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WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
August 25 2012 22:42 GMT
#3461
On August 26 2012 07:39 askmc70 wrote:
if daisy wins his group final, where does he go next?

Into the champ bracket under winners round one, it's only two wins to the final if you win your group.
Neacant
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany40 Posts
August 25 2012 22:42 GMT
#3462
Sorry, but the tie/shirt color combinations are hurting eyes.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
August 25 2012 22:42 GMT
#3463
On August 26 2012 07:40 Archybaldie wrote:
For some reason all i can see right now is TB being a MOB boss and rotterdam being a young man who wants to get with TB's (imaginary) daughter. Willing to do anything to earn TB's trust and respect to join the family.

Thats all that plays out in my head when the camera cuts to them.


LOL, cannot unsee.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 25 2012 22:43 GMT
#3464
So if Crank wins, 3rd map is Antiga.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 25 2012 22:43 GMT
#3465
I wish they would stream First vs Losira
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
August 25 2012 22:43 GMT
#3466
On August 26 2012 07:40 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 07:37 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:36 thuracine wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:24 monkybone wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:09 Sroobz wrote:
I really feel like Day9 has completely lost all of his analysis ability. What the hell happened...


You realize this now? -_-

he went from one of my favorite casters to one of my least favorite casters.



When I first started watching sc2 events
"Fuck Yes Day9 is casting"

Now when I watch an event
"Fuck Day9 casting"


he's actually not that bad.


Yeah, the day9 hate really doesn't make much sense, I think people just listen to too many of his casts and just get tired from hearing the same day9 tone/voice so much that they get tired of it the same way anyone gets tired of anything after experiencing it for so long, and then they make up faulty rationalizations for this sentiment (when, for example, they were completely clueless/new to SC2 when they first started watching sc2, so they mistakenly believe that Day9 does not offer any information now when the truth is that they simply didn't know as much information back then so they believed day9 to offer more than he actually did in the past).


Eh, I'd like to think I'm not very biased. But, analytically compared to Artosis he knows nothing. Then when you listen to players like Hasuobs and Grubby cast the comparison is just insulting to them.

Play by play he's decent I guess, but Violet vs STC on Metropolis was perfect example of why I'm not fond of him:

"OH MY GOD 5 MINUTE 3rd BASE BY VIOLET!!!" *he literally screamed this at the top of his lungs* Really day 9?

Also, I just think his brother is much funnier and clever (but that part is biased I'll admit)
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
duct_TAPE
Profile Joined May 2011
492 Posts
August 25 2012 22:43 GMT
#3467
On August 26 2012 07:33 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 07:20 Diavlo wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:16 The Final Boss wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:
TheStC always picks the absolute wrong time to unsiege.

I don't know about that, but one moment of not being sieged certainly costs any Terran the game, regardless of their play up to that point.

Well considering the entire advantage STC had this game was because Violet moved his queens from the ramp for 5 seconds and lost 20 workers, i don't think there is that much to complain about...

TvZ is unforgiving, that's why it's fun.



Zerg vs Terran is incredibly forgiving. For example, you can let 6 hellions into your main, let them roast a lot of drones there, then come back down to your natural and get a few more kills before finally cleaning up those Hellions. But it's ok, if you manage to get a good engagement, you still win the game. If you don't, then the battle is about even economically, because after killing those Hellions you can make drones, drones, and drones.

But I agree, Terran vs Zerg is incredibly unforgiving. Your Marines get clumped up together and get fungaled? Oh, well there goes that push. Oh, you don't micro perfectly and let two banelings through? Oh, well there goes that push. Siege Tanks unsieged? Oh, well there goes that push. You walk over two burrowed banelings? Oh, well there goes that push. And remember, whenever you lose a push without doing major damage, you essentially lose the game because Zerg jumps miles ahead of you by holding down D.


Incredible bias

All you say is true IF the terran is in a horrible spot to begin with. If terran is in a good economic spot they can afford to trade armies, it's not like if you let 2 banelings hit your marines you're done, have you not seen games being played the last 2 years?
"WHAT!? but I thought there was only one way in Canada!" "Yeah, and y'all went the wrong direction on it"
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
August 25 2012 22:43 GMT
#3468
On August 26 2012 07:40 Artimo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 07:39 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
Liquid'Bisu loses first game to Liquid'Hero. So sad, how Liquid players always have to face against each other, you know what I mean?

eh you know liquid bisu is crank right?


Turn on the sarcasm detector :>
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
August 25 2012 22:43 GMT
#3469
On August 26 2012 07:30 Dodgin wrote:
Question for you guys, do you prefer this new group stage system or the old one?

Personally I liked the one one with round robin better, it was more fun to have everyone play everyone than this mini-bracket thing.


This format is okay, but it (and the pacing of the broadcast Friday night) was clearly built around the 8 KeSPA players showing up (round robin would have had too many games with 8 players per group, and it wouldn't have been good to take away seeds from the Arena or Open Bracket either). If they're to continue with this in Dallas, they need to either get the KeSPA guys for real, or (since the WCS won't be eating up time) show more Open Bracket.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 25 2012 22:44 GMT
#3470
Gooooo aLive!!! Invisible Terran fighting!
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WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
August 25 2012 22:44 GMT
#3471
Speaking of casters these fighting game guys are kinda good, like the bearded guy ^_^
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
August 25 2012 22:44 GMT
#3472
Yes! Alive! Most under-appreciated player in the world <3
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 25 2012 22:44 GMT
#3473
On August 26 2012 07:39 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
Liquid'Bisu loses first game to Liquid'Hero. So sad, how Liquid players always have to face against each other, you know what I mean?

The Liquid teamkill curse.
o choro é livre
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
August 25 2012 22:44 GMT
#3474
On August 26 2012 07:43 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 07:40 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:37 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:36 thuracine wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:24 monkybone wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:09 Sroobz wrote:
I really feel like Day9 has completely lost all of his analysis ability. What the hell happened...


You realize this now? -_-

he went from one of my favorite casters to one of my least favorite casters.



When I first started watching sc2 events
"Fuck Yes Day9 is casting"

Now when I watch an event
"Fuck Day9 casting"


he's actually not that bad.


Yeah, the day9 hate really doesn't make much sense, I think people just listen to too many of his casts and just get tired from hearing the same day9 tone/voice so much that they get tired of it the same way anyone gets tired of anything after experiencing it for so long, and then they make up faulty rationalizations for this sentiment (when, for example, they were completely clueless/new to SC2 when they first started watching sc2, so they mistakenly believe that Day9 does not offer any information now when the truth is that they simply didn't know as much information back then so they believed day9 to offer more than he actually did in the past).


Eh, I'd like to think I'm not very biased. But, analytically compared to Artosis he knows nothing. Then when you listen to players like Hasuobs and Grubby cast the comparison is just insulting to them.

Play by play he's decent I guess, but Violet vs STC on Metropolis was perfect example of why I'm not fond of him:

"OH MY GOD 5 MINUTE 3rd BASE BY VIOLET!!!" *he literally screamed this at the top of his lungs* Really day 9?

Also, I just think his brother is much funnier and clever (but that part is biased I'll admit)


Yep to be honest i would like more pro-players casting. The problem is if they start to cast, and don't practice/play anymore they lose their analysis.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
August 25 2012 22:44 GMT
#3475
10 gate, what an interesting build from crank, i might have to steal it
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obesemk
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway267 Posts
August 25 2012 22:46 GMT
#3476
I dont like watching all these kor vs kor matches when there are still foreigners left, there will be plenty of time for kor vs kor.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
August 25 2012 22:47 GMT
#3477
On August 26 2012 07:46 obesemk wrote:
I dont like watching all these kor vs kor matches when there are still foreigners left, there will be plenty of time for kor vs kor.


Yeah man. We want more idra.
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
August 25 2012 22:47 GMT
#3478
puma vs leenock games have all been relatively long games.
StooPidMonkey
Profile Joined July 2012
77 Posts
August 25 2012 22:47 GMT
#3479
On August 26 2012 07:39 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2012 07:33 The Final Boss wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:20 Diavlo wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:16 The Final Boss wrote:
On August 26 2012 07:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:
TheStC always picks the absolute wrong time to unsiege.

I don't know about that, but one moment of not being sieged certainly costs any Terran the game, regardless of their play up to that point.

Well considering the entire advantage STC had this game was because Violet moved his queens from the ramp for 5 seconds and lost 20 workers, i don't think there is that much to complain about...

TvZ is unforgiving, that's why it's fun.



Zerg vs Terran is incredibly forgiving. For example, you can let 6 hellions into your main, let them roast a lot of drones there, then come back down to your natural and get a few more kills before finally cleaning up those Hellions. But it's ok, if you manage to get a good engagement, you still win the game. If you don't, then the battle is about even economically, because after killing those Hellions you can make drones, drones, and drones.

But I agree, Terran vs Zerg is incredibly unforgiving. Your Marines get clumped up together and get fungaled? Oh, well there goes that push. Oh, you don't micro perfectly and let two banelings through? Oh, well there goes that push. Siege Tanks unsieged? Oh, well there goes that push. You walk over two burrowed banelings? Oh, well there goes that push. And remember, whenever you lose a push without doing major damage, you essentially lose the game because Zerg jumps miles ahead of you by holding down D.

He lost 20 drones and killed 13 SCVs... And TheSTC didn't just make one mistake, he unsieged his tanks all at once 3 times without any vision and he got punished.

In TvZ both players can lose a lot of workers, this game, theSTC lost 60+ workers and still made the game close.

But more than often than not, we have seen a lots of bad engagement from zergs, even lost entire army then made another 200 immediately. That's what he talked about
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
August 25 2012 22:47 GMT
#3480
On August 26 2012 07:44 TheFish7 wrote:
10 gate, what an interesting build from crank, i might have to steal it


He should have proxied it though.
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