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On November 08 2012 19:32 Glurkenspurk wrote: 2 players maxing on 3 base, game basically ends after one engagement.
What a shitty game.
then what are you doing here.
Simple solution, stop watching.
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Since when do vampires go "Bleeeh!" when they see you?
Tasteless on point with the random noises once again :D
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United States97274 Posts
GSL S5 Code S Group H Match 2  Vampire vs  Ryung Game 3 Map: Cloud Kingdom 0:00
Vampire spawns in the top right
Ryung spawns in the bottom left
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On November 08 2012 19:35 nunez wrote: put a sock in it serelitz, so tired of infestears.
even though the games has been kinda rough, i think ryung is amped. he just needs to warm up.
"Put a sock in it" now there's a saying you don't hear to often anymore.
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Sea and ForGG don't even feel like watching today's GSL.
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On November 08 2012 19:36 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 19:32 Glurkenspurk wrote: 2 players maxing on 3 base, game basically ends after one engagement.
What a shitty game. then what are you doing here. Simple solution, stop watching. He was probably hoping for a good game and then voicing his disappointment when it wasn't?
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On November 08 2012 19:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:ro32 has been relatively disappointing imo. might be the fast turn around into this season?
That and the map pool/meta game, lots of players seem a bit lost and are doing weird things that don't make a lot of sense imo.
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On November 08 2012 19:34 Jehct wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 19:31 nunez wrote:On November 08 2012 19:18 Jehct wrote:On November 08 2012 19:16 nunez wrote:On November 08 2012 19:15 Fjodorov wrote: why is vampire winning? ye, what the hell? He moved out at the weird timing to take some map presence/punish Ryung if he'd over-expanded; the fact that Ryung could take that initial fight meant he couldn't stop the subsequent timing that Vampire was really committing to. The maps structure of the nat/third is incredibly colossus friendly, so once Vampire got that position Ryung needed a miracle to come back, which he just didn't get. Vampire's play really being underrated there. He had an incredibly specific build (+2 weap +3 armor 4 coloss/archon timing, no storm/fourth transition) that he understood and executed about as well as he had to. Ryung just didn't read it/react in time. i don't agree that ryung 'couldn't stop subsequent timing' because he had invested too much in that midgame army (i'm assuming this is what you mean), that is too hard to say i think, but the map structure on the third really fucked ryung over, or his positioning on it at least. The way to deal with pushes like that is to engage before they get into their ideal position. I was saying that because of the midgame army investment there was no way he could do that (not enough vikings/ghosts to engage 4 upgraded colossi + archons).
hm ye, i definitely agree with that. i think it was extra hard because he had a misrally on the starport (and barracks) for a good while in the midgame.
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Norway10161 Posts
On November 08 2012 19:36 Pwnzer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 19:35 nunez wrote: put a sock in it serelitz, so tired of infestears.
even though the games has been kinda rough, i think ryung is amped. he just needs to warm up. "Put a sock in it" now there's a saying you don't hear to often anymore.
I was just thinking the same. It's a nice saying
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On November 08 2012 19:36 andaylin wrote: Sea and ForGG don't even feel like watching today's GSL.
With Life not herassing on Ladder, they have the time of there lives.
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Blink all in. Or Rain's DT build.
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Beer at the movies!
Amazing.
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On November 08 2012 19:37 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 19:36 Pwnzer wrote:On November 08 2012 19:35 nunez wrote: put a sock in it serelitz, so tired of infestears.
even though the games has been kinda rough, i think ryung is amped. he just needs to warm up. "Put a sock in it" now there's a saying you don't hear to often anymore. I was just thinking the same. It's a nice saying 
I like "come up roses". Everything about it is pleasant.
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On November 08 2012 19:37 Jehct wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 19:36 Lysanias wrote:On November 08 2012 19:32 Glurkenspurk wrote: 2 players maxing on 3 base, game basically ends after one engagement.
What a shitty game. then what are you doing here. Simple solution, stop watching. He was probably hoping for a good game and then voicing his disappointment when it wasn't?
If you think the game is shit just stop watching ? How hard can it be i see no reason why you need to explain for some one else.
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On November 08 2012 19:35 Serelitz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 19:34 Jehct wrote:On November 08 2012 19:31 nunez wrote:On November 08 2012 19:18 Jehct wrote:On November 08 2012 19:16 nunez wrote:On November 08 2012 19:15 Fjodorov wrote: why is vampire winning? ye, what the hell? He moved out at the weird timing to take some map presence/punish Ryung if he'd over-expanded; the fact that Ryung could take that initial fight meant he couldn't stop the subsequent timing that Vampire was really committing to. The maps structure of the nat/third is incredibly colossus friendly, so once Vampire got that position Ryung needed a miracle to come back, which he just didn't get. Vampire's play really being underrated there. He had an incredibly specific build (+2 weap +3 armor 4 coloss/archon timing, no storm/fourth transition) that he understood and executed about as well as he had to. Ryung just didn't read it/react in time. i don't agree that ryung 'couldn't stop subsequent timing' because he had invested too much in that midgame army (i'm assuming this is what you mean), that is too hard to say i think, but the map structure on the third really fucked ryung over, or his positioning on it at least. The way to deal with pushes like that is to engage before they get into their ideal position. I was saying that because of the midgame army investment there was no way he could do that (not enough vikings/ghosts to engage 4 upgraded colossi + archons). Vampire's constant trading [in game 1] was also not a bad idea when your opponent keeps sacrificing SCVs while you're in his face.
Due to the warpgate mechanicsm, trading late game is absolutely fantastic for protoss. Terran simply needs to be cost effective in battle against protoss, and to do that they need the "correct" amount of vikings + ghosts + medis, and Ryung didn't have that last game.
Besides, I think Ryung gets too few medis and this might be his biggest weakness's. The attack--> retreat, style is way too efficient against Ryungs composition, and I think he will probably lose the 3rd game unless something weird happens.
Wow, vampire is actually pretty damn awfull.
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Just end this fast, both of them have played terrible tt
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United Kingdom38149 Posts
On November 08 2012 19:38 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 19:37 Jehct wrote:On November 08 2012 19:36 Lysanias wrote:On November 08 2012 19:32 Glurkenspurk wrote: 2 players maxing on 3 base, game basically ends after one engagement.
What a shitty game. then what are you doing here. Simple solution, stop watching. He was probably hoping for a good game and then voicing his disappointment when it wasn't? If you think the game is shit just stop watching ? How hard can it be i see no reason why you need to explain for some one else.
I keep watching =(
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On November 08 2012 19:38 Blaec wrote: Beer at the movies!
Amazing.
what's so special about that?
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Sorry 'bout the delay.
Poll: Do you recommend watching Vampire vs Ryung game two?Nope (3) 50% If you got some time to spare (2) 33% Yup (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Do you recommend watching Vampire vs Ryung game two? (Vote): Yup (Vote): Nope (Vote): If you got some time to spare
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On November 08 2012 19:37 Laryleprakon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 19:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:On November 08 2012 19:34 opterown wrote: somewhat disappointing day so far ro32 has been relatively disappointing imo. might be the fast turn around into this season? That and the map pool/meta game, lots of players seem a bit lost and are doing weird things that don't make a lot of sense imo.
Have those Reactor Hellion/Cloakshee openings ever worked in TvP? I've seen them done a few times now but never succesfully.
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