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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 08 2012 15:41 GMT
#1821
caught in a landslide

NO ESCAPE FROM REALITY
Writer
Mozzery
Profile Joined January 2012
United States140 Posts
August 08 2012 16:11 GMT
#1822
On August 09 2012 00:33 StorkHwaiting wrote:
No, what you're seeing is nothing. What you guys don't seem to understand, despite numerous interview answers telling you this, is that the Kespa players are still busy playing SC1!! No transition has occurred yet. The Kespa players are just fking winging it. Most of the teams don't even have SC2 coaches in their houses yet and barely play the game.

Reality won while spending all his time helping his teammate train for the OSL finals. He himself stated he's barely played or improved since his prelim match.


what you're missing is that a lot of SC1 teams have switched training to 80% SC2, and that BEFORE the prelims Reality practiced his butt of at SC2. You make it seem as if SC1 and SC2 are of equal priority to most Kespa teams, but if I remember correctly only the sadly departed Air Force Ace actually had their main focus on BW after the dual league was announced.

So, are you saying that the 20% of the time most of the Kespa players spend playing BW and training for it still is responsible for the difference between getting beaten at almost equal footing and completely dominating the GOM players? I find that hard to believe.
Proponent of team liquid word filtering imbalanced to "at an unacceptable level of racial balance/game design"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 08 2012 16:15 GMT
#1823
Kespa takes a win D:!!!
Congrats to Creator for taking down DRG as well! Prime!! woo!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
August 08 2012 16:16 GMT
#1824
Where are you getting these numbers?
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 08 2012 16:23 GMT
#1825
StorkHwaiting, save your breath. Don't argue with these 'kids'.

User was warned for this post
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 08 2012 16:36 GMT
#1826
unleashing the mammoth, it´s gonna trample someone (;
Broodwar for life!
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
August 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1827
Woooooooooooooooooooo Creator! It's finally your time!
Life is too short to take it seriously.
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 17:07:05
August 08 2012 16:58 GMT
#1828
On August 09 2012 01:16 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Where are you getting these numbers?


Interviews with Jaedong, Bisu, and Coach Park that were posted in May. In it Coach Park says SKT1 is spending 80% of their practice time on SC2. Jaedong says he had been practicing SC2 for "almost two months", which means he probably started practicing at some point in April, which is about the time Bisu states in his interview.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339200

Obviously this is extrapolation, but it seems reasonable to assume most other players/teams have also been focusing the vast majority of their attention on SC2 for about four months now.

Edit:
There's also an Flash interview posted around the same time where he says he was focusing 100% on practicing SC2, but would probably spend some time practicing BW later for Proleague.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336791
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 08 2012 17:02 GMT
#1829
The reality is, that it's only 1 bo3 against one of the weakest gsl players. I'm sure he put a lot of effort into sc2 already, but it's too early to declare him an elephant hero.

Sad for DRG. He's still on tilt from his heartbreaking losses. Hope he can get back to his usual play soon, cause he's been playing pretty bad lately.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
August 08 2012 17:05 GMT
#1830
On August 09 2012 01:58 Dranak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 01:16 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Where are you getting these numbers?


Interviews with Jaedong, Bisu, and Coach Park that was posted in May. In it Coach Park says SKT1 is spending 80% of their practice time on SC2. Jaedong says he had been practicing SC2 for "almost two months", which means he probably started practicing at some point in April, which is about the time Bisu states in his interview.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339200

Obviously this is extrapolation, but it seems reasonable to assume most other players/teams have also been focusing the vast majority of their attention on SC2 for at least four months now.


Still takes time to get used to all the meta. Do I think all of the Kespa players are going to dominate no. I still think people don't give credit to some of the Kespa players. They haven't had as much experience at the tournament level with Starcraft II. Yes you can play lots of ladder games but that doesn't translate to tournaments.

Reality now has beaten Shine, Symbol, Heart, and Yugioh. That is a pretty good track record. Now can he beat Puzzle? Not sure about that. In his interview he said "his protoss is noob."
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
August 08 2012 17:05 GMT
#1831
On August 09 2012 02:02 Canucklehead wrote:
The reality is, that it's only 1 bo3 against one of the weakest gsl players. I'm sure he put a lot of effort into sc2 already, but it's too early to declare him an elephant hero.

Sad for DRG. He's still on tilt from his heartbreaking losses. Hope he can get back to his usual play soon, cause he's been playing pretty bad lately.


He beat Symbol in the qualifiers . One of the top 8 GSL players.
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 08 2012 17:06 GMT
#1832
Ouch. The loser's bracket is looking pretty bad for the KeSPA players. Jaedong vs sC. Soulkey vs CoCa. Effort vs DRG. Not to mention the winner of Soulkey vs CoCa has to play the winner of MVP vs Happy (haha, IM teamkill). Luckily, By.Sun and herO have easier brackets against Horror and Yugioh respectively,
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
August 08 2012 17:07 GMT
#1833
On August 09 2012 01:23 Xiphos wrote:
StorkHwaiting, save your breath. Don't argue with these 'kids'.


Yeah... I'm starting to see it's a lost cause. Just pisses me off that they come to TL, a site created by BW, to watch and discuss esports, an industry created by BW, and then turn around and gloat and badmouth the people that built it.
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
August 08 2012 17:09 GMT
#1834
On August 09 2012 02:05 Coolness53 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 02:02 Canucklehead wrote:
The reality is, that it's only 1 bo3 against one of the weakest gsl players. I'm sure he put a lot of effort into sc2 already, but it's too early to declare him an elephant hero.

Sad for DRG. He's still on tilt from his heartbreaking losses. Hope he can get back to his usual play soon, cause he's been playing pretty bad lately.


He beat Symbol in the qualifiers . One of the top 8 GSL players.


Yeah, Reality has been looking damn good. It'll be interesting to see him play a matchup other than TvZ.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
August 08 2012 17:11 GMT
#1835
On August 09 2012 02:07 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 01:23 Xiphos wrote:
StorkHwaiting, save your breath. Don't argue with these 'kids'.


Yeah... I'm starting to see it's a lost cause. Just pisses me off that they come to TL, a site created by BW, to watch and
discuss esports, an industry created by BW, and then turn around and gloat and badmouth the people that built it.


its not even a matter of badmouthing BW... it's "lol elephant is dead" when kespa isn't playing SC2 fulltime.
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
August 08 2012 17:14 GMT
#1836
The irony is that not even SC2 players are playing SC2 that much. High profile ones are traveling around so much.
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
August 08 2012 17:19 GMT
#1837
The Elephant is dead. Get over it.

The point of that miserable piece of shit article was that
"competition thus far in SC2 is a FARCE" and
"there are hundreds of people who would DOMINATE the scene immediately after they switch"
which time and time again has been proven wrong.

For the current champs, who were duds in BW, somehow SC2 worked for them, BW did not. They aren't inherently better or worse.

Oh how I hate that crap article for creating this divide in the community... it wasn't supposed to be like this
in a state of trance
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 08 2012 17:25 GMT
#1838
Huh, I think people are failing to recall how much lower the skill level was when the article was written...
Writer
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
August 08 2012 17:27 GMT
#1839
I don't know why people care about the elephant at all, I'm just waiting for the BW players to start dominating, I don't care about it not being instantly and neither am I some BW fanboy hating on sc2 skill or anything like that. I just prefer most of the BW players over the sc2 except for a couple so I just want to start cheering on them all the way through more tournaments as soon as possible.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
August 08 2012 17:28 GMT
#1840
On August 09 2012 02:25 ]343[ wrote:
Huh, I think people are failing to recall how much lower the skill level was when the article was written...

Did the writer of the article really not put into consideration the potential for the SC2 players to get better...it's not like they wouldn't improve.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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