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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 13:30:59
November 04 2012 13:30 GMT
#161
Anyone know if they're going to start in the lower part of the championship bracket or when they're going to show the Flash-LIfe Leenock-Bomber games.
Coffin
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany229 Posts
November 04 2012 13:34 GMT
#162
On November 04 2012 22:30 Pandain wrote:
Anyone know if they're going to start in the lower part of the championship bracket or when they're going to show the Flash-LIfe Leenock-Bomber games.

german page readmore shows violet vs polt for 17:00 CET and Bomber vs Leenock / Flash vs Life for 18:00 CET for what its worth.
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
November 04 2012 13:36 GMT
#163
Does anyone know the exact time of Flash vs Life?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
November 04 2012 13:38 GMT
#164
On November 04 2012 22:23 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 22:02 neptunusfisk wrote:
On November 04 2012 21:58 Xoronius wrote:
On November 04 2012 21:39 justinpal wrote:
On November 04 2012 21:35 Inzan1ty wrote:
On November 04 2012 21:26 purgerinho wrote:
i just woke up and i'm looking the brackets from last night.. only naniwa from non koreans is somewhere.. things change so much, no more foreigners on tours, except stephano and naniwa.. others just can't compete with koreans anymore.. i hope that i'm wrong


Nerchio is quite good, yo
edit

and Mana just won ESWC over ForGG


Yes, but Mana would have been lucky to break into the Top 32 at this tournament, imho.


So MaNa can´t do smth. Suppy/Gowser or Daisy for example could? Thats a really intersting statement, which I strongly disagree with. Tbh. if he can beat Spehano, he can beat every zerg in the wolrd except maybe Life ( not saying he is favored against others, but they are in his range) and that is his worst MU. Hwangsin and daisy made it into the money and, no offense to them, but they are not really comparable to MaNa.


Mana is quite bad actually. I'm maybe not being fair, but whenever I see Mana play I get the feeling that he does clutch things and wins over players with much better mechanics because they weren't prepared. I mean, look at that Dreamhack he won, and those GSL matches that he was utterly demolished in.


In his first GSL matches he defeated Keen and Hyun and after that he just got a really hard group. The loss vs. asd was not so good ofc., but in the end that was just one bo3. If you think, he is a bad player, pls watch his replays against Sage at DH for example. Ofc. Sage is no top-tier-opponent, but the level of play, MaNa showed there was just incredible. He is very inconsitent, so you may watched him on a bad day, but tthe guy has 8 premier tournament medals now, being no.8 in the world in that statistic (no. 2 of foreigners), with only MVP, MMA, MC, Stephano, Nestea, DRG and MKP in front of him, so he can´t be bad.


Well, I didn't mean he doesn't win, I just mean that he feels so sloppy to watch. Whenever he manages to beat someone, it's in my experience probably because of some clutch choice of build order. He's been improving lately though.
maru G5L pls
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 04 2012 13:40 GMT
#165
Poll: Match 1 to show?

Rain v soO (18)
 
67%

Violet v Polt (9)
 
33%

Golden v Soulkey (0)
 
0%

Hwangsin v Daisy (0)
 
0%

27 total votes

Your vote: Match 1 to show?

(Vote): Rain v soO
(Vote): Golden v Soulkey
(Vote): Hwangsin v Daisy
(Vote): Violet v Polt




Poll: Match 2 to show?

Violet v Polt (11)
 
73%

Rain v soO (2)
 
13%

Golden v Soulkey (1)
 
7%

Hwangsin v Daisy (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: Match 2 to show?

(Vote): Rain v soO
(Vote): Golden v Soulkey
(Vote): Hwangsin v Daisy
(Vote): Violet v Polt


sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 04 2012 13:41 GMT
#166
On November 04 2012 22:25 SiroKO wrote:
I don't want too sound to negative, but Flash bet a bunch of relative nobody,
Hwangsin, theSTC, Naniwa ?
I think the group was rigged.


Rigged? Are you kidding? Nothing about MLG groups are random, all seedings are based on results. Yes, it was an easier group compared to others but that's all. He was in that group, because of his MvP tournament result by the way. If he had placed 1st or 2nd in that tournament, he would have been in group C or D.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 04 2012 13:42 GMT
#167
I went to bed before day 2 is over, but I assume Polt still hasn't had any of his games shown.

YOU BETTER FUCKING SHOW POLT, MLG.
jaxjaguars
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States113 Posts
November 04 2012 13:42 GMT
#168
Life vs. Flash is going to be awesome, hope I am back in time to see it.
GoOdy | Life | EG | Team 8 | ESC
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 04 2012 13:43 GMT
#169
On November 04 2012 22:41 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 22:25 SiroKO wrote:
I don't want too sound to negative, but Flash bet a bunch of relative nobody,
Hwangsin, theSTC, Naniwa ?
I think the group was rigged.


Rigged? Are you kidding? Nothing about MLG groups are random, all seedings are based on results. Yes, it was an easier group compared to others but that's all. He was in that group, because of his MvP tournament result by the way. If he had placed 1st or 2nd in that tournament, he would have been in group C or D.


Yup. Plus that group got the 'weaker' players from the open bracket but those are based on points as well.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
November 04 2012 13:43 GMT
#170
On November 04 2012 21:26 purgerinho wrote:
i just woke up and i'm looking the brackets from last night.. only naniwa from non koreans is somewhere.. things change so much, no more foreigners on tours, except stephano and naniwa.. others just can't compete with koreans anymore.. i hope that i'm wrong


That's not really true. There were plenty of non-korean wins against koreans. Moonglade beat MC and revival, suppy beat revival and jookto, scarlett beat bomber and hero, idra beat apocalypse, Ret beat ganzi. And there were plenty of 2-1 series, including a number of non-koreans that don't normally take podium places, such as Sheth taking a game off OSL champion rain, goswer taking a game off polt, or caliber taking a game off golden.

You also have to recognize that this isn't a "only 6 koreans, top 6 are koreans" scenario. There were a whopping 26 koreans attending this tournament, including an OSL champion (rain), the MLG MvP champion (soo), GSL Champions (MC, Life, and Polt), MLG Champions (Leenock, Taeja) and Dreamhack Champion (Hero). So there's very strong korean representation. Those 26 koreans are out of a total of 71 "notable" signups according to Liquipedia, which is over a third of the player pool. However, it's also important to note that a large majority of the non-Korean "notables" are SEA and NA players. Now, don't get me wrong, I love SEA and NA players, but they're not as strong overall as the Europeans (the reason why being a whole different story, I may write up on that later). The Europeans/stronger non-koreans in terms of record preceding are perhaps half the number of koreans in attendance.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
scr
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1025 Posts
November 04 2012 13:44 GMT
#171
still going with the life vs leenock finals. missed last day, so im hyyyyped already
Try again, fail better.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 13:45:59
November 04 2012 13:45 GMT
#172
I would like to know how Bomber won 2 - 0 vs soO. Im very happy for Bomber, hope he can do well today.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
November 04 2012 13:46 GMT
#173
Flash vs Nani finals.

gogo
maru G5L pls
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 04 2012 13:46 GMT
#174
Missed all of Day 1 and 2, so I am hoping that "This week in StarCraft" for next week will show me what I should be watching.

Today, I watch it all!
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
November 04 2012 13:48 GMT
#175
Somebody tell me the exact time of Life vs Flash T_T

Or maybe MLG haven't released the schedule?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
November 04 2012 13:48 GMT
#176
Does Flash realistically have a chance against Life?
Desertfaux
Profile Joined June 2012
Netherlands276 Posts
November 04 2012 13:49 GMT
#177
It saddens me I didn't get to watch any games but Flash vs Grubby on day1 and Taeja vs Life and a Rain match on day 2. Beyond that I was either asleep (late start day 1) or I didn't care for the players. I'm definately not going to buy any premium since all I'll get (if i'm lucky!) is another spare few games.

Are there going to be replays available for premiums or will I never have a shot to watch some specific games which weren't aired? You know, kind of like that Socke vs DRG match all over again?
Rogue Deck
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 04 2012 13:50 GMT
#178
On November 04 2012 22:38 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 22:23 Xoronius wrote:
On November 04 2012 22:02 neptunusfisk wrote:
On November 04 2012 21:58 Xoronius wrote:
On November 04 2012 21:39 justinpal wrote:
On November 04 2012 21:35 Inzan1ty wrote:
On November 04 2012 21:26 purgerinho wrote:
i just woke up and i'm looking the brackets from last night.. only naniwa from non koreans is somewhere.. things change so much, no more foreigners on tours, except stephano and naniwa.. others just can't compete with koreans anymore.. i hope that i'm wrong


Nerchio is quite good, yo
edit

and Mana just won ESWC over ForGG


Yes, but Mana would have been lucky to break into the Top 32 at this tournament, imho.


So MaNa can´t do smth. Suppy/Gowser or Daisy for example could? Thats a really intersting statement, which I strongly disagree with. Tbh. if he can beat Spehano, he can beat every zerg in the wolrd except maybe Life ( not saying he is favored against others, but they are in his range) and that is his worst MU. Hwangsin and daisy made it into the money and, no offense to them, but they are not really comparable to MaNa.


Mana is quite bad actually. I'm maybe not being fair, but whenever I see Mana play I get the feeling that he does clutch things and wins over players with much better mechanics because they weren't prepared. I mean, look at that Dreamhack he won, and those GSL matches that he was utterly demolished in.


In his first GSL matches he defeated Keen and Hyun and after that he just got a really hard group. The loss vs. asd was not so good ofc., but in the end that was just one bo3. If you think, he is a bad player, pls watch his replays against Sage at DH for example. Ofc. Sage is no top-tier-opponent, but the level of play, MaNa showed there was just incredible. He is very inconsitent, so you may watched him on a bad day, but tthe guy has 8 premier tournament medals now, being no.8 in the world in that statistic (no. 2 of foreigners), with only MVP, MMA, MC, Stephano, Nestea, DRG and MKP in front of him, so he can´t be bad.


Well, I didn't mean he doesn't win, I just mean that he feels so sloppy to watch. Whenever he manages to beat someone, it's in my experience probably because of some clutch choice of build order. He's been improving lately though.


Well maybe I am just a bit of a fanboy, but I can´t say the same. Ofc. he has no DRG-mechanics, but his micro on good days can be wolrd class and he has defeated top-tir opponents in long macro games as well.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 04 2012 13:50 GMT
#179
Btw if you have access to vods and missed yesterdays games, i would recommend Naniwa vs Flash on ohana in the groupfinal series. The best game from yesterday if you ask me. Non stop action for 20 min or so, so intense.
badboybC
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany53 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 13:53:55
November 04 2012 13:51 GMT
#180
Any Re-Streming?

Edit: http://www.own3d.tv/MLG/
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