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On August 26 2012 09:03 aviator116 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 09:02 Zane wrote:On August 26 2012 08:59 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:58 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 Femari wrote:On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 08:48 TommyP wrote:
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please tell me you arent talking about TaeJa. There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times He's been much much better than Mvp. mvp won gsl season 2 then the next tournament he went to he won, idk how u can say he is much much better than mvp Oh, how he beat MVP in GSL? And it's not like Taeja hasn't won tournaments  So one series decides who's the better player? Come on. It's not the first time this happens. A player wins a couple of foreign torunaments and suddenly he's the best player in the world. All I'm saying is that Taeja was better than MVP for a period of time. You actually can't disagree with that HINT: Remember HSCV?
you actually can
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Crank breaking the metagame with static stalker defence.
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Possible Idra vs TriMaster rematch incoming :3
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scarlett on that concentration camp status. looks really, really skinny. might be the lens that's throwing be off a bit though.
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And we have a winner for the game with worst play by both players.
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Is Taeja the best terran alive now? Discuss ...
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Taeja laughs about extended series.
"I am 2-1 now and yet I wont advance, so ridiculous. :D"
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On August 26 2012 09:15 Swiv wrote:
SlayerS wins!
I'm sure if we go back far enough Zenex will have won almost everything
NEXTaeJa gogogo!
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Well that game was interesting.
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On August 26 2012 09:13 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 09:08 Roggay wrote:On August 26 2012 09:06 setzer wrote:On August 26 2012 09:02 Femari wrote:On August 26 2012 09:00 setzer wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:
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There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times Considering he beat both MVP and Seed I'm not sure where your logic comes from How about Seed being the most recent GSL champion Reigning GSL champion =/= playing the best at this point in time Unless you can show me every single practice game of every single player arguing who is actually playing the best is waste of time. What matters is results, and Seed has more of them. No, what matter is current form, and not old irrelevant results. Only recent results really matters. Seed's GSL win is about as recent as Taeja's ROG win. Funny how in SC2 things that happen yesterday don't matter anymore.
Well yea true, I was more thinking of mvp's GSL win than seed's when saying that.
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HuK made it to the championship brackets, facing Illusion, then if he wins that, Hawk. Then, winner of Idra vs Trimaster/Hwangsin. Then, Heart who is inconsistent. He has a pathway to a decent run.
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On August 26 2012 09:15 fakgfdgfdh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 09:03 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 09:02 Zane wrote:On August 26 2012 08:59 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:58 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 Femari wrote:On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:50 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 08:49 Roggay wrote:
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There are a lot of Taeja haters for some reasons. Those who think that Taeja hasn't really won anything of consequence despite the great hype aren't haters. They are realists. Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times He's been much much better than Mvp. mvp won gsl season 2 then the next tournament he went to he won, idk how u can say he is much much better than mvp Oh, how he beat MVP in GSL? And it's not like Taeja hasn't won tournaments So one series decides who's the better player? Come on. It's not the first time this happens. A player wins a couple of foreign torunaments and suddenly he's the best player in the world. All I'm saying is that Taeja was better than MVP for a period of time. You actually can't disagree with that HINT: Remember HSCV? you actually can
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On August 26 2012 09:15 redviper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 09:11 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 09:09 redviper wrote:On August 26 2012 09:03 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 09:02 Zane wrote:On August 26 2012 08:59 aviator116 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:58 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:57 Femari wrote:On August 26 2012 08:55 sam05396 wrote:On August 26 2012 08:53 aviator116 wrote:
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Winning Assembly 2012 over guys like MC, IdrA, and HerO, and winning MLG Summer Arena against Alicia, First, Ganzi, and LosirA aren't anything of consequence? no doubt he is amazing but you couldnt get me to say he was ever better than mvp or seed during those times He's been much much better than Mvp. mvp won gsl season 2 then the next tournament he went to he won, idk how u can say he is much much better than mvp Oh, how he beat MVP in GSL? And it's not like Taeja hasn't won tournaments So one series decides who's the better player? Come on. It's not the first time this happens. A player wins a couple of foreign torunaments and suddenly he's the best player in the world. All I'm saying is that Taeja was better than MVP for a period of time. You actually can't disagree with that HINT: Remember HSCV? Hint: remember IPL finals? Seed crushed Taeja. Hint: remember TSL4. IMFirst crushed Taeja. Hint: remember earlier today. Crank crushed Taeja. All I am saying is that Taeja isn't the best player in the world. And he has NEVER EVER been better than MVP. wtf? I looked over all my posts that you've quoted and I've never seen me saying he has ever been the best player in the world. I really don't understand. Do you people not look at the most current head-to-head matches for determining who's better or something? No. One weekend doesn't make a better player. Not even a few month. There is NO one who can compare with the breadth and depth of MVP's results. So when Taeja wins a few GSLs, and perhaps a full MLG (which may or may not happen today) and then actually qualifies for WCG, then we can start having this discussion again.
So Kobe Bryant is better than Lebron James yes?
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Tal'darin 
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On August 26 2012 09:16 Spinoza wrote:
Is Taeja the best terran alive now? Discuss ...
No Flash is still alive.
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On August 26 2012 09:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 09:14 Wertheron wrote:
Wait, Crank play with an account "Liquid Bisu", is it a joke, or bisu goes to Liquid? ^^ I think someone gave him the account
I did, was my old smurf. EGJaedong was blocked by Battle.net.
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On August 26 2012 09:13 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2012 09:09 Type|NarutO wrote:
I think in terms of playing style, TaeJa is actually doing quiet some mistakes or very risky moves. Not taking away any credit from his brilliant mechanics but I feel he's playing a constant gamble. His information when playing is as much as you can get really, but the way he puts aggression on the Protoss is basically nothing but him being in the head of his opponent.
Are 5 marines going to post a threat to a nexus first Protoss? Not really, no. You should be afraid he is not going to chronoboost his 2 gateways or even worse, going to go 4 or 5 gate p ressure after his initial nexus. I really feel against some Protoss on the ladder this style would just not work out as good. Ofcourse his superior mechanics would carry him, but as you could see in for example TSL against Bischu on Metropolis, sometimes a gamble really doesn't pay off.
I feel like TaeJa basically already won the game because he is TaeJa. He worked hard for this psychological advantage, but there is absolutely no reason to be afraid in the early game more than against another Terran. Ofcourse his execution of builds is better, but even TaeJa can't make 5 marines worth 20. Also in the bigger battles, I think he's winning by excellent control. Its absolutely amazing how he focus fires and moves parts of his army, knowing absolutely how units will react and fire by heart, absolute beautiful to watch.
Good analysis, I think this mental play you are describing (getting into the head of the opponent) is what sets the champions apart from mere contenders, it's like the final edge that puts him apart in addition to his superb mechanics.
Edit: I'd love to see a tournament / league where the player is 'hidden'. Everyone is just playing by the name of his race so its either Protoss, Zerg or Terran and I think this would result in very different games compared to MC vs TaeJa etc. Also a Protoss vs "TERRAN" instead of a name would possibly result in other games. Would be very interesting to create a study around that.
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On August 26 2012 09:16 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
HuK made it to the championship brackets, facing Illusion, then if he wins that, Hawk. Then, winner of Idra vs Trimaster/Hwangsin. Then, Heart who is inconsistent. He has a pathway to a decent run.
what? how do you come to that pathway? haha
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