you're comparing mechanics between 2 types of genres? In response to people comparing gameplay in 2 types of genres in the first place, threatening to move to LoL, etc. I think perhaps Terran could get a major disabling ability too, so it's not just force fields and fungals that people complain about. MOBAs are full of disabling abilities, because it's actually fun to use them. | ||
synapse
China13814 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:58 Al Bundy wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:52 StarStruck wrote: On December 01 2012 14:50 Al Bundy wrote: On December 01 2012 14:48 Riskr wrote: who would have guessed ZvZ.... Well ZvZ is a pretty interesting mirror, and both these players have good ZvZ, so if anything, it should be very high level. ZvZ is much more fun now in SC2 for spectators. ZvZ in BW wouldn't be half as interesting to them, lol. Man I miss BW ZvZ... So unique and beautiful, almost like an artistic painting. It's not the kind of things one can explain with words ![]() Muta micro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roach/Infestor fights | ||
StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 01 2012 14:58 Al Bundy wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 14:52 StarStruck wrote: On December 01 2012 14:50 Al Bundy wrote: On December 01 2012 14:48 Riskr wrote: who would have guessed ZvZ.... Well ZvZ is a pretty interesting mirror, and both these players have good ZvZ, so if anything, it should be very high level. ZvZ is much more fun now in SC2 for spectators. ZvZ in BW wouldn't be half as interesting to them, lol. Man I miss BW ZvZ... So unique and beautiful, almost like an artistic painting. It's not the kind of things one can explain with words ![]() So true. :> I still have a place in my heart for it, but showing any guy unfamiliar with it and they'd probably cringe because every little thing counts. ![]() | ||
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