IEM Guangzhou Americas Qualifiers - Page 5

On August 30 2012 12:30 Dexington wrote:
Where are you watching?

Suppy's game that is

On August 30 2012 12:42 8mmspikes wrote:

From Suppys place I live close by

On August 30 2012 15:31 nt-rAven wrote:
No NA player is actually representing NA in China, both Violet and Demuslim didn't participate in NA or American WCS, they are korean and uk, killer SA; Congrats to them, all good players; Go team International representing NA!!!

On August 30 2012 16:17 00Visor wrote:
Demuslim now qualified for the third straight time through American qualifiers (as well as violet and Killer).
I doubt he could achieve that in Europe.

On August 30 2012 16:22 Falconblade wrote:


Snute, Slivko and syz made it through in EU, whereas Demu took out Violet and was undefeated going through. Hmm, EU bias.

On August 30 2012 17:52 00Visor wrote:


Don't call out EU bias if you want to discuss properly.
He was undefeated? Yes, he won 2 matches.
Beating violet was impressive, but I'm not doubting he would be able to qualify one time in Europe, but 3 times straight.

Other North Americans who played in the last 4 IEMs were Minigun, Idra, Illusion and qxc. Their combined record is 1-15.

Demuslim (and violet and Killer) are lucky that they can dominated these every time in the qualifiers.

btw.: Do you think EU can be easy because slivko qualified? A guy who made it to the quarterfinals at the last 2 IEMs he played.

On August 30 2012 06:25 Shawngood wrote:

Yeah, pretty much the same. We actually adapted our European and Asian qualifiers to pHARSIDE's system as it is both open for everyone at first but also makes sure that being successfull in past IEM events gives you a head start.

On August 31 2012 01:28 desRow wrote:

The first qualifier has too few spots to make it to stage 2. You guys are starting to look like MLG 2011 format.

On August 31 2012 01:24 Falconblade wrote:



How about Fuzer, BabyKnight, Tarson in the EU qualifier. Or that EU gets 5 seeds? Not like IEM qualifiers are ever that stacked. Idta and Illusion are pretty good, both of them made it to the championship bracket.

Slivko has hardly achieved much other a few bits of hype, he is no better than Demuslim.

Do I think EU players > NA players? Yes, definitely. Do I think NA IEM Qualifiers = EU IEM Qualifiers? Yes, I do, they're hardly ever stacked.

On August 31 2012 05:28 Dexington wrote:


You're actually crazy if you think sLivko hasn't achieved much. He's been in the top 8 of multiple tournaments this year and last.

That said, if you watched Demuslim's games against Violet, he looked unstoppable. And he did really well in the group of death at the last IEM.

On August 31 2012 06:02 Falconblade wrote:


sLivko has a few iem top 8s? HSC 5? But does that mean he achieved something, or just did okay out of 32 or so players? He's on par with the rest of the nearly theres. It's the same logic by which people make Demuslim out to be a world beater, but what major event has he won recently, he's just talented and yet not the top of the top just as slivko. His only top 3 in a relatively big tournament has been 3rd at WCS Russia...

I think sLivko is good for a foreigner, but on par with the likes of IdrA, Illusion, etc. Doesn't mean the IEM EU qualifiers would be harder than NA for it.