On November 12 2012 00:36 Guimsbla wrote:
Better giving ForGG, the Millenium player, 2 walkover in group play... Korean qualifier should be played in korea, that's common sense.

Who said it has to be Korean Server ? it's Asia Qualifier for Asian Players.

Again.

By the way the english streamer doesn't want to stream anymore ?

Sedall

France66 Posts

November 11 2012 16:02 GMT

#62

Ender is still streaming.

Mana had the same problem during the European qualifier, nonetheless no one highlighted this. Anyway you seems to stubborn to understand ...

covetousrat

2109 Posts

November 11 2012 16:16 GMT

#63

Lol FFE Seed in PvT ...

Poopi

France12939 Posts

November 11 2012 16:26 GMT

#64

From ForGG's point of view, so I don't have the exact buid orders of SeeD.

M.ForGG vs IMSeeD game 1 on shakuras plateau :
Both players open with 1rax FE/forge fast expand as it seems.
ForGG going for 3 rax + reactor starport while sending a little troop to check for the third.
Double medivac drop into the main + additional 2 raxes. Manage to snipe a cannon and 4 zealot/1HT but loses the drops to storm. Proceed to double drop again in the main, no loss and applies more pressure.

3 medivac drop going for the natural and 2 drops in the main while researching ghosts upgrade. The main force of ForGG encounters SeeD main army, they clash and ForGG escapes with 30% loss. SeeD is going for the counter attack into the natural of ForGG but ForGG is well prepared with 3 bunker and 2 ghosts, while dropping his 2 medivacs into the main of SeeD. SeeD can't break it through ForGG's defenses nor can he defend the 2 drops. SeeD ggs and ForGG takes game 1.

Otolia

France5805 Posts

November 11 2012 16:34 GMT

#65

Now if ForGG could avoid choke like in ESWC and DH Valencia !

Poopi

France12939 Posts

November 11 2012 16:35 GMT

#66

Game 2 on entombed valley :
Cross pos.
ForGG opens with 1 rax FE this time with the 2nd depot coming after the command center.
Standard 2 additional rax into 2 gas but SeeD seemed to opt for a double gas build this time around.
ForGG reacts by researching concussive shell first instead of stim or cs, plus he produces marauders and listens to Gangnam Style again.

He sends a little troop into the natural without going by the xelnaga. SeeD has expanded an d produced 1 immortal as of now for defense. ForGG researching stim/cs and adding 2 raxes again for 2base play, no ebay.

ForGG drops 2 dropships in the corner of SeeD's natural while attacking the front with his other troops. SeeD didn't forcefield his ramp in time and got overrun by ForGG's army. GG, ForGG wins the second game right as gangnam style finishes.

Poopi

France12939 Posts

November 11 2012 16:51 GMT

#67

Game 3 on ohana :
ForGG still goes for a 1 rax FE, but with the 2nd depot produced preemptively at 14 food to prevent SeeD from scouting, this time. ForGG makes his CC in his main.

SeeD seemingly expanded before putting down his cybernetics core. Takes his 2nd gas as scouted by ForGG's scv. ForGG reacts with a third command center in his main.

5mn30 ForGG adds 3 more raxes and takes double gas. He listens to gangnam style (his playlist is two songs or what?) but since it made him win it's okay. Adds another bunker in his natural when putting down his 2nd cc. Only marine production for now, one ebay started with the factory and both gases added in the natural.

9mn forgg sends hi third cc to his third location, produces double medivac and his addons are ready.

Finally take the xelnaga and scouts for SeeD's third. See no third. Barracks were added and his macro is starting to kick in. Produces vikings after seeing no third. Sees a colossus with a scan.
12mn seed attacks, forgg back in his natural loses his third cc and scv at the third. SeeD pokes but ForGG has a vikign fleet and a lot of MMM. SeeD snipes 2 or 3 vikings with blink stalkers.
14mn 20 forgg feels confident enough to go out, builds his third cc again at the third location.

ForGG go into attack mode, rally his stuff near SeeD bases. SeeD has storm ready and ForGG has no ghosts.
Little pokes into huge battle, ForGG had a huge MM ball but not enough medivacs. ForGG forced to retreat, both players lost quite a lot but ForGG seemed to have lost a bit more.

ForGG sends one drop into the main while attacking, drop shut down quickly and ForGG has 5 medivacs and MM vs some HTs, one colossus and gateway ball. SeeD seems to lose the battle but finally his main base troops arrive and forgg is forced back once again.
After 1 minute SeeD attacks with his tech units and it's too much for ForGG who is forced to gg.
2-1 forgg in the lead.

Otolia

France5805 Posts

November 11 2012 17:08 GMT

#68

ForGG professional choker.

Poopi

France12939 Posts

November 11 2012 17:09 GMT

#69

Game 4 on Cloud Kingdom :

SeeD ultra fast scout, ForGG is forced to help his building scv with another scv. He makes again his 2nd depot to trap SeeD's probe and goes for a fast CCthis time in his natural.
SeeD with fast expand right off 1gate, then double gas then cybernetic core as scouted by ForGG's scv. Nexus down before the 2nd CC of ForGG is done. ForGG with standard 3rax/double gas this time again.

Concussive first again for forgg, adds his fact at 6mn20, 3rd gas at 6mn40. Little troops going into SeeD's natural. Some units got trapped by FF. 5 rax again for ForGG off 2bases. No ebay. Sends two dropships into the main from the left side. Neither player does lose much stuff.
5 medivac almost full drop into the main for forgg while adding 2 ebays. Not cost effective once again, SeeD's defense is too good. However ForGG still has a good medivac count.

13 mn SeeD takes his third while ForGG upgrades his now built third cc into orbital command. 7-8 medivac and 1-1 complete for forgg, he attacks into the third of SeeD but retreats after seeing the colossus. ForGG tries dual front but once again SeeD is defending perfectly by splitting properly his army in two parts. The map makes it difficult for ForGG to attack and gangnam style still hasn't been played in this game, making it difficult for ForGG to win.
Dual front again, this time a little more effective since ForGG has a lot of medivacs and some vikings, but he can't kill SeeD and thus retreat. Builds ghosts but SeeD attacks with archon zealot colossus mix before forgg has any, however his massive medivac count allows him to defend despite this. SeeD added HT into hi mix and tried to attack again but ForGG now has ghosts and his ridiculously high medivac count allows him to force SeeD's back. Harass starting from SeeD but ForGG defends it well enough. Warp prism gunned down by vikings without doing any damage.

SeeD again going in but with a massive archon ball, one collossus and a shitton of zealot. The ball is too big for ForGG low ghost count and he is forced to gg.

2-2!

Boucot

France15997 Posts

November 11 2012 17:12 GMT

#70

Will Seed be the first Protoss to win a MSI Pro Cup ?

ibo422

Belgium2844 Posts

November 11 2012 17:17 GMT

#71

ForGG getting ForWG'd.. that's taldarim for you!

Otolia

France5805 Posts

November 11 2012 17:17 GMT

#72

Yep, ForGG pro-choker ! And Seed doing a 4Gate on Tal'darim ...

covetousrat

2109 Posts

November 11 2012 17:17 GMT

#73

Lol forggs cursed!! 2-0 to 2-3 ... Seed the comeback King!!

Boucot

France15997 Posts

November 11 2012 17:18 GMT

#74

In a kong tournament, ForGG would finish 2nd.

Poopi

France12939 Posts

November 11 2012 17:19 GMT

#75

Game number five on tal'darim altar, old fashioned mappool as usual in MSI Pro Cups!

ForGG CC first, then adds 2 rax.
SeeD is 4gating and forgg didn't build bunkers thus has a lot of troubles defending.
SeeD has too much stuff and ForGG forced to gg. This map sure is really bad and ForGG must be hating his team for making him play on such an outdated map.

SeeD wins 3-2 this qualifier and ForGG is once again coming 2nd after being ahead against a great opponent.
800€ for SeeD and 200€ for ForGG, both are qualified for the MSI Pro Cup World final!