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[IPL] FC27: Squirtle vs Illusion - Page 2

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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
July 30 2012 18:43 GMT
#21
Needs more Taeja
s1ege
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 18:54:16
July 30 2012 18:53 GMT
#22
On July 31 2012 03:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 02:50 Takezou wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:44 Champloo wrote:
Why does IPL invite Illusion to everything they do?



Probably because there are very few noteworthy Americans with decent results/potential these days.


I'd love to see Scarlett/Major/Idra/Suppy play in this.

Although for Major/idra not against squirtle as both have shakey vps


you clearly forgot when idra clearly 2-0'd MC at the MLG when the koreans were first able to participate. yeah...that's definitely some shakey vp. the only reason idra lost 4-0 in extended was because of the MMA games...they tilted him, and you know idra, once he gets tilted he plays bad. if he didn't have that mindset problem, he would be better than stephano
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
July 30 2012 18:54 GMT
#23
Illusion was able to take games off of everyone at Hot Import Nights. Let's not count him out.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
July 30 2012 18:58 GMT
#24
On July 31 2012 03:53 s1ege wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 03:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:50 Takezou wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:44 Champloo wrote:
Why does IPL invite Illusion to everything they do?



Probably because there are very few noteworthy Americans with decent results/potential these days.


I'd love to see Scarlett/Major/Idra/Suppy play in this.

Although for Major/idra not against squirtle as both have shakey vps


you clearly forgot when idra clearly 2-0'd MC at the MLG when the koreans were first able to participate. yeah...that's definitely some shakey vp. the only reason idra lost 4-0 in extended was because of the MMA games...they tilted him, and you know idra, once he gets tilted he plays bad. if he didn't have that mindset problem, he would be better than stephano


Yeah, we also forgot when Idra was unrivaled top foreigner from late 2009 to winter 2010. Surprisingly, memory does tend to fade a little as the years pass.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 19:02:28
July 30 2012 19:01 GMT
#25
On July 31 2012 03:53 s1ege wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 03:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:50 Takezou wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:44 Champloo wrote:
Why does IPL invite Illusion to everything they do?



Probably because there are very few noteworthy Americans with decent results/potential these days.


I'd love to see Scarlett/Major/Idra/Suppy play in this.

Although for Major/idra not against squirtle as both have shakey vps


you clearly forgot when idra clearly 2-0'd MC at the MLG when the koreans were first able to participate. yeah...that's definitely some shakey vp. the only reason idra lost 4-0 in extended was because of the MMA games...they tilted him, and you know idra, once he gets tilted he plays bad. if he didn't have that mindset problem, he would be better than stephano

Well gee, sucks that he has that problem right? We can play the "if" game all day long, but as it stands Idra hasn't had significant results in about 9 months.
@Battousai13 Illusion lost 2-1 to HerO, 2-0 to MMA, so no he didn't take games off everybody.
If Squirtle can handle Illusion's really good early/early mid-game harassment without significant damage, he should be fine.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
July 30 2012 19:04 GMT
#26
hope they can scarlett for this one, recco down the road.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
July 30 2012 19:06 GMT
#27
On July 31 2012 03:53 s1ege wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 03:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:50 Takezou wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:44 Champloo wrote:
Why does IPL invite Illusion to everything they do?



Probably because there are very few noteworthy Americans with decent results/potential these days.


I'd love to see Scarlett/Major/Idra/Suppy play in this.

Although for Major/idra not against squirtle as both have shakey vps


you clearly forgot when idra clearly 2-0'd MC at the MLG when the koreans were first able to participate. yeah...that's definitely some shakey vp. the only reason idra lost 4-0 in extended was because of the MMA games...they tilted him, and you know idra, once he gets tilted he plays bad. if he didn't have that mindset problem, he would be better than stephano

MC was jetlagged badly. As soon as he took some Red Bull he 4-0ed him.
WriterMaru
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 30 2012 19:08 GMT
#28
IPL sure does fancy illusion lately! Give em hell illusion.. winning here would be huge.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32744 Posts
July 30 2012 19:20 GMT
#29
Squirtle probably will win with little trouble, but even if he whiffs a game, I wouldn't be too surprised.
5-1 for Squirtle.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
s1ege
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)123 Posts
July 30 2012 19:22 GMT
#30
On July 31 2012 04:06 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 03:53 s1ege wrote:
On July 31 2012 03:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:50 Takezou wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:44 Champloo wrote:
Why does IPL invite Illusion to everything they do?



Probably because there are very few noteworthy Americans with decent results/potential these days.


I'd love to see Scarlett/Major/Idra/Suppy play in this.

Although for Major/idra not against squirtle as both have shakey vps


you clearly forgot when idra clearly 2-0'd MC at the MLG when the koreans were first able to participate. yeah...that's definitely some shakey vp. the only reason idra lost 4-0 in extended was because of the MMA games...they tilted him, and you know idra, once he gets tilted he plays bad. if he didn't have that mindset problem, he would be better than stephano

MC was jetlagged badly. As soon as he took some Red Bull he 4-0ed him.


rofl...is that your excuse for idra completely outplaying MC? I suppose every time... say Stephano... beats a korean, like at the nasl3, the opponents were jet lagged... or when nerchio completely outplayed MC at hsc it was jet lag... yea good logic there slugger, swing and miss.

like I said, after idra saw the replay of mma killing his own CC, he went on tilt. every singly progamer out there agrees that if idra had a better attitude towards the losing, or in game when the opponent does something retarded, he would be top 1 foreigner and top 10 player in the world.

NT kid.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
July 30 2012 19:28 GMT
#31
On July 31 2012 04:22 s1ege wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 04:06 Poopi wrote:
On July 31 2012 03:53 s1ege wrote:
On July 31 2012 03:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:50 Takezou wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:44 Champloo wrote:
Why does IPL invite Illusion to everything they do?



Probably because there are very few noteworthy Americans with decent results/potential these days.


I'd love to see Scarlett/Major/Idra/Suppy play in this.

Although for Major/idra not against squirtle as both have shakey vps


you clearly forgot when idra clearly 2-0'd MC at the MLG when the koreans were first able to participate. yeah...that's definitely some shakey vp. the only reason idra lost 4-0 in extended was because of the MMA games...they tilted him, and you know idra, once he gets tilted he plays bad. if he didn't have that mindset problem, he would be better than stephano

MC was jetlagged badly. As soon as he took some Red Bull he 4-0ed him.


rofl...is that your excuse for idra completely outplaying MC? I suppose every time... say Stephano... beats a korean, like at the nasl3, the opponents were jet lagged... or when nerchio completely outplayed MC at hsc it was jet lag... yea good logic there slugger, swing and miss.

like I said, after idra saw the replay of mma killing his own CC, he went on tilt. every singly progamer out there agrees that if idra had a better attitude towards the losing, or in game when the opponent does something retarded, he would be top 1 foreigner and top 10 player in the world.

NT kid.

Did you ask to every single progamer?

Also MC's himself said "i was jet lagged against idra." stop it already.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
July 30 2012 19:28 GMT
#32
are you seriously arguing about something that happened a few years ago? There are always excuses for somebody playing. Hell you could argue that hero would be the best player of the universe if he didnt have those nerve issues. Things like that are part of the player and playing the "if" game is senseless
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
July 30 2012 19:28 GMT
#33
I'm glad IPL has started trying to invite foreigners again.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
IceFire
Profile Joined January 2011
United States183 Posts
July 30 2012 19:33 GMT
#34
On July 31 2012 04:22 s1ege wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 04:06 Poopi wrote:
On July 31 2012 03:53 s1ege wrote:
On July 31 2012 03:41 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:50 Takezou wrote:
On July 31 2012 02:44 Champloo wrote:
Why does IPL invite Illusion to everything they do?



Probably because there are very few noteworthy Americans with decent results/potential these days.


I'd love to see Scarlett/Major/Idra/Suppy play in this.

Although for Major/idra not against squirtle as both have shakey vps


you clearly forgot when idra clearly 2-0'd MC at the MLG when the koreans were first able to participate. yeah...that's definitely some shakey vp. the only reason idra lost 4-0 in extended was because of the MMA games...they tilted him, and you know idra, once he gets tilted he plays bad. if he didn't have that mindset problem, he would be better than stephano

MC was jetlagged badly. As soon as he took some Red Bull he 4-0ed him.


rofl...is that your excuse for idra completely outplaying MC? I suppose every time... say Stephano... beats a korean, like at the nasl3, the opponents were jet lagged... or when nerchio completely outplayed MC at hsc it was jet lag... yea good logic there slugger, swing and miss.

like I said, after idra saw the replay of mma killing his own CC, he went on tilt. every singly progamer out there agrees that if idra had a better attitude towards the losing, or in game when the opponent does something retarded, he would be top 1 foreigner and top 10 player in the world.

NT kid.


Not anymore. Yes his mindset is horrible and he would be a better player if he fixed that but he's not as good as he used to be. He had some of the best mechanics in the world but others have caught up now. He's always sucked in ZvP and he hasn't transitioned well to Infestor based play in ZvT. This is all coming fro man Idra fan. I hope that he can improve his play and mindset in the near future but right now he isn't doing too well.

Squirtle should win, but I feel like Illusion can take a couple games off him if he prepares and plays well.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
July 30 2012 19:33 GMT
#35
On July 31 2012 03:43 Disengaged wrote:
Needs more Taeja


he played already


5:2 squirtle
Mystgun
Profile Joined September 2010
Hong Kong311 Posts
July 30 2012 19:39 GMT
#36
I can't stand Squirtle's face, but I think he's got this
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
July 30 2012 19:43 GMT
#37
Why is illusion invited to this? He has like no achievements at all.
the game is the game
ClairvoyanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States758 Posts
July 30 2012 19:52 GMT
#38
Ah as much as I like illusion,
Squirtle 5-2 Illusion
Masvidal
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)213 Posts
July 30 2012 19:54 GMT
#39
The real question is whether or not illusion will be able to take a map, IMO. 5-1 will be a huge moral victory for a semipro like illusion.
"Teamliquid is a place for starcraft, not boobs." -autoexec
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 20:13:05
July 30 2012 20:07 GMT
#40
On July 31 2012 04:43 kusto wrote:
Why is illusion invited to this? He has like no achievements at all.


Illusion's a top level foreigner. He defeated Zenio, Ryung, Oz, and had a close series vs Creator at IPL4 (all Code S players). He took a game off HerO at IPL Hot Import Nights, and all 5 of his games against HerO and MMA were all very close, with Illusion actually ahead most of the time in the early game.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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