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MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
July 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#1101
Nani just has a hard time vs Zerg.
Lost to DRG at GSL. Lost to Sortof at Narcon, lost to Sortof again at WCS Sweden, of course you start getting frustrated.

Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#1102
Fraer has a Terran icon....
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
July 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#1103
JRecco won't get rolled by Major at all. Hyun faltered to the same Hellion play 3 times in a row, that was an incredible weak showcase by him.

And in almost all matches from JRecco that I've seen lately he played fantastic. But let's see how it turns out.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
luke3920
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom182 Posts
July 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#1104
On July 30 2012 04:51 LgNKane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 04:49 IdrA wrote:
On July 30 2012 04:48 Type|NarutO wrote:
I really don't want to break down a balance discussion but its here anyways. I hope no one takes it as offensive, but lots of Protoss pros are tweeting towards Naniwa backing him up. I really think its time to put Zergs in place, because the time is here that Zerg has learned how to abuse their abilities that much, that it gets too hard if not impossible to fight them on even ground.

I'm not saying you cannot win, but as it once was that it was a lot more effort to win against Terran, now it takes a lot more effort to beat Zerg than to actually win as Zerg. I hope Blizzard steps in before HOTS, but I fear they won't.

Nani shouldn't leave the way he did, as he is a professional yet I can fully understand him. Generally speaking even though we had a PvP final in GSL, you can see Zergs rising left and right... and thats just not about good play. Hopefully next series will be better.

he plays solely based on bad timings and then sits in the middle of the map for 2 minutes before actually attacking. when you play that bad you're supposed to lose.


ye that timing is an all in and jonny defended adequately. don't pretend like nani tried to play a standard macro game, he just all in'ed.


Jonny SCOUTED the all-in, so he SHOULD beat it...that's called balance...
Not write me more about balance, or next time i kick you ass
Eruism
Profile Joined December 2011
United States312 Posts
July 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#1105
all this protoss/zerg balance discussion is highly amusing.
PartinG MarineKing Mvp Polt Keen ByuN <3
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2623 Posts
July 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#1106
On July 30 2012 04:47 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 04:45 Noocta wrote:
Can someone explain me why every foreigner protoss complain so much about the match up ?
MC, Squirtle and stuff seems fine with it now. ~~

PvZ is largely dependant on the skill of the Protoss player imo. Therefore, if you're having trouble in the matchup, you're having trouble with most zerg players, instead of just the best ones, which makes the matchup seem imbalanced in lesser players minds.


And the skill of the Zerg player has nothing to do with the matchup, yeah right...

Nani didn't play good enough and deserved that loss. Maybe he didn't prepare enough or underestimated jonnyREcco, we won't know only that he blames imbalance for his mistakes.
That's how you can tell between a good player and a true Champion.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
July 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#1107
On July 30 2012 04:46 Duoma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 04:42 Derrida wrote:
ermm, why do casters try to sugarcoat a player's retarded comments? take some initiative ffs...

"naniwa says congrats!!!" yeah, i see what you did there...


I think you are confusing sugarcoating a comment with making a joke! No one wants to listen to casters who fuel the flames of drama.

On topic: Dat eyepatch.

Also great to see suich good stream numbers for ro32! Hope it only gets better. So well run so far(at least production side)

I don't know man, it was pretty awesome when superdanielman called out IdrA in that game against Tarson haha.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
July 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#1108
On July 30 2012 04:48 ZeaL. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 04:46 Vansetsu wrote:
On July 30 2012 04:44 Blardy wrote:
Starting to regret buying a TSL4 ticket if we have more people like recco.


People that play intelligently? Recco played very well, what's to regret?


Some people don't watch to watch good starcraft, they just watch to follow their favorite gamers.
See: Bisu fans.


I'm completely objective here since I don't really care who wins these games, but here's my opinion:
Upsets are nice, but if there are too many upsets it does hurt the scene.
Marketing starcraft to the outside world is easier if you have some big name players that are never gonna lose from lower skilled players just because they are better.
Sadly that happens way too often in Starcraft (not talking about the last match, talking in general).
Take tennis as an example, the better player always wins.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
July 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#1109
And that's why Starcraft 2 is somewhat dying. Very boring series for me, but I'm sure DJRecco is happy. Kinda glad Naniwa is out too. :D

Hopefully Major wins the whole thing though. I like him for some reason
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
July 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#1110
You're going down, you're going DOWN DOWN DOWN, you're going down...

Nah, just doesn't feel the same way.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
July 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#1111
On July 30 2012 04:51 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
JRecco won't get rolled by Major at all. Hyun faltered to the same Hellion play 3 times in a row, that was an incredible weak showcase by him.

And in almost all matches from JRecco that I've seen lately he played fantastic. But let's see how it turns out.

He will get rolled by MajOr.

expecting 3-0.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#1112
On July 30 2012 04:49 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 04:48 Type|NarutO wrote:
I really don't want to break down a balance discussion but its here anyways. I hope no one takes it as offensive, but lots of Protoss pros are tweeting towards Naniwa backing him up. I really think its time to put Zergs in place, because the time is here that Zerg has learned how to abuse their abilities that much, that it gets too hard if not impossible to fight them on even ground.

I'm not saying you cannot win, but as it once was that it was a lot more effort to win against Terran, now it takes a lot more effort to beat Zerg than to actually win as Zerg. I hope Blizzard steps in before HOTS, but I fear they won't.

Nani shouldn't leave the way he did, as he is a professional yet I can fully understand him. Generally speaking even though we had a PvP final in GSL, you can see Zergs rising left and right... and thats just not about good play. Hopefully next series will be better.

he plays solely based on bad timings and then sits in the middle of the map for 2 minutes before actually attacking. when you play that bad you're supposed to lose.

This, he missed his timing and instead of trying to recover from the failed timing by actually macroing and playing standard, he sat on 200/200 and up to 2000min for several minutes. Take a 4th and try to transition into a late game comp....
Get off my lawn, young punks
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
July 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#1113
On July 30 2012 04:48 ZeaL. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 04:46 Vansetsu wrote:
On July 30 2012 04:44 Blardy wrote:
Starting to regret buying a TSL4 ticket if we have more people like recco.


People that play intelligently? Recco played very well, what's to regret?


Some people don't watch to watch good starcraft, they just watch to follow their favorite gamers.
See: Bisu fans.


Oh no you didn't
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
July 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#1114
On July 30 2012 04:48 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 04:46 Vansetsu wrote:
On July 30 2012 04:44 Blardy wrote:
Starting to regret buying a TSL4 ticket if we have more people like recco.


People that play intelligently? Recco played very well, what's to regret?


I guess if playing intelligently is copying everything Stephano does then he did play intelligently.


Welcome to StarCraft 2 -- a competitive RTS where players often copy builds and styles from successful players. This legacy of building on the shoulders of giants goes back over 10 years. Your weird passive-aggressive tone is misplaced here -- rest assured, whoever your P, T or Z hero is, he got a lot of his chops by copying others.

Don't hate on JREcco for doing what it takes to win.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#1115
On July 30 2012 04:51 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Okay guys, come sit down with me for a second. You know that Twitch add you keep showing? The one that starts off with a really loud "ZOOOOT!"? Everyone who is paying for your premium stream is listening to absolute silence for the minute or two before the ZOOOOT. And then we shit our pants.

Seriously, maybe a little ramp-up into the Twitch ZOOOOT? I'm tired of missing the first five minutes of every game while I shower and find a fresh pair of undies.

Lol I know exactly what you're talking about.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
July 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#1116
IdrAs advise on how to play PvZ to whitera, laughable hehe.

Gooo Kas!
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
July 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#1117
On July 30 2012 04:52 Scorch wrote:
You're going down, you're going DOWN DOWN DOWN, you're going down...

Nah, just doesn't feel the same way.


Ha, red "Nani" instead of Nah for a second and already wanted to disagree^^
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
July 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#1118
Kind of underwhelming play of Nani. I've seen him play a lot better than this.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#1119
See. Now Naniwa looks really bad since he was featured in the TSL intro and now he's out.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Yannosh
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium93 Posts
July 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#1120
Zerg can play the same way every game and be OK. Protoss has to surprise, be super creative and have a great sense of timing in order to make a chance of victory... I'm a zerg player btw, good thing cuz I aint creative at all...
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