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[Code S] RO32 Group C 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 4

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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 31 2012 01:48 GMT
#61
Gogo Maru and HerO! Overcome all odds!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 31 2012 01:55 GMT
#62
On October 31 2012 10:05 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 09:04 Fionn wrote:
KeSPA has been pretty fucking bad in GSL.

All four KeSPA players bombed in Up/Downs. Roro didn't advance last night.

Team KeSPRain.


This is why you don't give out Charity seeds for Code S, I highly rate CJEffort but apparently going 44-4 in some irrelevant tournament warrants you a seed more. Shy should get through, he's proven he's superior than Seed at PvP and Sniper's meh.

if anything though, to be honest, beating someone in a bo3 pvp is not 'proving' that one is superior to the other in skill ;p anyone who says that is angering the pvp gods
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Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
October 31 2012 01:56 GMT
#63
On October 31 2012 09:04 Fionn wrote:
KeSPA has been pretty fucking bad in GSL.

All four KeSPA players bombed in Up/Downs. Roro didn't advance last night.

Team KeSPRain.


I really think this goes back to the fact that the Kespa players had so few games to study. As many pros and casters pointed out when they hit the scene awhile back - their play is definitely Code A-S level (only a few are Code S) but they will get "figured out" just like the GSL players have over time. The best players are the ones who have no gimmicks or tricks and who adjust well to being studies (like MVP imo, or Life). I'm not saying the Kespa players won't, but at least so far they are showing they are mortal once they have a decent sample size of games to look at just like any other pro.

Also, there was probably some psychological stuff going on back at WCS qualifiers or w/e it was.

With that said, for those of you who have not followed the MLG vs. Proleague games - the Kespa pros are showing REALLY good games particularly in long management type games. I think that players like Flash will be top 1-5 in the world in a short time. It's just that the whole elephant thing (the idea that ALL the kespa pros, or the b-teamers would push out all the GSL players) is completely false and its obvious by now imo.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
October 31 2012 02:17 GMT
#64
On October 31 2012 10:56 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 09:04 Fionn wrote:
KeSPA has been pretty fucking bad in GSL.

All four KeSPA players bombed in Up/Downs. Roro didn't advance last night.

Team KeSPRain.


I really think this goes back to the fact that the Kespa players had so few games to study. As many pros and casters pointed out when they hit the scene awhile back - their play is definitely Code A-S level (only a few are Code S) but they will get "figured out" just like the GSL players have over time. The best players are the ones who have no gimmicks or tricks and who adjust well to being studies (like MVP imo, or Life). I'm not saying the Kespa players won't, but at least so far they are showing they are mortal once they have a decent sample size of games to look at just like any other pro.

Also, there was probably some psychological stuff going on back at WCS qualifiers or w/e it was.

With that said, for those of you who have not followed the MLG vs. Proleague games - the Kespa pros are showing REALLY good games particularly in long management type games. I think that players like Flash will be top 1-5 in the world in a short time. It's just that the whole elephant thing (the idea that ALL the kespa pros, or the b-teamers would push out all the GSL players) is completely false and its obvious by now imo.

I don't think elephant like flash bisu jaedoon will ever get into top again, at least not in Wing of liberty.
Even after HOTS, their chances are still same as others. There might be other mighty B-team (KESPA or non-KESPA) players stand out.
KESPA has shown hard works, but not talent, well, maybe rain showed talent. They are just average in general, 4 of 76 made into code S, not impressive at all.
Players like life, who still goes to junior high school are true talented. life, maru, keen are the future, maybe flash, certainly not jaedoon.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 31 2012 02:19 GMT
#65
On October 31 2012 09:46 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 09:04 Fionn wrote:
KeSPA has been pretty fucking bad in GSL.

All four KeSPA players bombed in Up/Downs. Roro didn't advance last night.

Team KeSPRain.


I think Bogus Shy and Rain will make it to the ro16, the rest of them, meh.

Bogus really? His code A run was tbh incredibly unimpressive I rate him and bbyong as two of the lowest players this season that and he has to beat squirtle or leenock to get out I don't think he can do that.
Glorious SEA doto
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
October 31 2012 02:21 GMT
#66
Curious! Your time to shine, Code S Round of 32!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50389 Posts
October 31 2012 02:21 GMT
#67
Neo.G_Bonjwa fighting!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 31 2012 02:33 GMT
#68
Hero < Soulkey
Maru<Curious
Soulkey<Curious
Hero>Maru
Hero<Soulkey
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
October 31 2012 02:39 GMT
#69
I really hope HerO pulls it out tonight, I wanna see that man smiling, not crying after a match ;|

Also does anyone know if GOMs gonna use twitch again? That quality was great...
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 31 2012 02:39 GMT
#70
On October 31 2012 11:19 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 09:46 Dodgin wrote:
On October 31 2012 09:04 Fionn wrote:
KeSPA has been pretty fucking bad in GSL.

All four KeSPA players bombed in Up/Downs. Roro didn't advance last night.

Team KeSPRain.


I think Bogus Shy and Rain will make it to the ro16, the rest of them, meh.

Bogus really? His code A run was tbh incredibly unimpressive I rate him and bbyong as two of the lowest players this season that and he has to beat squirtle or leenock to get out I don't think he can do that.


Before the season began I would have bet Rain, Roro and maybe Soulkey. Shy/sos, Bogus, Baby and Bbyong less so.

Looking at the groups though Rain has a pretty sick group, Bbyong is screwed, Bogus is screwed. Baby, Soulkey, Shy and Bbyong could perhaps get out of their groups, but given their play it's probably 50-50.

Gonna bet on Rain and Baby only. I don't think Soulkey will make it tonight against the Code A Judge, Terran Prince and Super Saiyan Hero. Honestly a lot of these players are a bit inconsistent tonight, I'm just betting on the high calibre Maru and Curious appearing at least. They're my hope tonight!
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 31 2012 02:41 GMT
#71
Also Tastosis should dress up in Halloween costumes tonight.

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omisa
Profile Joined January 2011
United States494 Posts
October 31 2012 02:42 GMT
#72
Hmm. Im going with HerO and Curious on this one.

Wouldnt mind if Soulkey made it thru tho.
\m/
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 31 2012 02:52 GMT
#73
On October 31 2012 11:41 Fionn wrote:
Also Tastosis should dress up in Halloween costumes tonight.


I hope for Bert and Ernie or Statler and Waldorf.


I think Maru and HerO should advance. Maru has shown tons of promise and played some good games last time I saw him play. HerO is HerO. Soulkey was hyped before the hybrid Proleague, and though he has been doing alright, he hasn't exactly been living up to that tremendous hype. He's good, but I'm hesitant to say it's worthy of Code S.
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neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
October 31 2012 02:53 GMT
#74
I'm really surprised that Maru isn't higher in the "head vote"... I guess it's stiff competition, it's pretty unpredictable, but I think Maru has excellent chances. He might not win this season, but I think he's got a lot of potential. I wouldn't be surprised to see him totally dominate for a while somewhere in the future.

Heart goes with Hero and whoever. I'd be happy with any, so long as Hero's still with us.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
October 31 2012 03:00 GMT
#75
Head goes with HerO entirely because there's no other Protoss in the group.

And Curious because he seems to love dropping out in Ro16.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 31 2012 03:05 GMT
#76
On October 31 2012 11:53 neutralrobot wrote:
I'm really surprised that Maru isn't higher in the "head vote"... I guess it's stiff competition, it's pretty unpredictable, but I think Maru has excellent chances. He might not win this season, but I think he's got a lot of potential. I wouldn't be surprised to see him totally dominate for a while somewhere in the future.

Heart goes with Hero and whoever. I'd be happy with any, so long as Hero's still with us.


Maru is good but he is not a prodigy on the level of Life or Creator. His games lack the flair that make you say, "yep, that kid gonna be the best player in the world someday."
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
October 31 2012 03:23 GMT
#77
I'd like to see Soulkey and HerO move on
alainysaur
Profile Joined September 2012
United States131 Posts
October 31 2012 03:25 GMT
#78
Hero and Curious pls :D Don't mind soulkey though
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 31 2012 03:25 GMT
#79
On October 31 2012 12:05 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 11:53 neutralrobot wrote:
I'm really surprised that Maru isn't higher in the "head vote"... I guess it's stiff competition, it's pretty unpredictable, but I think Maru has excellent chances. He might not win this season, but I think he's got a lot of potential. I wouldn't be surprised to see him totally dominate for a while somewhere in the future.

Heart goes with Hero and whoever. I'd be happy with any, so long as Hero's still with us.


Maru is good but he is not a prodigy on the level of Life or Creator. His games lack the flair that make you say, "yep, that kid gonna be the best player in the world someday."

hrm, i would disagree. maru has shown some of the best games in the past year, e.g:
maru-seed in KSL, epic base trade
maru-effort in code A, with epic micro holds
maru-jyp with nukes in TvP
maru allkilling ST
maru-july in GSTL finals with the raven/banshee play
maru-alive in up/downs with BC rush

he's pretty good :D
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 31 2012 03:28 GMT
#80
On October 31 2012 12:25 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 12:05 red4ce wrote:
On October 31 2012 11:53 neutralrobot wrote:
I'm really surprised that Maru isn't higher in the "head vote"... I guess it's stiff competition, it's pretty unpredictable, but I think Maru has excellent chances. He might not win this season, but I think he's got a lot of potential. I wouldn't be surprised to see him totally dominate for a while somewhere in the future.

Heart goes with Hero and whoever. I'd be happy with any, so long as Hero's still with us.


Maru is good but he is not a prodigy on the level of Life or Creator. His games lack the flair that make you say, "yep, that kid gonna be the best player in the world someday."

hrm, i would disagree. maru has shown some of the best games in the past year, e.g:
maru-seed in KSL, epic base trade
maru-effort in code A, with epic micro holds
maru-jyp with nukes in TvP
maru allkilling ST
maru-july in GSTL finals with the raven/banshee play
maru-alive in up/downs with BC rush

he's pretty good :D


Life and Creator already have results. Maru needs to show up this season if he wants to be mentioned along with the other prodigies. Maru also doesn't have a distinct playstyle, unlike Life or Creator, that makes him really stand out. He is good though obviously
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