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[Code S] Semi-Finals 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 108

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Zebb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States834 Posts
December 01 2012 04:25 GMT
#2141
On December 01 2012 13:23 Nausea wrote:
Mike Morhaeim on phone with DB: "Not looking good, we might have to kick David Kim."
DB response "Right, right, right"


MM: "Did you see those fungals?!"
DB: "I know! They were beautiful, RIGHT!?"
DazZle.
Profile Joined February 2011
United States56 Posts
December 01 2012 04:25 GMT
#2142
On December 01 2012 13:17 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:15 DazZle. wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:10 StarStruck wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:07 DazZle. wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:06 -TesteR- wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:04 DazZle. wrote:
Without Infestors how is zerg supposed to win


Every other unit is bad, zerg would auto lose without infestors. It's impossible for them.


Show me a game where Zerg can win without infestors


Several players have shown that they can.

Including Mr. Leenock.


I was being sarcastic. The point is for a while now Zerg's have been saying they cannot win games without infestors. Clearly this is not the case, zerg has alot of options to both harass, attack and defend that DO NOT include infestors. It would be nice to see a signifigant nerf to infestors to allow terrans to utilize builds that do not have to consider a heavy inclusion of infestors in the late game (5+).


They've got no viable LATE GAME without Infestors.


First, I'm not saying remove the infestor. It has to be nerfed because the current state of the game makes it impossible to beat blord infestor without the zerg opponent critically misplaying. Infestors need to recieve a signifigant nerf to force zerg to apply some mid game pressure of their easily obtainable third bases.

An infestor nerf will lead to a more interesting mid game from the zerg player which in turn will lead into a more interesting game for the spectators. At the moment there are 3 type of ZvT's

1. 11 /11 rax
2. Terran tries to macro (extremely greedy play) that is very vulnerable to lair timings.
3. Hive turtling massing infestors, thwarting any mid game timing from the Terran.


All of these scenarios are stagnant and lead to bad games. Nerfing the infestor will shake up the meta and allow for more micro-able engagements throughout the game. The old muta ling glory days of ZvT if you will.



Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
December 01 2012 04:25 GMT
#2143
On December 01 2012 13:22 polishedturd wrote:
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On December 01 2012 13:22 Mysticesper wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:21 Hopelessnoob wrote:
No ZvZ please.....
i hate all mirrors in the finals.


TvT is the only mirror worth watching.


tvt is boring


tvt is the only mu worth watching >_>
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
Gesarjack
Profile Joined June 2012
Switzerland117 Posts
December 01 2012 04:25 GMT
#2144
Hey at least we won't have to change mindset between the IPL finals and the GSL finals.
You've got to have trolls under bridges. Otherwise, what's it all about?
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 01 2012 04:25 GMT
#2145
On December 01 2012 13:22 Daogin wrote:
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On December 01 2012 13:20 opterown wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:19 Kitaen wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:17 Laryleprakon wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:16 opterown wrote:
if mkp can beat hyun and sniper tvz, dno what these terrans are doing wrong... :p


I heard a rumor that MKP didn't win WCG this weekend??


mkp can't even beat lowely (no offense at lowely though)

lowely obviously better zerg than hyun and sniper

Lowely OP

well

+ Show Spoiler [WCG Semis] +
he just lost 1-2 to Adelscott >.<
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
December 01 2012 04:25 GMT
#2146
not whining. Ryung playing horribly. As a progamer he should know marine hellion just doesnt work anymore, as straight up 3 base baneling busts will rape it either way, and im not sure what happened with that 2rax
Stop procrastinating
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 01 2012 04:26 GMT
#2147
On December 01 2012 13:24 AgentW wrote:
Finish it out? I got up for five minutes. What the hell happened?

2-0 so far, sniper.
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 01 2012 04:26 GMT
#2148
GSL S5 2012 Code S Semifinals
Ryung vs Sniper
Game 3
0-2
Map: Entombed Valley

0:00
Ryung spawns in the bottom left
Sniper spawns in the top left
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
December 01 2012 04:26 GMT
#2149
NOOOOOO not another ZvZ finals
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
December 01 2012 04:26 GMT
#2150
On December 01 2012 13:23 Nausea wrote:
Mike Morhaeim on phone with DB: "Not looking good, we might have to kick David Kim."
DB response "Right, right, right"


People should tell Mike that the reason he is still in Bronze is not because he sucks that much but terran is UP.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
December 01 2012 04:26 GMT
#2151
On December 01 2012 13:24 TiTanIum_ wrote:
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On December 01 2012 13:22 JacobShock wrote:
I don't watch GSL on a regular basis anymore. Can someone explain to me the Sniper hate?

So far I've gathered that he made some girl cry, but thats all I know. And that barely tells me anything lol.


HE KILLED HAPPINES! AND A COLOR! His presence makes the world grey.


thx buddy.
"Right on" - Morrow
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
December 01 2012 04:26 GMT
#2152
On December 01 2012 13:23 Nausea wrote:
Mike Morhaeim on phone with DB: "Not looking good, we might have to kick David Kim."
DB response "Right, right, right"


David Kim is the least problem at Blizzard and NO I don't mean Dustin Browder, he is also pretty good. They just don't want to change the Game anymore since HotS Beta started. That would be OK if the Game was a little unbalanced, but its not getting better. In like 3 month all TOP8 of tourneys are ZvZ only, if Zerg gets even more comfortable in the Metagame.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
December 01 2012 04:26 GMT
#2153
SUDDENLY IM MOTHER FUCKING MVP WALKS INTO THE BOOTH AND HOOKS HIS GEAR UP

HE'S RECOVERED FROM HIS INJURIES, HE'S ANGRY, AND HE'S READY TO DO JUSTICE FOR TERRANS EVERYWHERE

AND SUDDENLY THE GREATEST BUILDS, STRATEGIES, MACRO, MICRO, AND MANNER MULES THAT THE UNIVERSE HAS EVER SEEN WERE UNLEASHED.

THE KING RETURNS TO PROTECT AND GUIDE HIS PEOPLE, AND ALL WAS RIGHT IN THE KOPRULU SECTOR





.....a man can dream
KT FlaSh FOREVER
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 01 2012 04:27 GMT
#2154
On December 01 2012 13:25 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:22 Daogin wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:20 opterown wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:19 Kitaen wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:17 Laryleprakon wrote:
On December 01 2012 13:16 opterown wrote:
if mkp can beat hyun and sniper tvz, dno what these terrans are doing wrong... :p


I heard a rumor that MKP didn't win WCG this weekend??


mkp can't even beat lowely (no offense at lowely though)

lowely obviously better zerg than hyun and sniper

Lowely OP

well

+ Show Spoiler [WCG Semis] +
he just lost 1-2 to Adelscott >.<

adelscott is the new bonjwa, we can see him rip up GSL tour
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
December 01 2012 04:27 GMT
#2155
I'm sorry Ryung, but now for sure Boxer will never love you best.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 01 2012 04:27 GMT
#2156
LOL is bad and you should feel bad. hahaha
#TheOneTrueDong
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
December 01 2012 04:27 GMT
#2157
On December 01 2012 13:26 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 13:24 AgentW wrote:
Finish it out? I got up for five minutes. What the hell happened?

2-0 so far, sniper.


I saw game one. Missed game two, but I surmised 11/11 from comments.

lol at the two Sniper fans in attendance.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Torra
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway469 Posts
December 01 2012 04:27 GMT
#2158
2 rax or die tryin'.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 01 2012 04:27 GMT
#2159
I have a feeling those guys chanting sniper got lost from the shootmania section of ipl5 and are drunk
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
SuperYo1000
Profile Joined July 2008
United States880 Posts
December 01 2012 04:27 GMT
#2160
On December 01 2012 13:16 DMXD wrote:
zvz is fun matchup..seeing two zergs throwing infestors at each other is a sight to behold. XD


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