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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 13:41:19
September 15 2012 13:41 GMT
#1381
On September 15 2012 22:36 Scribble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 22:20 GhostKorean wrote:
On September 15 2012 22:18 Fusilero wrote:
On September 15 2012 22:18 Nick! wrote:
On September 15 2012 22:17 DaCruise wrote:
Thx god that Lucifron won that.

Also Orb is a pleasure to listen too. Really glad that he is still casting after the stupid drama that brought him down.


Yeah, i think without that whole drama shite that went on, he would be up with the other top casters..

He said during his personal cast of IPL finals he had offers from MLG, NASL and IPL but the drama made it all be pulled away jesus christ I was so angry when he said that.

Goddamn that is depressing he had so much potential but other people ruined his career before it even started...


Other people did not ruin his career. If you want to argue about the impact of what he did, the nature of "taking offense," political correctness going too far, and all the other controversy, be my guest. But at least be mature enough to realize that Orb made a mess for himself. Nobody sabotaged him, nobody set him up, nobody made him do anything. After the first time he was caught using racial slurs in public games, he was warned that his job was on the line. He did not control himself, and made the same mistake twice.

Stop acting like he was a helpless victim caught up in something that was out of his control.

It's ridiculous that it still has to be said. If I go around in public loosing my cool and cursing people out and using racial slurs and that gets back to employer, it's my fault if I get canned. If my employer has the decency to give me a final warning and I can't control myself after that, it doesn't matter how well anyone can justify my actions, it doesn't matter whether or not going around in public acting like an idiot does any major harm. It is my own responsibility to conduct myself in public in a reasonable way. If I don't want to, than I, as a mature adult, have to accept that my actions have consequences, just like Orb had to accept the consequences of his actions.

Now move along and watch the damn games, please.


Except after he was warned the other incidents were old ones from a year +. So yea that shoots your theory in the foot. People literally went thru 2 years of his VOD's to find those other 2 screenshots.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 15 2012 13:41 GMT
#1382
On September 15 2012 22:37 Chytilova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 22:30 Makro wrote:
dayshi vs stephano http://www.dreamhack.tv/?v=122 , as a french it's bad to see a french vs french so early


Haha what? It's top 16 of all of Europe. You thought 2 French players would get further than this point? Really?

Actually they're top 24. :p
Honestly, although Dayshi is a good player (and Stephano saying he had some difficulties to beat him at WCS France), beating Naama is a surprise. It's just bonus for him now.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
September 15 2012 13:41 GMT
#1383
terrible start for mana...
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 15 2012 13:42 GMT
#1384
Oh god, poor WhiteRa
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
September 15 2012 13:42 GMT
#1385
Please people, tune down the balance whining and discussions that have nothing to do with this tournament. This is a great thread for information as long as wonderful posts like this aren't completely drowned in random posts:

On September 15 2012 22:33 opterown wrote:
[image loading] Main Stage: (P)White-Ra vs. (P)BabyKnight
us DreamHack TV2: (T)Happy vs. (T)LucifroN
[image loading] JoRoSar: (T)ThorZaIN vs. (Z)LoWeLy
us ESV TV: (P)MaNa vs. (Z)Bly
[image loading] IMBAtv: (T)StarEagle vs. (P)Socke

[image loading] myStarcraft: (P)MaNa vs. (Z)Bly
[image loading] VasaCast: (T)StarEagle vs. (P)Socke
[image loading] The Argie: (T)Happy vs. (T)LucifroN
[image loading] Anoss: (T)Dayshi vs. (Z)Stephano
[image loading] Aftonbladet: (P)White-Ra vs. (P)BabyKnight
[image loading] Goodgame: ???
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
September 15 2012 13:42 GMT
#1386
Nerchio was right, Korea isnt helping You when playing Europeans. Mana play vs Bly is showing it, he is so confused and not prepered.
Pathetic Greta hater.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 15 2012 13:42 GMT
#1387
Bly's weird hydra timings somehow work out for him...
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
September 15 2012 13:43 GMT
#1388
Can we please not talk about the Orb controversy in this thread? There are threads discussing that issue elsewhere. This LR thread should be about this particular tournament.
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
September 15 2012 13:43 GMT
#1389
Vortix 2-1 sortof, aww yeah
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 15 2012 13:43 GMT
#1390
On September 15 2012 22:42 Vaftrudner wrote:
Please people, tune down the balance whining and discussions that have nothing to do with this tournament. This is a great thread for information as long as wonderful posts like this aren't completely drowned in random posts:

Well your no fun
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
September 15 2012 13:43 GMT
#1391
On September 15 2012 22:33 opterown wrote:
[image loading] Main Stage: (P)White-Ra vs. (P)BabyKnight
us DreamHack TV2: (T)Happy vs. (T)LucifroN
[image loading] JoRoSar: (T)ThorZaIN vs. (Z)LoWeLy
us ESV TV: (P)MaNa vs. (Z)Bly
[image loading] IMBAtv: (T)StarEagle vs. (P)Socke

[image loading] myStarcraft: (P)MaNa vs. (Z)Bly
[image loading] VasaCast: (T)StarEagle vs. (P)Socke
[image loading] The Argie: (T)Happy vs. (T)LucifroN
[image loading] Anoss: (T)Dayshi vs. (Z)Stephano
[image loading] Aftonbladet: (P)White-Ra vs. (P)BabyKnight
[image loading] Goodgame: ???


Thank you, this is so helpful ♥
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 15 2012 13:43 GMT
#1392
Apollo and Kael are trully the face of the next generation of casters.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
ReDeYe
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United Kingdom160 Posts
September 15 2012 13:43 GMT
#1393
On September 15 2012 21:36 Discerpo wrote:
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On September 15 2012 21:33 Mawi wrote:
whos this guy talking? First time ive seen him talking or in any Esport place?


Any E-sports place? Please be trolling, haha. Redeye is a legend in E-sports, though he's fairly new to the Starcraft scene.

He made his debut in Starcraft at the London WCS Qualifiers, iirc. He's done a few interviews on some SC shows since then, but I don't think he's hosted anything else in the scene until now.


Thanks I first did a SC2 tourney at the German WCS Finals, then UK Finals and on to this one.
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Day9notdead
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation501 Posts
September 15 2012 13:44 GMT
#1394
BabyK is like " I hear voices in the phones, man fix that.. " "yo there are no voices man, it's in ur head, stop using .."
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
September 15 2012 13:44 GMT
#1395
On September 15 2012 22:43 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 22:42 Vaftrudner wrote:
Please people, tune down the balance whining and discussions that have nothing to do with this tournament. This is a great thread for information as long as wonderful posts like this aren't completely drowned in random posts:

Well your no fun

*You're. + Show Spoiler +
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 15 2012 13:44 GMT
#1396
On September 15 2012 22:43 ReDeYe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 21:36 Discerpo wrote:
On September 15 2012 21:33 Mawi wrote:
whos this guy talking? First time ive seen him talking or in any Esport place?


Any E-sports place? Please be trolling, haha. Redeye is a legend in E-sports, though he's fairly new to the Starcraft scene.

He made his debut in Starcraft at the London WCS Qualifiers, iirc. He's done a few interviews on some SC shows since then, but I don't think he's hosted anything else in the scene until now.


Thanks I first did a SC2 tourney at the German WCS Finals, then UK Finals and on to this one.

Hi redeye just want to tell what you've heard 1000 times that you're doing a fantastic job hosting this.
Glorious SEA doto
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13426 Posts
September 15 2012 13:45 GMT
#1397
On September 15 2012 22:41 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 22:36 Scribble wrote:
On September 15 2012 22:20 GhostKorean wrote:
On September 15 2012 22:18 Fusilero wrote:
On September 15 2012 22:18 Nick! wrote:
On September 15 2012 22:17 DaCruise wrote:
Thx god that Lucifron won that.

Also Orb is a pleasure to listen too. Really glad that he is still casting after the stupid drama that brought him down.


Yeah, i think without that whole drama shite that went on, he would be up with the other top casters..

He said during his personal cast of IPL finals he had offers from MLG, NASL and IPL but the drama made it all be pulled away jesus christ I was so angry when he said that.

Goddamn that is depressing he had so much potential but other people ruined his career before it even started...


Other people did not ruin his career. If you want to argue about the impact of what he did, the nature of "taking offense," political correctness going too far, and all the other controversy, be my guest. But at least be mature enough to realize that Orb made a mess for himself. Nobody sabotaged him, nobody set him up, nobody made him do anything. After the first time he was caught using racial slurs in public games, he was warned that his job was on the line. He did not control himself, and made the same mistake twice.

Stop acting like he was a helpless victim caught up in something that was out of his control.

It's ridiculous that it still has to be said. If I go around in public loosing my cool and cursing people out and using racial slurs and that gets back to employer, it's my fault if I get canned. If my employer has the decency to give me a final warning and I can't control myself after that, it doesn't matter how well anyone can justify my actions, it doesn't matter whether or not going around in public acting like an idiot does any major harm. It is my own responsibility to conduct myself in public in a reasonable way. If I don't want to, than I, as a mature adult, have to accept that my actions have consequences, just like Orb had to accept the consequences of his actions.

Now move along and watch the damn games, please.


Except after he was warned the other incidents were old ones from a year +. So yea that shoots your theory in the foot. People literally went thru 2 years of his VOD's to find those other 2 screenshots.

On the plus side he has really seriously learned his lesson from the witch hunt and he has been the same awesome orb with a lot less vitriol in his personal stream.

Though he was always an utmost professional when he was working and casting.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8324 Posts
September 15 2012 13:45 GMT
#1398
On September 15 2012 15:58 TheDougler wrote:
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On September 15 2012 10:23 WindWolf wrote:
On September 15 2012 06:41 ChuCky.Ca wrote:

That'll be nice!
"Are you really going to miss it?"

Live - Unfortunally I will. And I will not be able to watch the stream all day

Edit: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs12/2012/03/28/dreamhack-och-stockholm-globe-arenas-inleder-strategiskt-samarbete/
And next year, we might get something even bigger as Tele2 Arena opens (The new name for Stockholmsarenan). Capacity: 30k for soccer, 40k for concerts.



Got about 2 minutes in, heard about the contest, I'm not gonna let your opinions bias me, I REALLY want some coaching (especially from Rotti, but I'll certainly take some Mr. Bitter coaching as well).

So lets do this shit.

Krass vs Bly:

A team Acer national champ zerg vs a middle of the pack German terran? Sorry Krass, I don't mean to be crass nor do I mean to be mean to Krass, but Bly 2-0's this one. Bly wins.

Mana vs Demuslim? Mana's best matchup and he's been rocking against terrans in Korea and europe is his wheelhouse? Mana 2-0's Demuslim. Mana wins.

Vortix vs Noctimus. I'm basing this one on the interview mostly, either noctimus is actually playing this one casual or he is playing mind games. My guess is the latter, but Vortix is too good. 2-1 Vortix, Vortix wins.

SortOf vs Nerchio... well fuck. That's a match and a half eh boys? Shit. Well I may not be the most original guy on the planet, but unless it's TSL3 betting originally doesn't get you places and my PvT is so bad I need this. Get there Nerchio, get there. Nerchio wins 2-1.

Slivko vs Grubby See this is the point where I'm glad I didn't listen to you guys, even though you're more knowledgable of the scene than I, I've got the drunk instinct, which I dunno if you have right now. Here's the thing, Slivko is good, really good. Hmm... gosh this is a close one too... arg what to pick!? Okay, grubby beat Ret in his final, and I love that brilliant sonofabeech. Lets go Grubby wins 2-1.

Ret vs Jeal : lol. Ret 2-0, NEXT.

White-Ra vs Orly. Fuck it, time to vote with my heart. Orly? No wai. White-Ra wins 2-0.

Babyknight vs Seiplo eh? Both are super underrated, super cool dudes I can see that even as a Canadian who doesn't get much insight to the European scene. I can't help but remember that Seiplo beat Sase though to get there, so I've gotta give him the nod here. Seiplo wins 2-1.

Ziktomini vs Darkforce... I feel like there's no right answer here. Ziktomini is the WCS UK champ, but Darkforce is SO consistent. Lets consult TLPD. Wow... that didn't help much. All I can say for certain is Ziktomini's ZvZ has improved significantly lately. Gotta go for the more experienced player here though, Darkforce wins 2-1.

Lucifron vs Happy...

...

How the hell can you predict this!? They're both SO GOOD, different styles, both not doing super hot right now. I'm gonna go watch your guy's vid to get some advice here... actually na, I'll fall asleep watching it imediately after this. Lucifron wins 2-1... I hope... God I have a bad feeling about that one, but a few months ago he thrashed Thorzain just after Thorzain beat Polt at Dreamhack winter. WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN!? God this is just such a sick tourney.

Socke 2-0s eel. Lol.

Titan 2-0s titan, double lol.

Fuck it. I haven't predicted a real upset yet, and Dayshi beat my boy HuK in the last TSL4 qualifier if I recall. So lets say Dayshi wins 2-1. I'd be surprised, but stranger things have happened.

Stephano vs Hasuobs... I don't believe in curses. I don't believe in curses... I don't... Arg but Hasuobs is GOOD. As a HuK fan I KNOW THIS. With that said, Stephano is beyond good. Stephano wins this one.

Thorzain vs Nightend eh? TLPD time again, gotta see what Nightend's up to lately in PvT.

OH MY GOD WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!? Talk about a good time to check! I mean, I love you Thorzain, and T-Funk's TvP is perhaps the best in europe... But you've gotta bet on a hotstreak like that, and it's kind of an upset. I hope I'm wrong here but I gotta say Nightend wins 2-1. Drunkeness don't fail me now! Sure Thorzain beat Naniwa who was still playing well at WCS Sweden, maybe their own history was a part of that thought. Yeah I gotta go for the upset and say Nightend wins here. 9 of his last 10 PvTs are wins? Including 3-0ing Puma? Wait... what's that in there though. He hasn't beat Thorzain in six months? Damnit... Whatever. EG curse fighting. I'll stick with Nightend winning 2-1.

Lowely vs DJRecco? It's an ugly planet, a BUG planet. But you know what? In this case Jhonny Recco is the bugs! So is lowely but I gotta bet on the scott. DJ Recco wins 2-1

Top Six (in no order, if that's cool).

Nerchio
Socke
Stephano
Thorzain
Titan
SortOf

Get there....


Okay, time to pass out to the melodious sound of Bitterdam. See you tomorrow gents.

Edit: TOP THREE. Oh thats greasy.

Okay, lets go for the easy pick, Stephano. Then I'm gonna have to say Mana. I didn't say him before, but that is just the awesome power of the edit button. You know what's cool? Bi-polar puns. I don't have any, but I'm gonna pick nerchio anyway. 2 Poles, (pollocks? What's the correct terminology?) 1 French prodigy.

So yes, Mana, Nerchio, and Stephano.

Edit: I guess I also quoted the wrong video. But bitterdamn knows I only have eyes for them.



Alright, lets see how my drunken skill paid off:

Predicted Winner // Actual Winner
Bly // Bly
Mana // Mana
Vortix // Vortix
Nerchio // SortOf
Grubby // Slivko (knew I shoulda bet Slivko, that dude's a beast)
Ret // Ret
WhiteRa // WhiteRa (YEAH BABY!)
Seiplo // Babyknight
Darkforce // Darkforce
Lucifron // Lucifron
Socke // Socke
Titan // WHAT THE SWEET MERCY!? Huh... StarEagle. Wow. What happened here?
Dayshi // Dayshi (woot! My upset pick paid off!)
Stephano // Stephano
Nightend // Thorzain (don't know why I doubted him. Sorry Thorzain)
DJRecco // Lowely

So, 10/16... Not an aweful start, but not great. Happy about my Dayshi pick at least.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
September 15 2012 13:45 GMT
#1399
Stephano - Dayshi game now on French stream

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SC2Kerri
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 15 2012 13:45 GMT
#1400
On September 15 2012 22:44 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 22:43 MCDayC wrote:
On September 15 2012 22:42 Vaftrudner wrote:
Please people, tune down the balance whining and discussions that have nothing to do with this tournament. This is a great thread for information as long as wonderful posts like this aren't completely drowned in random posts:

Well your no fun

*You're. + Show Spoiler +

Agree to disagree
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