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On November 09 2012 22:33 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2012 22:31 krutopatkin wrote:On November 09 2012 22:25 Poopi wrote: Hahaha. As I thought FXO is nothing without the queen buff, Prime again losing because of the lack of a good ZvZer. -_- Sad. That's funny because FXO won the GSTL with an all kill by a terran. Against a SlayerS team who's former ace just walked out on the team and their 2 aces for the season were contemplating moving to LoL While coca had one of The best win loss ratios and mms provided us with an amazing TvT? Also leenock was good before the patch, stop bitching about everything
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On November 09 2012 22:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2012 22:25 Poopi wrote: Hahaha. As I thought FXO is nothing without the queen buff, Prime again losing because of the lack of a good ZvZer. -_- Sad. lol weren't you the same guy that was recognizing DRG as the only good ZvT and disregarding the current generation of ZvT as inferior due to the metagame..? Do you realize who Leenock is? Guy's been legit ever since open season 3. In fact, around this time last year I would have said he was by far the best ZvT considering he rolled MLG (along with MMA and MVP) and then proceeded to beat MVP again in a bo5 when he was at his best and where he was strongest in the gsl. Even to this day, I'd say Leenock retains the title of perhaps the best muta/ling/bling user, or at the very least the best at using burrow. tl;dr: Leenock is boss with or without any queen buff.
the guy was permad iirc for constant balance whining, somehow he's back and still whining, just ignore him
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wow leenock looking unstoppable, Sad i missed the games
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On November 09 2012 22:16 Darkthorn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2012 22:10 TeeTS wrote:On November 09 2012 22:06 NightOfTheDead wrote:On November 09 2012 21:56 Salteador Neo wrote:On November 09 2012 21:52 NightOfTheDead wrote:On November 09 2012 21:51 Waxangel wrote: Zerg 17 - 3 in last 20 GSL/GSTL games :D Well, Leenock =/= zerg. I thought that was Life? Damn so many new zerg bonjwas suddenly lol Season 2 - TvP final. Season 3 - PvP final Season 4 - TvZ final. Nothing changed balance wise. Must be metagame/skill. except this little queen/overlord buff I guess  the buff came before the season that drg won so ...
totally wrong. The buff came after every zerg was eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S in season 2. But nice try!
EDIT: and here's your proof http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Patch_1.4.3#Balance_Update
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On November 09 2012 22:15 vthree wrote: Has the win rate for a matchup in Code S been this bad? I know there was the GOMTvT era but that was due to more terrans being in Code S then pure win rates I think.
1-1-1 vs P and khay amu P vs everything come to mind as potential possibilities, but I have no idea
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I'm not really a fan of Leenock but he always had his fun style of play, similar to JulyZerg. Also he used lots of bane-mines in the past, sad to see them so rarely now.
He's been legit good before the patch, if you don't know this you didn't watch SC2. Leenock has shown so many interesting plays, that infestor kill squad vs DRG was so amazing... or the games between Jjakji and Leenock.
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On November 09 2012 22:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2012 22:25 Poopi wrote: Hahaha. As I thought FXO is nothing without the queen buff, Prime again losing because of the lack of a good ZvZer. -_- Sad. lol weren't you the same guy that was recognizing DRG as the only good ZvT and disregarding the current generation of ZvT as inferior due to the metagame..? Do you realize who Leenock is? Guy's been legit ever since open season 3. In fact, around this time last year I would have said he was by far the best ZvT considering he rolled MLG (along with MMA and MVP) and then proceeded to beat MVP again in a bo5 when he was at his best and where he was strongest in the gsl. Even to this day, I'd say Leenock retains the title of perhaps the best muta/ling/bling user, or at the very least the best at using burrow. tl;dr: Leenock is boss with or without any queen buff. with our without queen, with or without queeheheen
sry, had to do it
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Well shit, Leenock's just a motherfucking beast. If he hadn't of derped against Life so hard in that MLG finals I'd say he was unbeatable.
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On November 09 2012 22:53 TeeTS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2012 22:16 Darkthorn wrote:On November 09 2012 22:10 TeeTS wrote:On November 09 2012 22:06 NightOfTheDead wrote:On November 09 2012 21:56 Salteador Neo wrote:On November 09 2012 21:52 NightOfTheDead wrote:On November 09 2012 21:51 Waxangel wrote: Zerg 17 - 3 in last 20 GSL/GSTL games :D Well, Leenock =/= zerg. I thought that was Life? Damn so many new zerg bonjwas suddenly lol Season 2 - TvP final. Season 3 - PvP final Season 4 - TvZ final. Nothing changed balance wise. Must be metagame/skill. except this little queen/overlord buff I guess  the buff came before the season that drg won so ... totally wrong. The buff came after every zerg was eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S in season 2.  But nice try! EDIT: and here's your proof http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Patch_1.4.3#Balance_Update And he won against 2 Protoss players going for his title. And his games against GuMiho were actually really good and interesting. Completely different from 90% ZvX we have for last 3 months.
I don't really get the whine about Life. He's either clueless or just a troll.
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Prime should have started with MKP and saved Creator for last. I think Creator had better chances to beat Leenock, but this way he got sniped...
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On November 09 2012 22:40 DidYuhim wrote: Leenock is overhyped. Best MLG player? What kind of joke is that?
It's a pity that this season's teamleague is defined by the number of zerg players in roster. Let's hope blizzard will actually react to this.
He is the player with the most MLG prizemoney so you could say he's the best MLG player.
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Sad that Prime had to go, but they came down under Leenock so it's understandable. Maybe we will see another FXO.Kr finals and the first (?) back-to-back GSTL champion?
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On November 09 2012 23:07 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2012 22:53 TeeTS wrote:On November 09 2012 22:16 Darkthorn wrote:On November 09 2012 22:10 TeeTS wrote:On November 09 2012 22:06 NightOfTheDead wrote:On November 09 2012 21:56 Salteador Neo wrote:On November 09 2012 21:52 NightOfTheDead wrote:On November 09 2012 21:51 Waxangel wrote: Zerg 17 - 3 in last 20 GSL/GSTL games :D Well, Leenock =/= zerg. I thought that was Life? Damn so many new zerg bonjwas suddenly lol Season 2 - TvP final. Season 3 - PvP final Season 4 - TvZ final. Nothing changed balance wise. Must be metagame/skill. except this little queen/overlord buff I guess  the buff came before the season that drg won so ... totally wrong. The buff came after every zerg was eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S in season 2.  But nice try! EDIT: and here's your proof http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Patch_1.4.3#Balance_Update And he won against 2 Protoss players going for his title. And his games against GuMiho were actually really good and interesting. Completely different from 90% ZvX we have for last 3 months. I don't really get the whine about Life. He's either clueless or just a troll.
what do you want from me? I just corrected some wrong statements in that thread. I'm not saying that Leenock or Life are bad players and only winning due to balance changes. But you'll have to admit that Terrans never did well against Zerg after the patch. Terran went from doing terrible to doing ok with an equalisation of winrates to do terrible again right now. In the first months after it, a couple of new builds were brought into the new situation and they brought some wins with them because zerg took some time to adjust to them. But after that adjustment phase everything is looking horrible again and we'll have to wait for the next wave of innovation I guess.
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On November 09 2012 23:28 RiceAgainst wrote: Sad that Prime had to go, but they came down under Leenock so it's understandable. Maybe we will see another FXO.Kr finals and the first (?) back-to-back GSTL champion? Slayers won back to back I believe Slayers > IM GSTL 2 Slayers > MVP GSTL 3
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Well Prime went out with two 4-5 where they were up 4-3 and 4-1 and then lost to the Zerg ace of the opposing team (Symbol and Leenock). They have too few vZ players in their rooster and that's what backfiring hard atm. They try to fix it with the new players Lucy and Ter(r?)a. We'll see how they develope. Prime is in good shape overall, they just have a problem in beating very high end zergs and yeah, that's the problem kinda everyone has. The other teams go for a zvz in that scenario between the zerg aces.
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Disappointed I missed this series. It looks like a crazy one,
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Leenock went beast mode O_O
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On November 10 2012 02:00 Dodgin wrote: Leenock went beast mode O_O
Can't believe I missed it, I should have told my date I had more important things to do
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Gumiho vs Creator was the best TvP I've seen in a very long time! Hopefully this style sticks around for the rest of WoL
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