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Please everyone, stop the balance whining.

This is the only warning before bans will be handed out, effective page 53.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
August 03 2012 18:19 GMT
#2601
On August 04 2012 03:16 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:12 ibo422 wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:10 Sub40APM wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:09 Empirimancer wrote:
Idra's play is just so uninspiring.


I dont know, he got out of group stages. That is more than I think what a lot of people expected from him. Sure the days of him actually doing something at a tournament that isnt rage related are long gone but getting out of groups is still pretty respectable for a player-caster.

The groups got changed.. some players got replaced.. he beat someone who is awful at ZvZ 6-0 and ppl got excited as usual..

Pretty much this. IdrA looked great yesterday when he was playing against players well below his level... Playing some good Koreans = GG(Or lack thereof against Moon..)

I dont know bros, he looked pretty decent against Taeja. But in general, its obviously the game is slipping from him and has been for the least 12 months. Even with the meta game shift in favor of Zerg in the way that he wanted, with a quicker scouting and better early defense [and this seems to be statistically supported prior to this tournament] nothing really seems to have changed for idra.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 03 2012 18:19 GMT
#2602
I must say, Soe doesn't look bad at all.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 03 2012 18:19 GMT
#2603
What's the ForGG-Moon score atm, Liquipedia not showing it?
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
August 03 2012 18:20 GMT
#2604
On August 04 2012 03:19 ZenithM wrote:
I must say, Soe doesn't look bad at all.


I would even dare to say she looks good!
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 03 2012 18:20 GMT
#2605
On August 04 2012 03:18 Lysanias wrote:
Incontrol still bringing up that 1x Idra beat Puma.


it's relevant because they just played you idiot jesus
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 03 2012 18:20 GMT
#2606
On August 04 2012 01:48 starception wrote:
idra is such a badass.. this is why he's my favorite player..

idra will win the group because he said he will 100% for sure take advantage of forgg's style, moon is unpredictable, but so is ZvZ and puma well, he already beat puma at IEM so..yea

idra 3-0 each player to get first in his group

Guys, i think we found a replacement for ZeroSC2 :D
¯\_(シ)_/¯
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 03 2012 18:20 GMT
#2607
On August 04 2012 03:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:18 Lysanias wrote:
Incontrol still bringing up that 1x Idra beat Puma.


it's relevant because they just played you idiot jesus


Better don't read the thread. Full of trolls.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 18:21:49
August 03 2012 18:20 GMT
#2608
He won 1 game vs Taeja where Taeja tried a 2 rax that was spotted, otherwise in those games you could always tell he couldnt beat him.

He probably underestimated Moon and thought he was at the same level as he was years ago in the GSL, Moon gets top class practice on a daily basis and he has more experience than Idra, it was only a matter of time before Moon outclassed him.

Puma is back in Korea and getting great practice, so really...yeah not gonna beat him either.

Starcraft aint no science, you work hard with the very best and you will raise your level, both Taeja, Moon and Puma all do that now. If Greg got solid amounts of practice in Korea im pretty sure he could give more competitive games here
★ Top Gun ★
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
August 03 2012 18:20 GMT
#2609
On August 04 2012 03:18 getSome[703] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:17 Talin wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
It's a shame Starception got banned so early, I really wanted an explanation for this 0-6


Everyone knows TvZ is imbalanced in Terran favor.

Yup.

Been that way forever.



So is ZvZ, it favors whoever idra is playing haha


...like Protosser...?

???
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
August 03 2012 18:21 GMT
#2610
On August 04 2012 03:19 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:16 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:12 ibo422 wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:10 Sub40APM wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:09 Empirimancer wrote:
Idra's play is just so uninspiring.


I dont know, he got out of group stages. That is more than I think what a lot of people expected from him. Sure the days of him actually doing something at a tournament that isnt rage related are long gone but getting out of groups is still pretty respectable for a player-caster.

The groups got changed.. some players got replaced.. he beat someone who is awful at ZvZ 6-0 and ppl got excited as usual..

Pretty much this. IdrA looked great yesterday when he was playing against players well below his level... Playing some good Koreans = GG(Or lack thereof against Moon..)

I dont know bros, he looked pretty decent against Taeja. But in general, its obviously the game is slipping from him and has been for the least 12 months. Even with the meta game shift in favor of Zerg in the way that he wanted, with a quicker scouting and better early defense [and this seems to be statistically supported prior to this tournament] nothing really seems to have changed for idra.

Yea he did look pretty good against TaeJa, but I think the games against TaeJa that he looked good in where the ones where TaeJa went for a cheesy opening which failed

Of course not taking everything away from IdrA performance, holding the cheese and then transitioning to use that full advantage was good. Just that in games when they were on equal footing after the opening TaeJa picked him apart.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 03 2012 18:21 GMT
#2611
Moon defends his third against Forgg's push with a nice flank.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
August 03 2012 18:21 GMT
#2612
On August 04 2012 03:20 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:18 getSome[703] wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:17 Talin wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
It's a shame Starception got banned so early, I really wanted an explanation for this 0-6


Everyone knows TvZ is imbalanced in Terran favor.

Yup.

Been that way forever.



So is ZvZ, it favors whoever idra is playing haha


...like Protosser...?

???
Protosser has 30% ZvZ winrate.
#freeshauni
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
August 03 2012 18:21 GMT
#2613
You shouldn't read the forums iNc. Don't feed the trolls

On another note, quite deceived by Idra's performance.
@ggmonx
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 18:22:18
August 03 2012 18:22 GMT
#2614
On August 04 2012 03:20 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:18 getSome[703] wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:17 Talin wrote:
On August 04 2012 03:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
It's a shame Starception got banned so early, I really wanted an explanation for this 0-6


Everyone knows TvZ is imbalanced in Terran favor.

Yup.

Been that way forever.



So is ZvZ, it favors whoever idra is playing haha


...like Protosser...?

???

I think he meant it favors any zerg with a ZvZ winrate higher than 26%.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 03 2012 18:22 GMT
#2615
On August 04 2012 03:19 Talin wrote:
What's the ForGG-Moon score atm, Liquipedia not showing it?

Moon 2-1 fOrGG
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
August 03 2012 18:22 GMT
#2616
it's 2-1 in favour of moon
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
August 03 2012 18:22 GMT
#2617
On August 04 2012 03:19 Talin wrote:
What's the ForGG-Moon score atm, Liquipedia not showing it?


2:1 for Moon, currently Moon have 25 supply advantage in 3rd game. He shutted down attack by ForGG easily
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2586 Posts
August 03 2012 18:22 GMT
#2618
On August 04 2012 03:20 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:19 ZenithM wrote:
I must say, Soe doesn't look bad at all.


I would even dare to say she looks good!


Does anyone know where she comes from? This one time, she said "Komandozentrale" perfectly makes me think she is german.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 03 2012 18:22 GMT
#2619
On August 04 2012 03:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:18 Lysanias wrote:
Incontrol still bringing up that 1x Idra beat Puma.


it's relevant because they just played you idiot jesus


Punctuation might be important here. Is he an idiot, jesus or an idiot jesus?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 03 2012 18:22 GMT
#2620
On August 04 2012 03:20 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 03:18 Lysanias wrote:
Incontrol still bringing up that 1x Idra beat Puma.


it's relevant because they just played you idiot jesus

Was it at IEM Guangzhou? I seem to remember Idra beating Puma more than once
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