Sunday, Nov 11 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) EU: Monday, Nov 12 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
9 Week Regular Season BO3s Loser's Pick (1 veto each) Each Match has $150 on the line, winner takes all Full Schedule
Map Pool Cloud Kingdom Daybreak Entombed Valley Metropolis Muspelheim Ohana Whirlwind
The broadcast will open with the NASL Open Semi-Finals (both matches) then go into the regular broadcast followed by the finals of the Open at the end of the night.
EGDeMusliM 2-1 FnaticRC.NightEnD coL.qxc 2-0 mTw.DIMAGA Gamania.Sen 2-0 MVPfinale MMA 2-0 EGStephanoRC FnaticRC.Oz 1-2 aTn.ClouD (Probably a dumb prediction, but I feel like predicting at least one upset.) LiquidTLO 2-0 aTn.ClouD
On November 11 2012 16:42 RPR_Tempest wrote: Predictions:
EGDeMusliM 2-1 FnaticRC.NightEnD coL.qxc 2-0 mTw.DIMAGA Gamania.Sen 2-0 MVPfinale MMA 2-0 EGStephanoRC FnaticRC.Oz 1-2 aTn.ClouD (Probably a dumb prediction, but I feel like predicting at least one upset.) LiquidTLO 2-0 aTn.ClouD
On November 11 2012 16:42 RPR_Tempest wrote: Predictions:
EGDeMusliM 2-1 FnaticRC.NightEnD coL.qxc 2-0 mTw.DIMAGA Gamania.Sen 2-0 MVPfinale MMA 2-0 EGStephanoRC FnaticRC.Oz 1-2 aTn.ClouD (Probably a dumb prediction, but I feel like predicting at least one upset.) LiquidTLO 2-0 aTn.ClouD
On November 11 2012 16:42 RPR_Tempest wrote: Predictions:
EGDeMusliM 2-1 FnaticRC.NightEnD coL.qxc 2-0 mTw.DIMAGA Gamania.Sen 2-0 MVPfinale MMA 2-0 EGStephanoRC FnaticRC.Oz 1-2 aTn.ClouD (Probably a dumb prediction, but I feel like predicting at least one upset.) LiquidTLO 2-0 aTn.ClouD
yea Oz will lose to Cloud after beating Polt (and Leenock once) at MLG *facepalm*
Oz actually only loses to players worse than Code A level when its a PvP... (as tragically seen today again in Code A qualifiers)
DeMusliM 2-0 NightEnD qxc 0-2 DIMAGA SEn 1-2 finale MMA 1-2 Stephano Oz 2-0 Cloud TLO 2-1 Cloud
On November 11 2012 16:42 RPR_Tempest wrote: Predictions:
EGDeMusliM 2-1 FnaticRC.NightEnD coL.qxc 2-0 mTw.DIMAGA Gamania.Sen 2-0 MVPfinale MMA 2-0 EGStephanoRC FnaticRC.Oz 1-2 aTn.ClouD (Probably a dumb prediction, but I feel like predicting at least one upset.) LiquidTLO 2-0 aTn.ClouD
You don't think qxc beating Dimaga is an upset???
You have to get used to RPR_Tempest. He always bets on NA players/teams.
On November 11 2012 16:33 Dexington wrote: I'm fairly certain both MMA and Stephano move on to the wildcards regardless of the outcome.
Edit: It depends on Sheth's match and after that, tie breakers if necessary
Edit2: If Sheth wins, then there could be a big playoff spot between Stephano/MMA, Ryung. Puma for the last spot.
For the wilcards we should have
Oz/Arthur Demu/Sen/Finale Huk Dark Hero Alicia Mana Vibe Select Zenio
If Sheth loses regardless of score, MMA, Stephano, Ryung and Puma fill out the wildcards
Obviously the winner of MMA/Stephano is in. If Sheth wins, he is in. If MMA or Stephano each take a game, they are both in.
Sen/Finale are guaranteed to get seeded. Worst possible case is 6-2 with a +7 score which equals MC and qualifies.
No, if Demuslim wins then he and the winner of Sen/finale get seeded, as it's the top 3 of the second places. While the loser will have a better record than most everyone else, he still won't get seeded unless Demu loses.
On November 12 2012 01:17 ibo422 wrote: Btw, for ppl checking the color sheme on liquipedia.. it's kinda wrong atm, so ignore it for a day.
On November 12 2012 05:03 Dexington wrote: You're right about TT1 and I changed that when I saw your original post. Alive is out though because he is 2-6.
On November 12 2012 05:03 Dexington wrote: You're right about TT1 and I changed that when I saw your original post. Alive is out though because he is 2-6.
Any reference to that?
couple of walkovers, aLive doesnt really care about NASL
On November 12 2012 05:03 Dexington wrote: You're right about TT1 and I changed that when I saw your original post. Alive is out though because he is 2-6.
Any reference to that?
Reference to what? That's his record. Regardless of map score 2-6 is always worse than 3-5. He is out.
The whole season has been a point system where only games won/lost (the difference between it) have mattered. Why would they look at match records to determine the player's faith?! Oh well, i'm sure we will get a clarification on this during the live cast.
ibo, I see what you're saying, but in the case aLive, Galaxy, TT1 and Nightend are "tied" at -4, aLive loses an obvious tie breaker for having the worse match score.
On November 11 2012 16:33 Dexington wrote: I'm fairly certain both MMA and Stephano move on to the wildcards regardless of the outcome.
Edit: It depends on Sheth's match and after that, tie breakers if necessary
Edit2: If Sheth wins, then there could be a big playoff spot between Stephano/MMA, Ryung. Puma for the last spot.
For the wilcards we should have
Oz/Arthur Demu/Sen/Finale Huk Dark Hero Alicia Mana Vibe Select Zenio
If Sheth loses regardless of score, MMA, Stephano, Ryung and Puma fill out the wildcards
Obviously the winner of MMA/Stephano is in. If Sheth wins, he is in. If MMA or Stephano each take a game, they are both in.
Sen/Finale are guaranteed to get seeded. Worst possible case is 6-2 with a +7 score which equals MC and qualifies.
No, if Demuslim wins then he and the winner of Sen/finale get seeded, as it's the top 3 of the second places. While the loser will have a better record than most everyone else, he still won't get seeded unless Demu loses.
On November 11 2012 16:33 Dexington wrote: I'm fairly certain both MMA and Stephano move on to the wildcards regardless of the outcome.
Edit: It depends on Sheth's match and after that, tie breakers if necessary
Edit2: If Sheth wins, then there could be a big playoff spot between Stephano/MMA, Ryung. Puma for the last spot.
For the wilcards we should have
Oz/Arthur Demu/Sen/Finale Huk Dark Hero Alicia Mana Vibe Select Zenio
If Sheth loses regardless of score, MMA, Stephano, Ryung and Puma fill out the wildcards
Obviously the winner of MMA/Stephano is in. If Sheth wins, he is in. If MMA or Stephano each take a game, they are both in.
Sen/Finale are guaranteed to get seeded. Worst possible case is 6-2 with a +7 score which equals MC and qualifies.
No, if Demuslim wins then he and the winner of Sen/finale get seeded, as it's the top 3 of the second places. While the loser will have a better record than most everyone else, he still won't get seeded unless Demu loses.
On November 12 2012 01:17 ibo422 wrote: Btw, for ppl checking the color sheme on liquipedia.. it's kinda wrong atm, so ignore it for a day.
I disagree
So confused, are you saying that three people can't qualify from one division?
Say Demuslim wins 2-0, goes 6-2 with +9, and Finale loses to Sen 0-2 for arguments sake. Then Sen is 7-1 +11, and Finale is 6-2 +7.
Finale would have the same exact record as MC who is already qualified (exact map score, and 6-2) .
Oz is at +6 with 6-2, and Arthur is at the same.
Listing the top 8 would be Sen Polt viOLet Hyun Taeja MC Demuslim And Finale! Who else could match it?
You could do the same with Sen.
I think the coloring at Liquipedia isn't quite right at the moment, I don't think MC is already qualified. Edit: I'm stupid, I thought it would be the three non division winners with best score but it is only a competition between the second place finishers.
On November 11 2012 16:33 Dexington wrote: I'm fairly certain both MMA and Stephano move on to the wildcards regardless of the outcome.
Edit: It depends on Sheth's match and after that, tie breakers if necessary
Edit2: If Sheth wins, then there could be a big playoff spot between Stephano/MMA, Ryung. Puma for the last spot.
For the wilcards we should have
Oz/Arthur Demu/Sen/Finale Huk Dark Hero Alicia Mana Vibe Select Zenio
If Sheth loses regardless of score, MMA, Stephano, Ryung and Puma fill out the wildcards
Obviously the winner of MMA/Stephano is in. If Sheth wins, he is in. If MMA or Stephano each take a game, they are both in.
Sen/Finale are guaranteed to get seeded. Worst possible case is 6-2 with a +7 score which equals MC and qualifies.
No, if Demuslim wins then he and the winner of Sen/finale get seeded, as it's the top 3 of the second places. While the loser will have a better record than most everyone else, he still won't get seeded unless Demu loses.
On November 12 2012 01:17 ibo422 wrote: Btw, for ppl checking the color sheme on liquipedia.. it's kinda wrong atm, so ignore it for a day.
I disagree
So confused, are you saying that three people can't qualify from one division?
Say Demuslim wins 2-0, goes 6-2 with +9, and Finale loses to Sen 0-2 for arguments sake. Then Sen is 7-1 +11, and Finale is 6-2 +7.
Finale would have the same exact record as MC who is already qualified (exact map score, and 6-2) .
Oz is at +6 with 6-2, and Arthur is at the same.
Listing the top 8 would be Sen Polt viOLet Hyun Taeja MC Demuslim And Finale! Who else could match it?
You could do the same with Sen.
I think the coloring at Liquipedia isn't quite right at the moment, I don't think MC is already qualified. Edit: I'm stupid, I thought it would be the three non division winners with best score but it is only a competition between the second place finishers.
Ooooh, That makes sense now.
And that is completely fucking stupid not to do it by record.
On November 11 2012 16:33 Dexington wrote: I'm fairly certain both MMA and Stephano move on to the wildcards regardless of the outcome.
Edit: It depends on Sheth's match and after that, tie breakers if necessary
Edit2: If Sheth wins, then there could be a big playoff spot between Stephano/MMA, Ryung. Puma for the last spot.
For the wilcards we should have
Oz/Arthur Demu/Sen/Finale Huk Dark Hero Alicia Mana Vibe Select Zenio
If Sheth loses regardless of score, MMA, Stephano, Ryung and Puma fill out the wildcards
Obviously the winner of MMA/Stephano is in. If Sheth wins, he is in. If MMA or Stephano each take a game, they are both in.
Sen/Finale are guaranteed to get seeded. Worst possible case is 6-2 with a +7 score which equals MC and qualifies.
No, if Demuslim wins then he and the winner of Sen/finale get seeded, as it's the top 3 of the second places. While the loser will have a better record than most everyone else, he still won't get seeded unless Demu loses.
On November 12 2012 01:17 ibo422 wrote: Btw, for ppl checking the color sheme on liquipedia.. it's kinda wrong atm, so ignore it for a day.
I disagree
So confused, are you saying that three people can't qualify from one division?
Say Demuslim wins 2-0, goes 6-2 with +9, and Finale loses to Sen 0-2 for arguments sake. Then Sen is 7-1 +11, and Finale is 6-2 +7.
Finale would have the same exact record as MC who is already qualified (exact map score, and 6-2) .
Oz is at +6 with 6-2, and Arthur is at the same.
Listing the top 8 would be Sen Polt viOLet Hyun Taeja MC Demuslim And Finale! Who else could match it?
You could do the same with Sen.
I think the coloring at Liquipedia isn't quite right at the moment, I don't think MC is already qualified. Edit: I'm stupid, I thought it would be the three non division winners with best score but it is only a competition between the second place finishers.
Ooooh, That makes sense now.
And that is completely fucking stupid not to do it by record.
The way it works is that the top in each division get into playoffs (5 players) THEN all the players are ranked by record (then by points) and THOSE top 3 are seeded into playoffs, regardless of their place in their divisions.
On November 11 2012 16:33 Dexington wrote: I'm fairly certain both MMA and Stephano move on to the wildcards regardless of the outcome.
Edit: It depends on Sheth's match and after that, tie breakers if necessary
Edit2: If Sheth wins, then there could be a big playoff spot between Stephano/MMA, Ryung. Puma for the last spot.
For the wilcards we should have
Oz/Arthur Demu/Sen/Finale Huk Dark Hero Alicia Mana Vibe Select Zenio
If Sheth loses regardless of score, MMA, Stephano, Ryung and Puma fill out the wildcards
Obviously the winner of MMA/Stephano is in. If Sheth wins, he is in. If MMA or Stephano each take a game, they are both in.
Sen/Finale are guaranteed to get seeded. Worst possible case is 6-2 with a +7 score which equals MC and qualifies.
No, if Demuslim wins then he and the winner of Sen/finale get seeded, as it's the top 3 of the second places. While the loser will have a better record than most everyone else, he still won't get seeded unless Demu loses.
On November 12 2012 01:17 ibo422 wrote: Btw, for ppl checking the color sheme on liquipedia.. it's kinda wrong atm, so ignore it for a day.
I disagree
So confused, are you saying that three people can't qualify from one division?
Say Demuslim wins 2-0, goes 6-2 with +9, and Finale loses to Sen 0-2 for arguments sake. Then Sen is 7-1 +11, and Finale is 6-2 +7.
Finale would have the same exact record as MC who is already qualified (exact map score, and 6-2) .
Oz is at +6 with 6-2, and Arthur is at the same.
Listing the top 8 would be Sen Polt viOLet Hyun Taeja MC Demuslim And Finale! Who else could match it?
You could do the same with Sen.
I think the coloring at Liquipedia isn't quite right at the moment, I don't think MC is already qualified. Edit: I'm stupid, I thought it would be the three non division winners with best score but it is only a competition between the second place finishers.
Ooooh, That makes sense now.
And that is completely fucking stupid not to do it by record.
The way it works is that the top in each division get into playoffs (5 players) THEN all the players are ranked by record (then by points) and THOSE top 3 are seeded into playoffs, regardless of their place in their divisions.
So it's possible DeMusliM, finale, and Sen all advance with MC and 2nd place in divs 1-3 are in wildcards?
On November 11 2012 16:33 Dexington wrote: I'm fairly certain both MMA and Stephano move on to the wildcards regardless of the outcome.
Edit: It depends on Sheth's match and after that, tie breakers if necessary
Edit2: If Sheth wins, then there could be a big playoff spot between Stephano/MMA, Ryung. Puma for the last spot.
For the wilcards we should have
Oz/Arthur Demu/Sen/Finale Huk Dark Hero Alicia Mana Vibe Select Zenio
If Sheth loses regardless of score, MMA, Stephano, Ryung and Puma fill out the wildcards
Obviously the winner of MMA/Stephano is in. If Sheth wins, he is in. If MMA or Stephano each take a game, they are both in.
Sen/Finale are guaranteed to get seeded. Worst possible case is 6-2 with a +7 score which equals MC and qualifies.
No, if Demuslim wins then he and the winner of Sen/finale get seeded, as it's the top 3 of the second places. While the loser will have a better record than most everyone else, he still won't get seeded unless Demu loses.
On November 12 2012 01:17 ibo422 wrote: Btw, for ppl checking the color sheme on liquipedia.. it's kinda wrong atm, so ignore it for a day.
I disagree
So confused, are you saying that three people can't qualify from one division?
Say Demuslim wins 2-0, goes 6-2 with +9, and Finale loses to Sen 0-2 for arguments sake. Then Sen is 7-1 +11, and Finale is 6-2 +7.
Finale would have the same exact record as MC who is already qualified (exact map score, and 6-2) .
Oz is at +6 with 6-2, and Arthur is at the same.
Listing the top 8 would be Sen Polt viOLet Hyun Taeja MC Demuslim And Finale! Who else could match it?
You could do the same with Sen.
I think the coloring at Liquipedia isn't quite right at the moment, I don't think MC is already qualified. Edit: I'm stupid, I thought it would be the three non division winners with best score but it is only a competition between the second place finishers.
Ooooh, That makes sense now.
And that is completely fucking stupid not to do it by record.
The way it works is that the top in each division get into playoffs (5 players) THEN all the players are ranked by record (then by points) and THOSE top 3 are seeded into playoffs, regardless of their place in their divisions.
Oh, then I was right! Thanks!
I was going by the quote off NASL Liquipedia that states: "Of the second place finishers in each division, the three with the best record advance to the main event bracket "
Which seems to suggest differently. Someone needs to change that.
On November 11 2012 16:33 Dexington wrote: I'm fairly certain both MMA and Stephano move on to the wildcards regardless of the outcome.
Edit: It depends on Sheth's match and after that, tie breakers if necessary
Edit2: If Sheth wins, then there could be a big playoff spot between Stephano/MMA, Ryung. Puma for the last spot.
For the wilcards we should have
Oz/Arthur Demu/Sen/Finale Huk Dark Hero Alicia Mana Vibe Select Zenio
If Sheth loses regardless of score, MMA, Stephano, Ryung and Puma fill out the wildcards
Obviously the winner of MMA/Stephano is in. If Sheth wins, he is in. If MMA or Stephano each take a game, they are both in.
Sen/Finale are guaranteed to get seeded. Worst possible case is 6-2 with a +7 score which equals MC and qualifies.
No, if Demuslim wins then he and the winner of Sen/finale get seeded, as it's the top 3 of the second places. While the loser will have a better record than most everyone else, he still won't get seeded unless Demu loses.
On November 12 2012 01:17 ibo422 wrote: Btw, for ppl checking the color sheme on liquipedia.. it's kinda wrong atm, so ignore it for a day.
I disagree
So confused, are you saying that three people can't qualify from one division?
Say Demuslim wins 2-0, goes 6-2 with +9, and Finale loses to Sen 0-2 for arguments sake. Then Sen is 7-1 +11, and Finale is 6-2 +7.
Finale would have the same exact record as MC who is already qualified (exact map score, and 6-2) .
Oz is at +6 with 6-2, and Arthur is at the same.
Listing the top 8 would be Sen Polt viOLet Hyun Taeja MC Demuslim And Finale! Who else could match it?
You could do the same with Sen.
I think the coloring at Liquipedia isn't quite right at the moment, I don't think MC is already qualified. Edit: I'm stupid, I thought it would be the three non division winners with best score but it is only a competition between the second place finishers.
Ooooh, That makes sense now.
And that is completely fucking stupid not to do it by record.
The way it works is that the top in each division get into playoffs (5 players) THEN all the players are ranked by record (then by points) and THOSE top 3 are seeded into playoffs, regardless of their place in their divisions.
Oh, then I was right! Thanks!
I was going by the quote off NASL Liquipedia that states: "Of the second place finishers in each division, the three with the best record advance to the main event bracket "
Which seems to suggest differently. Someone needs to change that.
On November 11 2012 16:33 Dexington wrote: I'm fairly certain both MMA and Stephano move on to the wildcards regardless of the outcome.
Edit: It depends on Sheth's match and after that, tie breakers if necessary
Edit2: If Sheth wins, then there could be a big playoff spot between Stephano/MMA, Ryung. Puma for the last spot.
For the wilcards we should have
Oz/Arthur Demu/Sen/Finale Huk Dark Hero Alicia Mana Vibe Select Zenio
If Sheth loses regardless of score, MMA, Stephano, Ryung and Puma fill out the wildcards
Obviously the winner of MMA/Stephano is in. If Sheth wins, he is in. If MMA or Stephano each take a game, they are both in.
Sen/Finale are guaranteed to get seeded. Worst possible case is 6-2 with a +7 score which equals MC and qualifies.
No, if Demuslim wins then he and the winner of Sen/finale get seeded, as it's the top 3 of the second places. While the loser will have a better record than most everyone else, he still won't get seeded unless Demu loses.
On November 12 2012 01:17 ibo422 wrote: Btw, for ppl checking the color sheme on liquipedia.. it's kinda wrong atm, so ignore it for a day.
I disagree
So confused, are you saying that three people can't qualify from one division?
Say Demuslim wins 2-0, goes 6-2 with +9, and Finale loses to Sen 0-2 for arguments sake. Then Sen is 7-1 +11, and Finale is 6-2 +7.
Finale would have the same exact record as MC who is already qualified (exact map score, and 6-2) .
Oz is at +6 with 6-2, and Arthur is at the same.
Listing the top 8 would be Sen Polt viOLet Hyun Taeja MC Demuslim And Finale! Who else could match it?
You could do the same with Sen.
I think the coloring at Liquipedia isn't quite right at the moment, I don't think MC is already qualified. Edit: I'm stupid, I thought it would be the three non division winners with best score but it is only a competition between the second place finishers.
Ooooh, That makes sense now.
And that is completely fucking stupid not to do it by record.
The way it works is that the top in each division get into playoffs (5 players) THEN all the players are ranked by record (then by points) and THOSE top 3 are seeded into playoffs, regardless of their place in their divisions.
Oh, then I was right! Thanks!
I was going by the quote off NASL Liquipedia that states: "Of the second place finishers in each division, the three with the best record advance to the main event bracket "
Which seems to suggest differently. Someone needs to change that.
And yeah, this is what I was afraid of. The standing were decided by total points (games won minus games lost) the whole season and at the end it's the match record that gets ahead of the total points...
On November 12 2012 08:15 ibo422 wrote: And yeah, this is what I was afraid of. The standing were decided by total points (games won minus games lost) the whole season and at the end it's the match record that gets ahead of the total points...
What do you mean? Record always comes before points (wins minus losses), points are for tiebreaks if their records are the same.
On November 12 2012 08:15 ibo422 wrote: And yeah, this is what I was afraid of. The standing were decided by total points (games won minus games lost) the whole season and at the end it's the match record that gets ahead of the total points...
What do you mean? Record always comes before points (wins minus losses), points are for tiebreaks if their records are the same.
He means the people that have been editing liquipedia are stupid. edit - What I mean by this is I just edited switching LoWeLy and Strelok in division 3. LoWeLy had less points but a better match record so the editors thought he was last place in the group.
I was updating liquipedia till I noticed the standings were calculated differently with your site. On NASL site you guys take the difference between games won and games lost to calculate the standings (regardless of matches won/lost). On liquipedia the players were sorted on matches won then games won (regardless of mathes lost and games lost). Any clarification on this so we don't misinform everyone that's using liquipedia? Thanks.
So I'm doing the math right now. MC is guaranteed 7th or 8th place, he's in the playoffs. If DeMusliM wins, Sen, finale, and DeMusliM are in the playoffs from Division 5. If DeMusliM loses, he's in the wildcards and Oz and Arthur play a tiebreaker for the final playoff spot. If NightEnD wins, him, Galaxy and TT1 have to play a tiebreaker to remain in the league. If NightEnD loses, he's out of the league. ALL THE THINGS DEPEND ON DEMUSLIM VS. NIGHTEND.
a 2-0 win gives a player 2 points, a 2-1 win gives a player 1 point, a 1-2 loss gives a player -1 point, and a 0-2 loss give a player -2 points.
The standings are by total points.
I hope this helps to clarify. If you have any further questions, please direct them to admin@nasl.tv
Thank you.
Original Message From ibo422: Hello
I was updating liquipedia till I noticed the standings were calculated differently with your site. On NASL site you guys take the difference between games won and games lost to calculate the standings (regardless of matches won/lost). On liquipedia the players were sorted on matches won then games won (regardless of mathes lost and games lost). Any clarification on this so we don't misinform everyone that's using liquipedia? Thanks.
Greetings
Ibo
I just spoke with the person who originally sent you that PM in October. Standing are by record, then total points. It was a miss-communication, sorry for the confusion.
On November 12 2012 08:15 ibo422 wrote: And yeah, this is what I was afraid of. The standing were decided by total points (games won minus games lost) the whole season and at the end it's the match record that gets ahead of the total points...
What do you mean? Record always comes before points (wins minus losses), points are for tiebreaks if their records are the same.
He means the people that have been editing liquipedia are stupid. edit - What I mean by this is I just edited switching LoWeLy and Strelok in division 3. LoWeLy had less points but a better match record so the editors thought he was last place in the group.
Yeah I don't know who started doing it that way, it started happening during the few weeks I wasn't paying attention.
On November 12 2012 08:15 ibo422 wrote: And yeah, this is what I was afraid of. The standing were decided by total points (games won minus games lost) the whole season and at the end it's the match record that gets ahead of the total points...
What do you mean? Record always comes before points (wins minus losses), points are for tiebreaks if their records are the same.
He means the people that have been editing liquipedia are stupid. edit - What I mean by this is I just edited switching LoWeLy and Strelok in division 3. LoWeLy had less points but a better match record so the editors thought he was last place in the group.
Yeah I don't know who started doing it that way, it started happening during the few weeks I wasn't paying attention.
I did according to the info I got after week 3 orso.
On November 12 2012 08:31 ibo422 wrote: This might help to clarify my previous post.
Original Message From NASL.tv: Hello.
Our standings are very simple
a 2-0 win gives a player 2 points, a 2-1 win gives a player 1 point, a 1-2 loss gives a player -1 point, and a 0-2 loss give a player -2 points.
The standings are by total points.
I hope this helps to clarify. If you have any further questions, please direct them to admin@nasl.tv
Thank you.
Original Message From ibo422: Hello
I was updating liquipedia till I noticed the standings were calculated differently with your site. On NASL site you guys take the difference between games won and games lost to calculate the standings (regardless of matches won/lost). On liquipedia the players were sorted on matches won then games won (regardless of mathes lost and games lost). Any clarification on this so we don't misinform everyone that's using liquipedia? Thanks.
Greetings
Ibo
I just spoke with the person who originally sent you that PM in October. Standing are by record, then total points. It was a miss-communication, sorry for the confusion.
On November 12 2012 09:21 Elite_ wrote: MMA Stephano reschedule... TT
edit - did more math, DRG and HwangSin aren't in wildcards. 0% chance. Sheth wins = Sheth wildcards, sheth loses = Ryung, PuMa, & loser of MMA/Stephano tiebreaker.
That wouldn't make sense because all MMA Stephano does is shift seeds in the top 12, it doesn't knock anyone out. Even though the loser of MMA/Stephano will be at +1 it doesn't move anyone out of the top 12 because they're both above hwangsin and DRG (the ones tied for the last spot right now) in the first place. It all depends on Sheth losing to Thorzain because if Sheth loses 0-2 it's a tie between Hwangsin & DRG, and if sheth loses 2-1, it's a 3-way tie between sheth, hwangsin, and DRG, right?
On November 12 2012 09:21 Elite_ wrote: MMA Stephano reschedule... TT
edit - did more math, DRG and HwangSin aren't in wildcards. 0% chance. Sheth wins = Sheth wildcards, sheth loses = Ryung, PuMa, & loser of MMA/Stephano tiebreaker.
That wouldn't make sense because all MMA Stephano does is shift seeds in the top 12, it doesn't knock anyone out. Even though the loser of MMA/Stephano will be at +1 it doesn't move anyone out of the top 12 because they're both above hwangsin and DRG (the ones tied for the last spot right now) in the first place. It all depends on Sheth losing to Thorzain because if Sheth loses 0-2 it's a tie between Hwangsin & DRG, and if sheth loses 2-1, it's a 3-way tie between sheth, hwangsin, and DRG, right?
I'm looking at it as If DeMusliM beats NightEnD because I see it more likely than NightEnD winning, making Arthur and Oz behind DeMusliM, finale, and Sen, making them the top 2 spots in wildcards and DeMusliM/finale/Sen top 8/in playoffs... and Stephano/MMA losing makes them 4-4 +1 score tied with PuMa/Ryung... Does this make more sense now, hopefully?
edit - When I looked at this it all depends on map score of the matches... PuMa/Ryung will be out if MMA/Stephano is 2-1 either way... @_@
On November 12 2012 09:21 Elite_ wrote: MMA Stephano reschedule... TT
edit - did more math, DRG and HwangSin aren't in wildcards. 0% chance. Sheth wins = Sheth wildcards, sheth loses = Ryung, PuMa, & loser of MMA/Stephano tiebreaker.
That wouldn't make sense because all MMA Stephano does is shift seeds in the top 12, it doesn't knock anyone out. Even though the loser of MMA/Stephano will be at +1 it doesn't move anyone out of the top 12 because they're both above hwangsin and DRG (the ones tied for the last spot right now) in the first place. It all depends on Sheth losing to Thorzain because if Sheth loses 0-2 it's a tie between Hwangsin & DRG, and if sheth loses 2-1, it's a 3-way tie between sheth, hwangsin, and DRG, right?
I'm looking at it as If DeMusliM beats NightEnD because I see it more likely than NightEnD winning, making Arthur and Oz behind DeMusliM, finale, and Sen, making them the top 2 spots in wildcards and DeMusliM/finale/Sen top 8/in playoffs... and Stephano/MMA losing makes them 4-4 +1 score tied with PuMa/Ryung... Does this make more sense now, hopefully?
edit - When I looked at this it all depends on map score of the matches... PuMa/Ryung will be out if MMA/Stephano is 2-1 either way... @_@
On November 12 2012 09:21 Elite_ wrote: MMA Stephano reschedule... TT
edit - did more math, DRG and HwangSin aren't in wildcards. 0% chance. Sheth wins = Sheth wildcards, sheth loses = Ryung, PuMa, & loser of MMA/Stephano tiebreaker.
That wouldn't make sense because all MMA Stephano does is shift seeds in the top 12, it doesn't knock anyone out. Even though the loser of MMA/Stephano will be at +1 it doesn't move anyone out of the top 12 because they're both above hwangsin and DRG (the ones tied for the last spot right now) in the first place. It all depends on Sheth losing to Thorzain because if Sheth loses 0-2 it's a tie between Hwangsin & DRG, and if sheth loses 2-1, it's a 3-way tie between sheth, hwangsin, and DRG, right?
I'm looking at it as If DeMusliM beats NightEnD because I see it more likely than NightEnD winning, making Arthur and Oz behind DeMusliM, finale, and Sen, making them the top 2 spots in wildcards and DeMusliM/finale/Sen top 8/in playoffs... and Stephano/MMA losing makes them 4-4 +1 score tied with PuMa/Ryung... Does this make more sense now, hopefully?
edit - When I looked at this it all depends on map score of the matches... PuMa/Ryung will be out if MMA/Stephano is 2-1 either way... @_@
My brain D:
Sorry... I'm stupid... I was thinking only 12 players made wildcards... It's 14... but yeah, it will be a PuMa/Ryung/[MMA/Stephano(if 2-0)] tie breaker for the top 2 of those 3 for a wildcard spot anyways... but yeah, 100% chance of a tie breaker involving Ryung vs. PuMa.
On November 11 2012 16:42 RPR_Tempest wrote: Predictions:
EGDeMusliM 2-1 FnaticRC.NightEnD coL.qxc 2-0 mTw.DIMAGA Gamania.Sen 2-0 MVPfinale MMA 2-0 EGStephanoRC FnaticRC.Oz 1-2 aTn.ClouD (Probably a dumb prediction, but I feel like predicting at least one upset.) LiquidTLO 2-0 aTn.ClouD
You don't think qxc beating Dimaga is an upset???
You have to get used to RPR_Tempest. He always bets on NA players/teams.
Um...no, I don't. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else.
On November 12 2012 13:00 Gatesleeper wrote: So I guess Stephano/MMA was rescheduled because Stephano is playing in the finals at LSC. Did qxc play his games from Austin?
The coL team house isn't very far away from the LSC2 venue so... @_@
On November 12 2012 13:00 Gatesleeper wrote: So I guess Stephano/MMA was rescheduled because Stephano is playing in the finals at LSC. Did qxc play his games from Austin?
On November 12 2012 13:49 Elite_ wrote: 1. Arthur 2. HuK 3. Oz 4. SeleCT 5. Zenio 6. Dark 7. HerO 8. Alicia 9. MaNa 10. Sheth 11. ViBE 12. MMA/Stephano 13. PuMa 14. Ryung
DRG/HWANGSIN HAVE A 0% CHANCE. BITTER AND FRODAN PLS.
MMA could lose 1-2 to Stephano and force a Puma v Ryung tiebreaker. Stephano could lose 2-1, or MMA loses 2-0 and there would be a 3 way tie between Puma, Ryung and the loser.
On November 12 2012 13:49 Elite_ wrote: 1. Arthur 2. HuK 3. Oz 4. SeleCT 5. Zenio 6. Dark 7. HerO 8. Alicia 9. MaNa 10. Sheth 11. ViBE 12. MMA/Stephano 13. PuMa 14. Ryung
DRG/HWANGSIN HAVE A 0% CHANCE. BITTER AND FRODAN PLS.
MMA could lose 1-2 to Stephano and force a Puma v Ryung tiebreaker. Stephano could lose 2-1, or MMA loses 2-0 and there would be a 3 way tie between Puma, Ryung and the loser.
That's true... but the main point of that post was to tell Bitter/Frodan that there's a 0% chance or need of a tiebreaker for DRG/HwangSin...
On November 12 2012 13:49 Elite_ wrote: 1. Arthur 2. HuK 3. Oz 4. SeleCT 5. Zenio 6. Dark 7. HerO 8. Alicia 9. MaNa 10. Sheth 11. ViBE 12. MMA/Stephano 13. PuMa 14. Ryung
DRG/HWANGSIN HAVE A 0% CHANCE. BITTER AND FRODAN PLS.
MMA could lose 1-2 to Stephano and force a Puma v Ryung tiebreaker. Stephano could lose 2-1, or MMA loses 2-0 and there would be a 3 way tie between Puma, Ryung and the loser.
That's true... but the main point of that post was to tell Bitter/Frodan that there's a 0% chance or need of a tiebreaker for DRG/HwangSin...
Well, now you can be aware that they can't even get 15th place, haha. But yeah, the Stephano v MMA game is the most important game left, determines a lot of people's fates.
On November 12 2012 13:49 Elite_ wrote: 1. Arthur 2. HuK 3. Oz 4. SeleCT 5. Zenio 6. Dark 7. HerO 8. Alicia 9. MaNa 10. Sheth 11. ViBE 12. MMA/Stephano 13. PuMa 14. Ryung
DRG/HWANGSIN HAVE A 0% CHANCE. BITTER AND FRODAN PLS.
MMA could lose 1-2 to Stephano and force a Puma v Ryung tiebreaker. Stephano could lose 2-1, or MMA loses 2-0 and there would be a 3 way tie between Puma, Ryung and the loser.
That's true... but the main point of that post was to tell Bitter/Frodan that there's a 0% chance or need of a tiebreaker for DRG/HwangSin...
Well, now you can be aware that they can't even get 15th place, haha. But yeah, the Stephano v MMA game is the most important game left, determines a lot of people's fates.
Another amazingly fun and interesting fact - it's the only match left of the regular season...
On November 12 2012 14:39 Popkiller wrote: someone edited liquipedia to say MMA 2-0 Stephano... there's no source for that, is there?
Bitter and Frodan said it might be a walkover for MMA if Stephano can't play tonight... but that's not 100% true... yet
edit - If the winner of this match gets the 3rd wildcard seed... Golden winning this is a huge success... 3rd seed faces 14th seed, AKA MaNa
I heard from one NASL worker that Stephano vs MMA had been rescheduled for the tiebreaker day. But I can't guarantee that it's accurate. At the very least I haven't heard any confirmation of it being a walkover
Edit: Checked previously in the thread and yeah it's postponed.
Your wildcard seeds: If Stephano wins 2-0 1/2. Arthur/Oz - tiebreaker 3. Golden 4. SortOf 5/6. Dark/ViBE - tiebreaker 7/8. SeleCT/Stephano - tiebreaker 9/10/11. HerO/Alicia/Sheth - tiebreaker 12/13. HuK/Zenio - tiebreaker 14. MaNa 15/16. PuMa/Ryung/MMA - Only 2 of them get in - tiebreaker
If Stephano wins 2-1 1/2. Arthur/Oz - tiebreaker 3. Golden 4. SortOf 5/6. Dark/ViBE - tiebreaker 7. SeleCT 8/9/10/11. HerO/Alicia/Sheth/Stephano - tiebreaker 12/13. HuK/Zenio - tiebreaker 14/15. MMA/MaNa - tiebreaker 16. PuMa/Ryung - Only one of them get in - tiebreaker
If MMA wins 2-0/gets the walkover 1/2. Arthur/Oz - tiebreaker 3. Golden 4. SortOf 5/6/7. Dark/ViBE/MMA - tiebreaker 8. SeleCT 9/10/11. HerO/Alicia/Sheth - tiebreaker 12/13. HuK/Zenio - tiebreaker 14. MaNa 15/16. PuMa/Ryung - tiebreaker 17. Stephano - out of wildcards.
If MMA wins 2-1 1/2. Arthur/Oz - tiebreaker 3. Golden 4. SortOf 5/6. Dark/ViBE - tiebreaker 7/8. MMA/SeleCT - tiebreaker 9/10/11. HerO/Alicia/Sheth - tiebreaker 12/13. HuK/Zenio - tiebreaker 14. MaNa 15/16/17. PuMa/Ryung/Stephano - Only 2 of them get in - tiebreaker
From somebody who hasn't really been paying attention throughout the season: Is there any shot of NaNiWa making it to the live finals? The NASL website doesn't seem to have been updated recently.
On November 13 2012 03:41 Mikau wrote: From somebody who hasn't really been paying attention throughout the season: Is there any shot of NaNiWa making it to the live finals? The NASL website doesn't seem to have been updated recently.
PLEASE Pull this off Stephano! MMA is a total baller too of cuorse, and to be honest probably could use the big win more than Stephano, but the chance to tie Puma's record and set up a tradition of NASL repeats would be just so awesome!
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