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Northern Ireland27463 Posts
On November 05 2012 07:59 GhostKorean wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 07:58 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 05 2012 07:56 Bippzy wrote:On November 05 2012 07:48 Prog455 wrote:On November 05 2012 07:44 Wombat_NI wrote:
I hate to repost, but was wondering if anybody saw Mech working successfully this weekend? Having a discussion with some friends about it in Skype. I only saw Major and Flash lose to Life with it, and Bomber losing to Leenock, did anybody have success?
Considering people have been saying it's 'the future' once it's worked out, would love to know. I believe that Flash used Mech against another Terran, TheStc i think, and he pretty much teared him apart. I wanna comment on this: A. I do think mech is the future of zvt i. It encourages roaches, which become less valued over time ii.It allows the terran to have a superior ground army, and a superior army that controls space until BLs B. Mech was used wrong at GSL finals and MLG dallas i. MVP was using mech right during GSL finals, games he lost were due to greedy expos getting denied, or him not splitting his vikings or not getting them fast enough. ii.At MLG Dallas, all mech I've seen has been moderately controlled(ie hellions as meatshields for roaches instead of fighting lings. iii. Flash has shown smart play with mech when he goes for a economy cripple move right before BLs come out, but he was unsuccessful because a. He didn't start making vikings when his mech army moved out. b. His bases were not locked down tightly enough and were vulnerable to counter attack c. Flash didn't freakin target bases(which was the point of his attack) once BLs were out and still sieged tanks -_-. I see mech's potential, and I see how terrans are failing. Perhaps it is the future, but I haven't seen it work, at all this tournament. Maybe still needs refined, but literally haven't seen it work once in TvZ for the entirety of the weekend. Maybe we'll see bio into mech tech switches like in brood war?
I just don't see it, I mean Bio needs to stay pretty handy on the upgrades and needs medivacs which will hog gas. So at least one engi bay, probably 2 armories to keep mech upgrades ticking over, plus additional air upgrades?
Plus any techswitch that Terran can pull, Zerg can pull it faster. I'd love it if Terrans could work out a way to make this happen actually, but it just seems a tall order.
I jjust genuinely don't think Mech is all that good because it puts all your eggs in one basket, and if you screw up your composition and get wiped there is no chance of recovery. The balance between hellion/siege tank/thor is pretty critical, and really easy to get wrong.
Would like to be proven wrong, if it became a really viable and solid, dependable style. Don't want it to become a go-to style though as, to be honest aside from the novelty it's pretty boring to watch sometimes, for me anyway.
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Go Life! 
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On November 05 2012 07:59 Angry.Zerg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 07:56 Gijian wrote:On November 05 2012 07:55 Angry.Zerg wrote:
ZvZ is the most mechanical demanding and micro intensive match-up of all.
Plus... it's the MLG + ChinaTournamentIDontKnowItsName vs the GSL Champion.
It's going to be awesome! Mechanically demanding and micro intensive doesn't mean entertaining for the viewers. It's entertaining for me and I'm a viewer :D Terran logic, terran logic everywhere!!!
PvP is plenty micro-intensive and technical too. That doesn't mean it's not terrible.
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On November 05 2012 08:02 tuoli9 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 07:59 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On November 05 2012 07:58 pprrii wrote:Marc-Olivier desRow Proulx
Wow so im hearing this story.. Hwansing didn't have hotel room.. so Daisy shared his hotel room with him. Hwansin and daisy play in championship bracket but daisy is late 20mins hwansin ask for free win daisy comes and say please 1-0 you lead i want to play. hwansin say no i want free win this is 2nd hand information but if this is true this is sc2 korean backstabbing at its finess
Wtf if this true... http://www.facebook.com/desRowfighting/posts/452688991435608 Just one week without drama... please guys? just one? That would be nice now, wouldn't it. Man can dream...
These kids cannot live without drama.
Drama queens.
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the 2 young zerg prodigys
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comeon startale curse come back out !
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On November 05 2012 08:01 Zebb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 08:00 TheFish7 wrote:On November 05 2012 07:59 oogieogie wrote:On November 05 2012 07:47 EtherealDeath wrote:
Hmm so Life has to win two Bo3 in a row now to win the championship. As much as I'd like to see him double royal road, I think Leenock is going to win this. man i hate this for the finals...should just be one BO5/7 instead because leenock being able to win in one Bo3 for a GRAND FUCKING FINALS is pretty stupid. Didn't Day 9 say its just a simple Bo7?? Yes, EtherealDeath and oogieogie don't know the format
I figured what ethereal was saying was right, but i guess i shouldn't expect that for a lr.
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On November 05 2012 07:59 gTank wrote:
He partly was but still -> one smart cast to immobilize 10+ units if the terran doesn't pay attention for one second is so ridiculous.
Back then, snipe from ghosts took way more APM and skill to use than this crap and still got nerfed to shit.
I don't want to take anything away from Life at all, but it is simply boring to watch and I am sure it will get worse in HOTS.
Like fuck it did, you just spammed R click and there was literally not a single zerg composition that could be cost effcient against ghostmech
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The TvZ series have gotten me extremely pumped and hyped all to end in ZvZ. Life is cruel (pun intended).
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Northern Ireland27463 Posts
On November 05 2012 08:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 07:56 Diavlo wrote:
The amount of whining is incredible....
In the pool and championship bracket, TvZ was 26-25 with 11 series won by zergs and 11 by terrans.
The infamy
How did foreigners and Protosses do? Meh. We suck. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8tHmX.jpg)
Don't be too disheartened, Rain just ran into Bomber in Bomber mode, before he later imploded. 
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On November 05 2012 07:54 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 07:53 Al Bundy wrote:
Wow so many people not bothering wtachign the finals.... you guys are killing esports. ZvZ is one of the most technical and intense matchups, not to mention this is the fucking MLG dallas finals.
Also why do people keep whining about infestors and whatnot? Do you think Blizzard reads LR threads? I better not fucking catch these same people complaining that League of Legends has more viewers or saying " sc2 is dying "
It's a good time to go to sleep for a lot of europeans. That could explain the viewer drop.
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On November 05 2012 08:03 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 08:00 Merfyn wrote:
To get 3rd/4th places
Flash:
Grubby 2-0
theStC 2-0
Naniwa(1st game) 1-2
Hwangsin 2-1
Naniwa(re-game) 2-1
Life(1st game) 2-0
Life(re-game) 0-4
Total: 11-6 (65% win ratio)
TvP: 7-4 (64% win ratio)
TvZ: 2-4 (33% win ratio)
TvT 2-0 (100% win ratio...lol)
Bomber:
Scarlett 1-2
Thorzain 2-0
Daisey 2-1
soO 2-0
Golden 2-0
Heart 4-2
Rain 2-0
Leenock (1st game) 0-2
Leenock (re-game) 1-2
Total: 15-9 (63% win ratio)
TvP: 4-1 (80% win ratio)
TvZ 6-6 (50% win ratio)
TvT 6-2 (75% win ratio) Flash vs Life regame was 0-4 not 0-2
Thank you :D Sorry im terrible at this 
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On November 05 2012 08:04 FeyFey wrote:
comeon startale curse come back out !
Life's originally from ZeNEX, yo. ;O
KongTale curse doesn't affect him. Though Fionn's does, a little bit.
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HWANNI! i love you but i can't hear you :/
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The battle of the 15-16 year olds.
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To get 3rd/4th places
Flash:
Grubby 2-0
theStC 2-0
Naniwa(1st game) 1-2
Hwangsin 2-1
Naniwa(re-game) 2-1
Life(1st game) 2-0
Life(re-game) 0-4
Total: 11-6 (65% win ratio)
TvP: 7-4 (64% win ratio)
TvZ: 2-4 (33% win ratio)
TvT 2-0 (100% win ratio...lol)
Bomber:
Scarlett 1-2
Thorzain 2-0
Daisey 2-1
soO 2-0
Golden 2-0
Heart 4-2
Rain 2-0
Leenock (1st game) 0-2
Leenock (re-game) 1-2
Total: 15-9 (63% win ratio)
TvP: 4-1 (80% win ratio)
TvZ 6-6 (50% win ratio)
TvT 6-2 (75% win ratio)
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
little july vs little jaedong.
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On November 05 2012 08:04 R3DT1D3 wrote:
The TvZ series have gotten me extremely pumped and hyped all to end in ZvZ. Life is cruel (pun intended).
Considering these two guys have the ballsiest Zerg play. I'm going to enjoy it.
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