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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
October 03 2012 01:02 GMT
#241
At the start of the year people we're saying SlayerS is the best team, now they're nowhere near what they used to be. At this point I'd bet even NSHoseo could beat them.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
October 03 2012 01:02 GMT
#242
On October 03 2012 10:00 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 09:56 Falconblade wrote:
On October 03 2012 09:54 Benjamin99 wrote:
No idea why Slayers would send a zerg out on that map. On another note Puma about to win 2 TvZ in a row almost a miracle


On a near 50-50 TvZ map? Hmm, those odds sure do suck for the Zerg.


You take stats that's like 12months old a lot has changed. That map is properly the most unbalanced TvZ map in competitive starcraft 2. When the Terran controls the mid the zerg can do nothing.

LOL that's what everybodys been saying since the map came out. Way to offer new insight.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
October 03 2012 01:02 GMT
#243
On October 03 2012 07:06 johnny123 wrote:
if stephano isnt playing, Slayers has this 100% . Remember to quote this statement folks for after the games.


Just quoting you as instructed! Haha!
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 03 2012 01:03 GMT
#244
On October 03 2012 10:02 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 10:00 Benjamin99 wrote:
On October 03 2012 09:56 Falconblade wrote:
On October 03 2012 09:54 Benjamin99 wrote:
No idea why Slayers would send a zerg out on that map. On another note Puma about to win 2 TvZ in a row almost a miracle


On a near 50-50 TvZ map? Hmm, those odds sure do suck for the Zerg.


You take stats that's like 12months old a lot has changed. That map is properly the most unbalanced TvZ map in competitive starcraft 2. When the Terran controls the mid the zerg can do nothing.


Daybreak is like more than 60% Zerg favored.
Metropolis is like less than 40% winrate for terran too.

:/


And none of them is as bad as Atlantis... good thing that is gone.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
October 03 2012 01:04 GMT
#245
On October 03 2012 10:02 ragz_gt wrote:
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On October 03 2012 10:00 nkr wrote:
On October 03 2012 09:57 ragz_gt wrote:
On October 03 2012 09:57 nkr wrote:
On October 03 2012 09:42 FuzzyJAM wrote:
If I hear talk of Antiga "Statistically Most Even Competitive Map in TvZ" Shipyard being really unbalanced one more time. . .


ah yes, I understand now, it's terrans go-to map because they want a fair and even game!


Well, it's terrans go-to map because everything else is like 55-45


yes, on ohana it's 55-45 for terran, which supports my previous statement where terrans want fair games


It's not that Terrans WANT fair game, it's that... alternative is not all that tempting. I'm sure they want 80-20 T favored map if it's possible.


but if you only look at statistics, terran are favored on ohana, were favored on taldarim, but always chose antiga

The point im trying to make is that just looking at a winrate to judge if a map is balanced or not isn't really the right way to do it. Hell, protoss had a huge winrate on Dual Sight vs zerg, and that map was zerg heaven.
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HaZardous47
Profile Joined April 2012
United States106 Posts
October 03 2012 01:06 GMT
#246
On October 03 2012 10:02 Havik_ wrote:
At the start of the year people we're saying SlayerS is the best team, now they're nowhere near what they used to be. At this point I'd bet even NSHoseo could beat them.


Oh, easily they could. I'm not sure what to think of that. Was their usual lineup unable to play? That felt like a last-minute B-team lineup to me. I knew Genius and Arthur only...the rest I'd never once seen in any event ever. It was pretty strange.
"And he is going to make a nice smooth transition into losing his whole fucking base" -Day[9] ~~Be sure to check out the Chobo Team League every night at www.twitch.tv/hazardous47 !
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
October 03 2012 01:11 GMT
#247
On October 03 2012 10:02 Havik_ wrote:
At the start of the year people we're saying SlayerS is the best team, now they're nowhere near what they used to be. At this point I'd bet even NSHoseo could beat them.

LOLOLO. NSHoseo has 5 people total, the only one of note being jjakji, who just dropped out of the gsl. Slayers has Alicia (mlg 2, nasl 2) Genius (gsl 2) Ryung (nothing big, but hes pretty good) and MMA (who is MMA, though slumping) If Coca and Puzzle get over their pneumonia, slayers would roflstomp nshoseo.
Today, the only one of those players that played was Genius, who lost a pvp to Huk.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
October 03 2012 01:12 GMT
#248
I'm sad now
Hopefully Cella can pull some magic with these B-teamers.
hemeh
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45771 Posts
October 03 2012 01:13 GMT
#249
Wow... that wasn't even close lol
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
October 03 2012 01:15 GMT
#250
Most Zerg wins on Antiga are with all ins and timing attacks. When the game goes late with both races even Terran is heavily favoured. Same with Metropolis actually.
Life: The New Champion!!
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#251
On October 03 2012 07:06 johnny123 wrote:
if stephano isnt playing, Slayers has this 100% . Remember to quote this statement folks for after the games.


you were saying?
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
October 03 2012 01:31 GMT
#252
Ohhhh shit Huk :D

Huk+Puma, domination....nice to see them do well (though Slayers decline is sad for sure >.<).
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37074 Posts
October 03 2012 01:37 GMT
#253
.....

What the flying f*ck is going on with SlayerS these days...
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mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
October 03 2012 01:38 GMT
#254
On October 03 2012 10:11 Walnuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 10:02 Havik_ wrote:
At the start of the year people we're saying SlayerS is the best team, now they're nowhere near what they used to be. At this point I'd bet even NSHoseo could beat them.

LOLOLO. NSHoseo has 5 people total, the only one of note being jjakji, who just dropped out of the gsl. Slayers has Alicia (mlg 2, nasl 2) Genius (gsl 2) Ryung (nothing big, but hes pretty good) and MMA (who is MMA, though slumping) If Coca and Puzzle get over their pneumonia, slayers would roflstomp nshoseo.
Today, the only one of those players that played was Genius, who lost a pvp to Huk.


Id even argue Min and Yugioh are better than these guys they play for online tournaments. They atleast had results in GSL Code A.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 01:44:40
October 03 2012 01:44 GMT
#255
It's good to see HuK doing well again, even if it's PvP.
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
October 03 2012 01:47 GMT
#256
Looks like SlayerS is focusing elsewhere. All they had to do is let MMA play and it would have been an easy all-kill for him. =D
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Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
October 03 2012 01:50 GMT
#257
On October 03 2012 10:02 Havik_ wrote:
At the start of the year people we're saying SlayerS is the best team, now they're nowhere near what they used to be. At this point I'd bet even NSHoseo could beat them.

You have to look at who SlayerS sent out for this match though. I mean really? Most people probably wouldn't be able to tell you who those guys are because they aren't well known. They have done this before with players such as Crank who NO ONE knew, just so they could get some fresh blood out there and to get them some exposure. Where I'm getting at is perhaps SlayerS is doing exactly this in the IPTL, or at least against EG this time.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
October 03 2012 02:03 GMT
#258
WTF happened to Slayers lineup? I hope they're giving the BTeamers more exposure =)
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 03 2012 02:09 GMT
#259
As I look over the results, I suddenly realized that this Slayers team is almost completely foreign to me, a hardcore Slayers fan. Genius we all know, and I love his antics, but players like Arthur, Dark, KDY, Miso? I don't even know what these guys even look like, much less their personalities! This is a team that is completely foreign to me. This isn't the team that I originally became a fan of!

I remember when MMA won the Blizzard Cup, and the entire team rushed the stage to congratulate him. I could recognize those guys: Boxer, Cella, Clide, Alicia, Ganzi, Ryung (popped the champagne all over MMA's hair). I knew about each one of these guys, and it felt natural to connect with them and root for them.

I don't mind sending out the occasional B-teamer to help them gain experience. Slayers sent out Crank and Miya, giving them opportunities and exposure, and I'm a fan of them now. But this is different. Not a single member of the old guard, of the dream team if you will, was sent. It's like I'm watching a whole new team.

I'm so confused right now.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
October 03 2012 02:11 GMT
#260
Wow, I fall asleep to miss this? I can't believe it, congratulations EG!
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