• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:26
CET 18:26
KST 02:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced6[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Which season is the best in ASL? A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BW General Discussion soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3139 users

[Code S] RO16 Group D 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 39

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 95 Next
Tasteless dislocated his ribs and is in the hospital.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 15 2012 10:31 GMT
#761
On November 15 2012 19:28 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 19:28 opterown wrote:
it's almost impossible really to say conclusively one player > other


Life > J


Well, Life went 0-2 in his last series and J went 2-1 (vs Happy in EG MCSL). So maybe J is better...
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 10:31:54
November 15 2012 10:31 GMT
#762
On November 15 2012 19:30 Pwnzer wrote:
I wonder what enemy overlords that are sitting right next to each other one the map talk about...

Comparing benefits and hours.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 15 2012 10:31 GMT
#763
On November 15 2012 19:28 opterown wrote:
it's almost impossible really to say conclusively one player > other


I don't know about that. I know, for example, that MKP >>>> me.

You could make other arguments using certain foreign pros, but I don't want to say negative things about them.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 15 2012 10:31 GMT
#764
On November 15 2012 19:31 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 19:28 Fionn wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:28 opterown wrote:
it's almost impossible really to say conclusively one player > other


Life > J


Well, Life went 0-2 in his last series and J went 2-1 (vs Happy in EG MCSL). So maybe J is better...

Obviously Life = Jx195%
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 15 2012 10:32 GMT
#765
On November 15 2012 19:31 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 19:28 opterown wrote:
it's almost impossible really to say conclusively one player > other


I don't know about that. I know, for example, that MKP >>>> me.

You could make other arguments using certain foreign pros, but I don't want to say negative things about them.

haha, i meant near the top ofc :p

http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players

this is sort of like a combined TLPD, still not a good indication but better than TLPD Elo imo
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 15 2012 10:33 GMT
#766
On November 15 2012 19:31 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 19:25 Dodgin wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:25 MCDayC wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:24 Dodgin wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:23 opterown wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:22 Dodgin wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:17 Fionn wrote:
Fucking, GSL.

The narrative is LIFE AND LEENOCK ARE THE TWO BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD. STOP MESSING UP YOUR STORY.

We're going to be left with a Ryung, Sniper, Hyun, and Soulkey semifinal, aren't we?

Both Code S tournaments in November have been weird.


Leenock better than Rain?

wat

wat, 4-2


beating him in head to head does not make him a better player

also, he's zerg, no offense to leenock he's the least patchzergy zerg of all but he's still zerg

LOL
Zerg instantly makes you a worse player?


I don't think you understand

I'm saying head to head is not that meaningful because ZvP is currently stupid
ZvP has been stupid for 3 years, wtf is your point?


the point is they could split games with rain winning with two base all ins and leenock winning in the late game and one of them could win more than the other but it wouldn't be proof of anything.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
November 15 2012 10:33 GMT
#767
On November 15 2012 19:30 Pwnzer wrote:
I wonder what enemy overlords that are sitting right next to each other one the map talk about...


"William Wallace killed fifty men. Fifty."
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
November 15 2012 10:33 GMT
#768
Every cast should just be double negatives.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 10:34:10
November 15 2012 10:33 GMT
#769
infestor battles are so stupid in ZvZ...

who can throw more eggs lol
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
November 15 2012 10:33 GMT
#770
Damn this game is boring, most LR talking about other stuff should have been a signal...
Revolutionist fan
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 15 2012 10:33 GMT
#771
Poll: Recommend Leenock vs. Symbol Game 2?

If you have time (11)
 
65%

Yes (4)
 
24%

No (2)
 
12%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Leenock vs. Symbol Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 15 2012 10:34 GMT
#772
gg Leenock
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 10:34:37
November 15 2012 10:34 GMT
#773
On November 15 2012 19:32 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 19:31 felisconcolori wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:28 opterown wrote:
it's almost impossible really to say conclusively one player > other


I don't know about that. I know, for example, that MKP >>>> me.

You could make other arguments using certain foreign pros, but I don't want to say negative things about them.

haha, i meant near the top ofc :p

http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players

this is sort of like a combined TLPD, still not a good indication but better than TLPD Elo imo

That's Glicko. Yes, it's better, but it's not transparent. (To me, anyway.) They don't publish RDs for example.

Also, the search function doesn't work.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
November 15 2012 10:34 GMT
#774
good zvz
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 15 2012 10:34 GMT
#775
Also, Artosis solo cast? (I just started watching, because YAY TWITCH and my cell phone at work.)

Does the idea of Group Z make Tasteless sick?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 15 2012 10:34 GMT
#776
On November 15 2012 19:33 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 19:31 Elem wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:25 Dodgin wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:25 MCDayC wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:24 Dodgin wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:23 opterown wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:22 Dodgin wrote:
On November 15 2012 19:17 Fionn wrote:
Fucking, GSL.

The narrative is LIFE AND LEENOCK ARE THE TWO BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD. STOP MESSING UP YOUR STORY.

We're going to be left with a Ryung, Sniper, Hyun, and Soulkey semifinal, aren't we?

Both Code S tournaments in November have been weird.


Leenock better than Rain?

wat

wat, 4-2


beating him in head to head does not make him a better player

also, he's zerg, no offense to leenock he's the least patchzergy zerg of all but he's still zerg

LOL
Zerg instantly makes you a worse player?


I don't think you understand

I'm saying head to head is not that meaningful because ZvP is currently stupid
ZvP has been stupid for 3 years, wtf is your point?


the point is they could split games with rain winning with two base all ins and leenock winning in the late game and one of them could win more than the other but it wouldn't be proof of anything.

It'd be proof of something, that infestors are really good.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 15 2012 10:34 GMT
#777
On November 15 2012 19:33 Salteador Neo wrote:
Damn this game is boring, most LR talking about other stuff should have been a signal...

well Leenock was ahead for half the game so
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
November 15 2012 10:34 GMT
#778
On November 15 2012 19:25 Yello wrote:
(Z)Leenock vs (Z)Symbol
Game 2
Map: Daybreak



0:00min
Leenock spawns in the bottom left location
Symbol spawns in the top right location

2:00min
Both players go for the 15 Hatch

4:00min
Both players build the Pool and Gas, Leenock is a few seconds ahead on the Gas while Symbol is a few seconds ahead on the Pool

6:00min
Both players go for Ling-Speed, 2 Queens and Drones, Drones and Drones
Both players build a Baneling Nest.

Guy, this is what we call a mirror match

Both players build a Spine Crawler
Finally something different:
Leenock goes for Evolution Chamber and +1 Armor and a faster 2nd Gas while Smybol goes for fast Lair and adds 3 Extractors

8:00min
Symbol throws down his Roach Warren, Infestation Pit and Evochamber
Leenock takes a third hatchery and builds a Roach Warren and Infestation Pit as well.
We are back at the mirror part.

10:00min
Symbol builds some Lings and Banelings when seeing Leenocks third but Leenock cleans it up with his own Lings and Banelings and is able to cancel Symbol's third with his own Lings before Symbol's Roaches pop


12:00min
Symbol takes his third again and tries to deny Leenock's third with his Roaches but needs to back off when he sees that Leenock got a lot of Infestors already

Symbol has more Roaches and Burrow and is ahead on the +2 research (Leenock has +1armor though) but only now starts to build Infestors

14:00min
Symbol tries to run by with Roaches and burrow them everywhere in Leenock's bases but Leenock builds Overseers and defends well
Leenock is aheard 160 supply to 140

16:00min
Leenock starts pushing across the map, running Lings and Roaches into Symbols natural. He gets fungaled by Symbol's Infestors though. Leenock's Infestors lag behind and all his Roaches get cleaned up rather easily by Symbol

With that fight Symbol equalizes the supply-counts

18:00min
Leenock camps outside of Symbol's bases with Roaches and Infestors. Both players add Hydras, Symbol is a little bit faster on that. Leenock has more Infestors though

Both players are about to be maxed, Symbol starts his Hive
Leenock takes his 4th.

20:00min
Leenock pushes into Symbol's third with a lot of Roaches and Infested Terrans while also pushing into the natural with some Roaches.

The Roaches kill some Drones in the natural and main, the army at the third gets cleaned up but Leenock saves all his Infestors. Leenock remaxes with Roaches and Hydras at his 4th. Symbol tries to find a hole in Leenock's defense but Leenock is on top of it and Fungals a lot of Roaches and kills them with his Hydras.

22:00min
Symbol tries to push in again but Leenock is too far ahead at this point and he cleans up Symbol's units. With no 4th base to fall back on Symbol has to leave the game.

Both players are tied at 1-1!
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
November 15 2012 10:34 GMT
#779
On November 15 2012 19:31 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 19:30 Pwnzer wrote:
I wonder what enemy overlords that are sitting right next to each other one the map talk about...

Comparing benefits and hours.


HAHAHAHA
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 15 2012 10:35 GMT
#780
WOOOH GOGOGOOG REEENOCCKUUU
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 95 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
17:00
Masters Cup #150: Group D
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 91
BRAT_OK 48
Livibee 42
UpATreeSC 37
SteadfastSC 37
RushiSC 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 18245
Calm 2826
Rain 2514
Mini 1017
Shuttle 801
EffOrt 530
BeSt 247
Soulkey 178
firebathero 162
Hyun 130
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 125
Backho 67
Snow 67
scan(afreeca) 24
Mong 16
IntoTheRainbow 10
Dota 2
Gorgc5842
singsing2924
syndereN240
Counter-Strike
byalli5794
markeloff190
oskar109
Other Games
FrodaN1847
B2W.Neo1325
hiko765
crisheroes343
Beastyqt337
DeMusliM300
RotterdaM272
Hui .190
mouzStarbuck187
KnowMe173
ArmadaUGS133
Mew2King119
XaKoH 87
Trikslyr28
MindelVK8
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV938
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream143
Other Games
BasetradeTV85
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 11
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler101
• Noizen40
• lizZardDota233
League of Legends
• TFBlade1565
Other Games
• WagamamaTV363
• Shiphtur225
Upcoming Events
LAN Event
34m
Replay Cast
5h 34m
Replay Cast
15h 34m
WardiTV Korean Royale
18h 34m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 16h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.