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On November 04 2012 21:26 purgerinho wrote:
i just woke up and i'm looking the brackets from last night.. only naniwa from non koreans is somewhere.. things change so much, no more foreigners on tours, except stephano and naniwa.. others just can't compete with koreans anymore.. i hope that i'm wrong
Nerchio is quite good, yo
edit
and Mana just won ESWC over ForGG
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On November 04 2012 21:35 Inzan1ty wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:26 purgerinho wrote:
i just woke up and i'm looking the brackets from last night.. only naniwa from non koreans is somewhere.. things change so much, no more foreigners on tours, except stephano and naniwa.. others just can't compete with koreans anymore.. i hope that i'm wrong Nerchio is quite good, yo edit and Mana just won ESWC over ForGG
Yes, but Mana would have been lucky to break into the Top 32 at this tournament, imho.
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Damn, naniwa has to either face winner of OSL, or winner of MLG vs kespa tournament  Other 6 players he could have faced dont seem scary at all:p
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On November 04 2012 20:38 sinigang wrote:
So if Flash beats Life, Flash > MVP? hrmm
And since Taeja won MVP, Taeja should > Life
That's the beauty of stupid lineal logic champions. It never fucking works
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On November 04 2012 21:44 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 20:38 sinigang wrote:
So if Flash beats Life, Flash > MVP? hrmm And since Taeja won MVP, Taeja should > Life That's the beauty of stupid lineal logic champions. It never fucking works
It would mean that Flash has equal or better TvZ then MVP at least . Though the tournaments and the preparation time for them are different .
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On November 04 2012 21:21 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Just saw Naniwa's interview with Rachel, and it reminded me about his last MLG victory two years ago in Dallas...makes his run even more epic and exciting. GO NANIWA!!!!!
link please?
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On November 04 2012 21:35 Inzan1ty wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:26 purgerinho wrote:
i just woke up and i'm looking the brackets from last night.. only naniwa from non koreans is somewhere.. things change so much, no more foreigners on tours, except stephano and naniwa.. others just can't compete with koreans anymore.. i hope that i'm wrong Nerchio is quite good, yo edit and Mana just won ESWC over ForGG
Thorzain made it to groups and he isn't in top form. He hasn't been practicing as much. I have no doubt that Mana could have done it.
If you folks were to look at the first MLG with Koreans, it was 1/6 foreigners, 5/6 koreans. Nothing really changed, and Naniwa still has a shot to win this. I wouldn't write everyone off, there were some close games between foreigners and Koreans.
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Players are different and struggle with different things raga4ka. That's mostly why Violet gives troubles to MVP, while Taeja is on a good record against Violet. While Taeja really struggles against Life on live events, and MVP performs way better.
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On November 04 2012 21:47 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:44 Godwrath wrote:On November 04 2012 20:38 sinigang wrote:
So if Flash beats Life, Flash > MVP? hrmm And since Taeja won MVP, Taeja should > Life That's the beauty of stupid lineal logic champions. It never fucking works It would mean that Flash has equal or better TvZ then MVP at least . Though the tournaments and the preparation time for them are different .
No it would not equal that Flash has equal or better TvZ. That is still stupid lineal logic ._.
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On November 04 2012 21:26 mprs wrote:
I'll be super content with a Taeja/Naniwa/Flash victory. Probably in the following order
1) Naniwa
2) Taeja
3) Flash
Flash will get his turn eventually. Now isn't the time.
Taeja is slumping/turned bad and Flash already beat Nani. Just saying.
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On November 04 2012 21:39 justinpal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:35 Inzan1ty wrote:On November 04 2012 21:26 purgerinho wrote:
i just woke up and i'm looking the brackets from last night.. only naniwa from non koreans is somewhere.. things change so much, no more foreigners on tours, except stephano and naniwa.. others just can't compete with koreans anymore.. i hope that i'm wrong Nerchio is quite good, yo edit and Mana just won ESWC over ForGG Yes, but Mana would have been lucky to break into the Top 32 at this tournament, imho.
So MaNa can´t do smth. Suppy/Gowser or Daisy for example could? Thats a really intersting statement, which I strongly disagree with. Tbh. if he can beat Spehano, he can beat every zerg in the wolrd except maybe Life ( not saying he is favored against others, but they are in his range) and that is his worst MU. Hwangsin and daisy made it into the money and, no offense to them, but they are not really comparable to MaNa.
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Yeah, nothing has changed. Foreigners have always been nearly non-existent in MLGs.
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I just woke up hoping to see Oz vs. Leenock restream and there isn't any? :/.
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I thought I ask before this thread turns into a chat:
Is there a way to find out the intermission song titles?
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Life or Leenock to take it all.
Bomber for the upset.
Flash for the honestly quite shocking result.
Oz and/or Rain for the "just-because-i-went-to-losers-doesn't-mean-i'm-out-of-this-yet".
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On November 04 2012 21:39 justinpal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:35 Inzan1ty wrote:On November 04 2012 21:26 purgerinho wrote:
i just woke up and i'm looking the brackets from last night.. only naniwa from non koreans is somewhere.. things change so much, no more foreigners on tours, except stephano and naniwa.. others just can't compete with koreans anymore.. i hope that i'm wrong Nerchio is quite good, yo edit and Mana just won ESWC over ForGG Yes, but Mana would have been lucky to break into the Top 32 at this tournament, imho.
besides he was smart enough to attend the easier tournament and got rewarded for it with 22.000 $, I do think MaNa could have beaten some Koreans.
Look at Oz, no one expected him to beat Polt and Leenock, and Oz isnt much more consistent than MaNa
Both are on fire when in form though
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On November 04 2012 21:58 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:39 justinpal wrote:On November 04 2012 21:35 Inzan1ty wrote:On November 04 2012 21:26 purgerinho wrote:
i just woke up and i'm looking the brackets from last night.. only naniwa from non koreans is somewhere.. things change so much, no more foreigners on tours, except stephano and naniwa.. others just can't compete with koreans anymore.. i hope that i'm wrong Nerchio is quite good, yo edit and Mana just won ESWC over ForGG Yes, but Mana would have been lucky to break into the Top 32 at this tournament, imho. So MaNa can´t do smth. Suppy/Gowser or Daisy for example could? Thats a really intersting statement, which I strongly disagree with. Tbh. if he can beat Spehano, he can beat every zerg in the wolrd except maybe Life ( not saying he is favored against others, but they are in his range) and that is his worst MU. Hwangsin and daisy made it into the money and, no offense to them, but they are not really comparable to MaNa.
Mana is quite bad actually. I'm maybe not being fair, but whenever I see Mana play I get the feeling that he does clutch things and wins over players with much better mechanics because they weren't prepared. I mean, look at that Dreamhack he won, and those GSL matches that he was utterly demolished in.
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On November 04 2012 22:02 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:58 Xoronius wrote:On November 04 2012 21:39 justinpal wrote:On November 04 2012 21:35 Inzan1ty wrote:On November 04 2012 21:26 purgerinho wrote:
i just woke up and i'm looking the brackets from last night.. only naniwa from non koreans is somewhere.. things change so much, no more foreigners on tours, except stephano and naniwa.. others just can't compete with koreans anymore.. i hope that i'm wrong Nerchio is quite good, yo edit and Mana just won ESWC over ForGG Yes, but Mana would have been lucky to break into the Top 32 at this tournament, imho. So MaNa can´t do smth. Suppy/Gowser or Daisy for example could? Thats a really intersting statement, which I strongly disagree with. Tbh. if he can beat Spehano, he can beat every zerg in the wolrd except maybe Life ( not saying he is favored against others, but they are in his range) and that is his worst MU. Hwangsin and daisy made it into the money and, no offense to them, but they are not really comparable to MaNa. Mana is quite bad actually. I'm maybe not being fair, but whenever I see Mana play I get the feeling that he does clutch things and wins over players with much better mechanics because they weren't prepared. I mean, look at that Dreamhack he won, and those GSL up/downs that he was utterly demolished in.
he advanced in the up/downs but lost in code s to mma and taeja, not an embarrassment haha
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On November 04 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:
he advanced in the up/downs but lost in code s to mma and taeja, not an embarrassment haha
My bad, he did barely get through, but lost so hard in the first group stage.
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Life just too good. Don't see anyone left that can stop him. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't drop a map at all today
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