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As usual, don't player bash, don't flame, and don't balance whine. Failure to heed this warning will have consequences.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
August 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#441
On August 19 2012 20:59 Sp00ly wrote:
So I missed the first two games. Anybody wanna quickly recap what went down?


The violet's third. A lot of times.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#442
On August 19 2012 20:56 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 20:55 Fusilero wrote:
On August 19 2012 20:54 nvrs wrote:
On August 19 2012 20:53 Dodgin wrote:
I have a theory for why the LR is so slow and I'm guessing it has something to do with the 60+ bans given out yesterday


What happened, i missed that one out, i guess balance whine

Every time a terran lost balance whining went insane.


Well that explains the large amount of posts in the thread then hohohoho ;o


Well, every time you saw a fungal land or brood lords morph a nuke was dropped here. :D
The Bomber boy
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#443
On August 19 2012 20:58 Gonlyrush22 wrote:
Blizzard Showmatch IEM:

SuperNova 1 - LucifroN 1



Is this being streamed? Is it HOTS?
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
August 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#444
On August 19 2012 20:54 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 20:53 nvrs wrote:
ZvZ has evolved to a good MU


To be fair it has been a very good MU for a few months now. The big thing that was holding it back was the constant ling baneling clusterfuck, which the queen range change really helped out with.


I love ling/bling wars. Its so micro intense and 100% action. In the korean WCS there was a game between Effort and DRG that was amazing. Sickest micro ive seen from two players over such a long period of time (almost 18 min of ling/baneling war).

I agree ZvZ is quite enjoyable as a mirror mu. Thou it can get a bit boring when both players decide to macro and max out on roach/infestor. One thing that makes it good is that you can always get back in the game with a good ling runby and stuff like that.
Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
August 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#445
I don't really enjoy hearing Nerchio being praised all game long. "amazing overlord preparation..." "amazing move command"...
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#446
On August 19 2012 20:59 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 20:59 Sp00ly wrote:
So I missed the first two games. Anybody wanna quickly recap what went down?


The violet's third. A lot of times.


Haha, oh you :p
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#447
On August 19 2012 20:59 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 20:59 Coal wrote:
'SteelSeries
4 minutes ago
Welcome NesTea, Mvp, LosirA, Seed, Happy and all the other guys over at Incredible Miracle. We look forward to supporting and developing new peripherals with you. ''

Is this news? Can't recall seeing a Steelseries logo on any IM player before...

Steelseries sponsored MVP and nestea last year, they must have extended it to the whole team.


IM getting all of dem sponsors

they are probably going to become a kespa team next year
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 12:02:12
August 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#448
On August 19 2012 20:57 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 20:54 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 19 2012 20:53 nvrs wrote:
ZvZ has evolved to a good MU


To be fair it has been a very good MU for a few months now. The big thing that was holding it back was the constant ling baneling clusterfuck, which the queen range change really helped out with.

effort-drg lingbane was amazing haha


Ling bane wars were never a problem, they have always been awesome.

The biggest thing holding it back was 14/14 vs 15hatch vs 10pool rock paper scissors. 1-2 games out of every BoX was wasted on a cheese to make sure your opponents aren't 15hatching every game.
Now that 15 pool builds are finally fitting in somehow, the initial build order is less important, and you actually get real games.

zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 12:02:27
August 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#449
On August 19 2012 20:54 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 20:53 nvrs wrote:
ZvZ has evolved to a good MU


To be fair it has been a very good MU for a few months now. The big thing that was holding it back was the constant ling baneling clusterfuck, which the queen range change really helped out with.


Tbh ling bane wars were the only reason I enjoyed ZvZ
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
August 19 2012 12:02 GMT
#450
On August 19 2012 21:00 Oboeman wrote:

Ling bane was never a problem, it has always been awesome.

The biggest thing holding it back was 14/14 vs 15hatch vs 10pool rock paper scissors. 1-2 games out of every BoX was wasted on a cheese to make sure your opponents aren't 15hatching every game.
Now that 15 pool builds are finally fitting in somehow, the initial build order is less important, and you actually get real games.


People got good enough at drone micro to hold off early pools even with hatch first too, that's a pretty big part of it
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
August 19 2012 12:02 GMT
#451
On August 19 2012 20:59 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 20:58 Gonlyrush22 wrote:
Blizzard Showmatch IEM:

SuperNova 1 - LucifroN 1



Is this being streamed? Is it HOTS?


I doubt it's HotS. Just fun games, MC tried carrier rushing Puma in it and because it worked that's why he did it vs Kas too lol
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
August 19 2012 12:02 GMT
#452
On August 19 2012 20:59 Sp00ly wrote:
So I missed the first two games. Anybody wanna quickly recap what went down?

Both games went muta vs muta.

Game one Nerchio was denied from killing off the third, but he got mutas out sooner. Later on with both players staying on mutalisks, Nerchio overcommitted and sent his mutas in Violets main, trapping them and losing them all off. After that, Violet never really let down on his advantage and won.

Game two Nerchio kept on denying the third over and over again while keeping his own. Violet transitioned into infestors from muta tech way too soon and Nerchios mutas quickly overpowered the infestors and smaller muta force by spreading them out. In the end his superior economy won out over Violet, destroying the third again with an enormous roach flood.
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
August 19 2012 12:02 GMT
#453
start the goddamned next game already
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 12:04:29
August 19 2012 12:03 GMT
#454
On August 19 2012 20:59 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 20:58 Gonlyrush22 wrote:
Blizzard Showmatch IEM:

SuperNova 1 - LucifroN 1



Is this being streamed? Is it HOTS?


A foreigner going 1-1 vs a korean ? What if LucifroN manages to win ? Patch terran ?
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
August 19 2012 12:04 GMT
#455
On August 19 2012 21:02 Chaosvuistje wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 20:59 Sp00ly wrote:
So I missed the first two games. Anybody wanna quickly recap what went down?

Both games went muta vs muta.

Game one Nerchio was denied from killing off the third, but he got mutas out sooner. Later on with both players staying on mutalisks, Nerchio overcommitted and sent his mutas in Violets main, trapping them and losing them all off. After that, Violet never really let down on his advantage and won.

Game two Nerchio kept on denying the third over and over again while keeping his own. Violet transitioned into infestors from muta tech way too soon and Nerchios mutas quickly overpowered the infestors and smaller muta force by spreading them out. In the end his superior economy won out over Violet, destroying the third again with an enormous roach flood.


Thankyou very much :D
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
August 19 2012 12:04 GMT
#456
that intel box on the table is f***ing irritating
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 19 2012 12:05 GMT
#457
On August 19 2012 21:02 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:00 Oboeman wrote:

Ling bane was never a problem, it has always been awesome.

The biggest thing holding it back was 14/14 vs 15hatch vs 10pool rock paper scissors. 1-2 games out of every BoX was wasted on a cheese to make sure your opponents aren't 15hatching every game.
Now that 15 pool builds are finally fitting in somehow, the initial build order is less important, and you actually get real games.


People got good enough at drone micro to hold off early pools even with hatch first too, that's a pretty big part of it

According to the very reliable Belial, you can defend 6-7pool with Hatch First, but 10pool is so hard a counter as to be an autoloss for the greedy Zerg.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
August 19 2012 12:05 GMT
#458
why there only few people in this thread? Everybody wants to see MVP?
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 19 2012 12:06 GMT
#459
omg first time in my life i see Nerchio going hatch first
Stork[gm]
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 19 2012 12:06 GMT
#460
On August 19 2012 21:05 habeck wrote:
why there only few people in this thread? Everybody wants to see MVP?


Everybody's banned.
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