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haitike
Spain2726 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On August 21 2012 16:32 Dodgin wrote: I'm not worked up at all It's just insulting to a player to comment so ignorantly on them without watching their games to be able to make a proper judgement. Everyone who watched IEM knows Mvp is back in shape and able to play long macro games and win again. But you are commenting in OSL thread, i for example dont expect any of his opponent in current OSL to roll over and die like EU zergs who tried to improvise vs him (because they can only train vs Kas, which is ok vs Forgg/supernova but not vs MMA, MVP, Taeja). I would say MVP looks great vs weak opposition, but that does not mean anything yet about his OSL capabilities. Thats pure speculation. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 21 2012 16:32 Dodgin wrote: I'm not worked up at all It's just insulting to a player to comment so ignorantly on them without watching their games to be able to make a proper judgement. Everyone who watched IEM knows Mvp is back in shape and able to play long macro games and win again. He was playing macro games for most of that season, MVP vs ryung featured him making a come back with late game BCs, MVP vs July had July doing all the agression and MVP vs leenock was mind blowingly awesome (Oh there was also puzzle, MVP kind of played a cute very agressive style which puzzle didn't really try to shut down and kind of lost). Okay so he was cheesy against naniwa but against parting and squirtle he cheesed no more than any other player would (Besides it's parting do you really think there's any terran who wouldn't try to cheese/ all in him anyway). | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On August 21 2012 16:58 bgx wrote: But you are commenting in OSL thread, i for example dont expect any of his opponent in current OSL to roll over and die like EU zergs who tried to improvise vs him (because they can only train vs Kas, which is ok vs Forgg/supernova but not vs MMA, MVP, Taeja). I would say MVP looks great vs weak opposition, but that does not mean anything yet about his OSL capabilities. Thats pure speculation. Oh I know, I'm not saying he's favored to win OSL or anything like that. I actually think Parting is going to win OSL. There's only two Zergs and one is Nestea who doesn't look strong against good competition lately and DRG is in a mini-slump. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
First because GOM players and Kespa players besides very few small exceptions didn't have much competetive rivalry. Im actually expecting for example JangBi to taunt Flash/Fantasy more rather than saying anything about gom players. There is possibility of Kespa players wanting to challange all of GOM players first, which would be fun. But I wouldnt be suprised if Jangbi snatches Flash first, cause he wanted to play vs him in OSL finals :p And Flash is easier route than GOM players still so killing 2 birds with one stone. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
And as many of you highlighted DRG has been pretty poor lately from losing GSL to other competitions, but he has been off the radar for about 2 weeks, so maybe he might of refound himself. Be interesting to see which match he picks. | ||
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FidoDido
United States1292 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 21 2012 17:05 bgx wrote: Going back to main theme, i think the talking part can be really boring. First because GOM players and Kespa players besides very few small exceptions didn't have much competetive rivalry. Im actually expecting for example JangBi to taunt Flash/Fantasy more rather than saying anything about gom players. There is possibility of Kespa players wanting to challange all of GOM players first, which would be fun. But I wouldnt be suprised if Jangbi would snatch Flash first, cause he wanted to play him in OSL finals :p And Flash is easier route than GOM players still so killing 2 birds with one stone. I think that parting will provoke a kespa player into picking him and another kespa player would probably try to challenge MVP into picking him. | ||
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vanhio
Niue1017 Posts
On August 21 2012 17:05 bgx wrote: Going back to main theme, i think the talking part can be really boring. First because GOM players and Kespa players besides very few small exceptions didn't have much competetive rivalry. Im actually expecting for example JangBi to taunt Flash/Fantasy more rather than saying anything about gom players. There is possibility of Kespa players wanting to challange all of GOM players first, which would be fun. But I wouldnt be suprised if Jangbi snatches Flash first, cause he wanted to play vs him in OSL finals :p And Flash is easier route than GOM players still so killing 2 birds with one stone. I want some TRASH TALK GOGOGO | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On August 21 2012 17:07 Fusilero wrote: I think that parting will provoke a kespa player into picking him and another kespa player would probably try to challenge MVP into picking him. Well i hope, this will be as trashy as possible, that was always the biggest highlight of group selections and what made MSL great, now with MSL out OGN has to kinda step up this part :p In MSL 2009 Magma (zerg player) fluked his way into MSL group selections and simply started to trash talk everyone there, definitely one of the funniest things. I think thats the part (cant check, at work :/) for anyone interested. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/yki23/a_general_response_from_bw_fans_in_korea_about_sc2/ | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
On August 21 2012 17:17 Dodgin wrote: An interesting thread on Reddit popped up that is pretty relevant to the group selections tonight, it talks about what the Korean netizens are thinking about sc2 and the gom players vs kespa players. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/yki23/a_general_response_from_bw_fans_in_korea_about_sc2/ Why do you think it's interesting? It's the same thing all BW fans said. Nothing special imo. I think there will be no translation for today, right? | ||
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
On August 21 2012 17:17 Dodgin wrote: An interesting thread on Reddit popped up that is pretty relevant to the group selections tonight, it talks about what the Korean netizens are thinking about sc2 and the gom players vs kespa players. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/yki23/a_general_response_from_bw_fans_in_korea_about_sc2/ fomos is anti sc2 and pro bw though afaik. it just seems like the same kind of comments i see from foreign bw hardcore fans. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On August 21 2012 17:23 KiNGxXx wrote: Why do you think it's interesting? It's the same thing all BW fans said. Nothing special imo. I think there will be no translation for today, right? I think It's interesting because we don't usually get fomos comments translated for people to see what they think about things. On August 21 2012 17:24 Corrosive wrote: fomos is anti sc2 and pro bw though afaik. it just seems like the same kind of comments i see from foreign bw hardcore fans. I think the most important part of it is that they have accepted sc2 and are not ditching RTS entirely. The bigger the sc2 scene in Korea gets the better for everyone. | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
On August 21 2012 17:27 Dodgin wrote: I think It's interesting because we don't usually get fomos comments translated for people to see what they think about things. Ok, that's true. But what they say is boring, old and just bw elitism. | ||
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haitike
Spain2726 Posts
On August 21 2012 17:31 KiNGxXx wrote: Ok, that's true. But what they say is boring, old and just bw elitism. Almost all the Koreans netizien are bw elitists, they have been following bw 12 years in television. BW elitist is the general korean opinion, they are not the the small bw section in TL. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
6 months ago sc2 was still exciting, with good matchups (especially TvZ). Nowadays every game and every matchup is the same. When the bw->sc2 transition started I was still encouraging bw fans to try and watch it and I was confident they'd at least like TvZ, nowadays I could not do that without feeling dishonest TT. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On August 21 2012 17:55 MrCon wrote: Poor bw fans have been introduced to sc2 at the worst possible moment. I'd argue that even the steppes of war era was more exciting than the current sc2 state, because it was new. 6 months ago sc2 was still exciting, with good matchups (especially TvZ). Nowadays every game and every matchup is the same. When the bw->sc2 transition started I was still encouraging bw fans to try and watch it and I was confident they'd at least like TvZ, nowadays I could not do that without feeling dishonest TT. The biggest cake was already blowed away because blizzard did not recognize the only opportunity they had to make SC2 popular in Korea, was to make a deal with Kespa/OGN right away at switch. If Flash/Jaedong etc played SC2 since 2010, the current landscape would be dramatically different. Even if many people pulled away because of game diference there would still be a large number of people in Korea that would keep following SC2 because of naturality of transition, instead we had 2 polar entities happen at the same time (BW Proleague/OSL, GSL/Foreign tournaments), which gave the main reason to bring Elephant into this. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On August 21 2012 16:31 vthree wrote: Are you sure? It says 2-0 on liquipedia. Why did taeja miss it? Leveltory shows WW as well and they usually go with BYE if it is a walkover. it's wrong, i should edit it haha. taeja missed his train or something | ||
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Meiffeltower
Sweden674 Posts
anyone know which one is correct? | ||
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